Posts by: SunBunny
Absolute Naturists arrow Nude in Seattle

SunBunny

Posted: Aug 7, 2014

Thanks for the topic/post Bill. Yes Seattle is a more liberal and hip city, but it is also th3e Northwest which tends to be more educated, liberal, earthy and hip. Maybe it is rain that keeps things fresh. This is why I choose to make it my home. We still have the loons and not everywhere is as open thinking as Seattle so don't run over here thinking you can act out.
Absolute Naturists arrow Recreational Use of Marijuana in Nudist Venues... Should it be acceptable?

SunBunny

Posted: Jul 29, 2014

Should the recreational use of marijuana be accepted in nudist venues? Your perspectives from both an owner and a user/member viewpoint please.
(For the sake of this discussion let's accept the premise that recreational use of MJ is legal.)
Absolute Naturists arrow Making Social Non-Sexual Nudity LEWD... Is it possible?

SunBunny

Posted: Jul 25, 2014

I don't think it is a paradox unless you take words out of context and interpret them within a personal bias. Even sexual nudity does not immediately imply lewdness, it is how it is interpreted. The question is about making Non-Sexual Nudity LEWD and how the scales can be manipulated for interpretation. An prime example, BLURRING breasts and genitalia on TV shows that tout nudity as normal and nothing to be ashamed of. The blurring instantly applies focus to those body areas and cast a lewd implication. To someone who refuses, based on their own bias and fears, to accept that social nudity as a normal part of life this only serves to confirm these attitudes as correct.
When I said think about it I was getting at not only the very explicit but the subtle messages both visually and spoken that do the damage. Again think about it, they are all over.
Thanks Bauhausnude for stepping up on the posted question, you make some good points.
Absolute Naturists arrow Making Social Non-Sexual Nudity LEWD... Is it possible?

SunBunny

Posted: Jul 20, 2014

How do you make social non-sexual nudity LEWD? Is it even possible and if so how is that communicated?
Think before you answer...
Absolute Naturists arrow A Burning Question About Social Nudity

SunBunny

Posted: Jul 19, 2014

If you had ONE Question About Social Nudity just burning a hole in your towel... what would it be? Go ahead and just blurt (er,write) it out.

It doesn't matter where you are in the spectrum or any type of correctness. This would be something you always wanted to ask anybody but just could not do it yet for whatever reason. This not about answering the questions, just asking.
Absolute Naturists arrow Dating Naked: Pro's, Con's, Comments, Rating.

SunBunny

Posted: Jul 18, 2014

About the TV Program Dating Naked, please offer your thoughts on the program and would you recommend the viewing of the program by nudists and/or non-nudists?
ALSO on a scale of 1(low) to 5(high)where would you rate this program as far as promoting social nudism?
Absolute Naturists arrow Naked & Afraid: Pro's, Con's, Comments

SunBunny

Posted: Jul 18, 2014

About the TV Program Naked & Afraid, please offer your thoughts on the program and would you recommend the viewing of the program by nudists and/or non-nudists?
Absolute Naturists arrow Has anyone watched the TV program on buying nude homes?

SunBunny

Posted: Jul 16, 2014

How about one of you two starting another thread (Topic) about the naked dating program. That way members of our group can comment specifically on that show. This one is about Buying Homes so let's leave it that way.
Absolute Naturists arrow Has anyone watched the TV program on buying nude homes?

SunBunny

Posted: Jul 16, 2014

I watched the end of a show the other day (the one where Jackie says she makes things happen) since I couldn't find anything else worth watching. My take... As I said before I wish the program would go away... it is totally stupid and a big misrepresentation of nudism. I still want to see a program called Buck Naked Dynasty... where naked people are in charge. Now that would be entertaining.
Absolute Naturists arrow Most Fun Way to Celebrate the 4th Of July Nude

SunBunny

Posted: Jul 2, 2014

What do you think is the MOST Fun way to celebrate the 4th of July when you are nude? Go for it!
Absolute Naturists arrow Trying to get your wife/husband to join in....?

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 29, 2014

"She made her own decision on her own time without pressure." Now that is one of the MOST intelligent things I have heard regarding getting a wife/partner to enter nudism. Thank you FullSun. Guys, if you put her mindset before yours you may reach the goal of both of you enjoying social nudity rather than one enjoying it and the other tolerating it. Think about it anyway.
Absolute Naturists arrow Nudist Venues: How wide should the welcome doors be opened?

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 3, 2014

At nudist resorts, how wide should they open the welcome doors when it comes to first timers and potential new members?
On the surface there would seem to be a simple answer... VERY WIDE. However do they not have to respect current members privacy and be consistent in enforcing their club policies which could be viewed as unfriendly. What are your thoughts?
Absolute Naturists arrow Nudist at Heart... What does than phrase mean?

SunBunny

Posted: May 27, 2014

"I am a 'nudist at heart'." When you hear that phrase, what do you think it means and how do you respond?
Absolute Naturists arrow What has been the effect of the Internet on Social Nudity?

SunBunny

Posted: May 14, 2014

yeah, I thought the head size didn't match the body size also. That's what I was talking about but you know what, NudeRunner, you are the only one to mention it.
When you live in a nudist environment all the time you tend to lose you naivety about who is a nudist and who is there for other purposes. Call it 'Nudar' if you like. It's the same sense as 'gaydar' in the gay world. I think there are a number of people on NCH that should not be here. I guess what I am saying is that my 'nudar' is beeping like a smoke alarm over a pan of frying bacon. The internet has opened the door for this to occur and that we cannot mitigate. However I do believe it is our responsibility to smoke out the rats if we sincerely want to maintain the credibility of social nudity in forums like NCH.
Absolute Naturists arrow What is the purpose of forums like NCH, really?

SunBunny

Posted: May 14, 2014

In your own opinion, what is the real purpose of forums like NCH?
Texas Nudists and Resorts arrow Any New Info on Texas Nudist Venues?

SunBunny

Posted: May 10, 2014

Here is a little update on Natures Resort down in the Rio Grande Valley. This past winter there were several weeks that it was TOTALLY FULL. Two years ago or so the ownership added 80+ sites. They have all been snapped up. There are pull thru's and rooms available for rent. Since most of the Winter Texans have left for the summer it should be nice and quiet. This past winter was full of activities. If you have not visited Natures Resort now is a good time to do so. It is a Nude resort, not Clothing Optional so plan on enjoying the sun all over while you are there.
Texas Nudists and Resorts arrow Any New Info on Texas Nudist Venues?

SunBunny

Posted: May 9, 2014

I was wondering if there is any new info out there among y'all on any Teas nudist venues or areas? Chime in if you can... people are curious to know.
NorthWest Outdoor Nudists arrow Nothwest Nudists vs. NorthWest Outdoor Nudist

SunBunny

Posted: May 9, 2014

Do we really need two groups? Tell us your thoughts.
Northwest Nudists arrow When does Nude Season start in the NW?

SunBunny

Posted: May 9, 2014

Maybe I posed the topic question wrong. I should have dropped the 'When' and just stated "Does Nude Season ever start...'. Just a thought, am I wrong?
Northwest Nudists arrow Is the NW really Nudist Land?

SunBunny

Posted: May 9, 2014

Well here we are in May and it is still cold and rainy. Even the thought of being nude outdoors makes me shiver. You have to be NUTS to want to lay out and try to get some sun in this crappy weather. Am I wrong?
Absolute Naturists arrow Journal Entries... What is the point?

SunBunny

Posted: May 9, 2014

Journal Entries, what is the point?
I have been puzzled by this here on NCH since once upon a time a journal is where you wrote personal notes about things that are going on in your life or issues/facts that occurred so that you may want to recall those things at a later time in your life. It was your stuff, not the everybody's stuff. Ok call me old fashion. I believe this was added to NCH because of the quest to be like Facebook, be cool and hip, and quench the desire for people to share their life with the world especially when they don't have a life. Dumb, just dumb. In addition isn't this very arrogant? Why in the world would I be interested in what someone who I do not know is thinking. Am I that voyeuristic, not even. My life doesn't revolve around those who feel the need to publicly journal about themselves. Oh, maybe I just stumbled upon the answer, it is not about me, it is about you. Again how arrogant. So what makes a person think they need to share themselves with me or anybody else? I am puzzled. Anybody have any thoughts on this?
Absolute Naturists arrow What has been the effect of the Internet on Social Nudity?

SunBunny

Posted: May 9, 2014

As I said before... good and BAD.
I recently got a friend request from a fellow on NCH that goes under the name DeafNudeGuy. Check him out. He is CREEPY in my view. Not only do I believe his primary pic to be Photoshoped in the facial area and his pose to be lewd since he might as well be saying look at this, but he has only asked females for NCH friendship. Now this is the type of thing that possibly sends women in the opposite direction and give social nudity a black eye. I think he is only interested in seeing nude pics of these women and unfortunately they have fallen for it. WTF, are these women stupid or do they honestly believe he is upstanding nudist they want to be friends with this chump. Needless to say I am not interested in being in a creeps stable and I dumped his request to be friends immediately. I wish the women who did accept his friendship would delete it as well and maybe he would go somewhere else and maybe, just maybe go back to his regular porno sites. Am I being harsh, maybe but I think he is a creep and I have no problem saying it. He is bad for social nudity and the internet has opened the door for him to come and check out (or whatever) our precious few nudist women who embrace social nudity.
Absolute Naturists arrow Too many Groups

SunBunny

Posted: May 9, 2014

Same here FireProf with Northwest Nudists and Northwest Outdoor Nudists. I asked to start the outdoor group only because the then owner of Northwest Nudists rarely signed in and never contributed any topics. Also he was not willing or interested enough to let it go to someone else. So out of frustration I started the other group. Hence it must of rang his bell and he vocalized the thought of letting it go, tada! That is when I took it over. The logical thing to do would have been to merge the two groups under one banner. I believe I did ask the ownership to do this way back when and nothing happened. Now essentially both groups are dead even with me posting topics and taunting people to contribute. Why, I dunno but maybe the two group thing is confusing or maybe Nor'westers are more interested in keeping warm and dry than contributing to NCH. Who knows but one thing for sure, if they were both removed from NCH I don't think anybody would even notice and it would not hurt my feelings one little bit.
Absolute Naturists arrow Too many Groups

SunBunny

Posted: May 7, 2014

Surely you are not speaking of Absolute Naturists. We, FireProf and myself think it is important to stay active in the groups we manage. Absolute Naturist is one of the most active and best of all groups. Tell a friend.
Absolute Naturists arrow New landed club in Orlando???

SunBunny

Posted: May 5, 2014

Yep, way to far for me also...
Thanks for the informational post GatorDude. It is always a good thing to share information here on AN with all our members. After all that is what this is for. If you ever here about something that would potentially be of interest to our members please don't be afraid to start a topic/post.
Absolute Naturists arrow What has been the effect of the Internet on Social Nudity?

SunBunny

Posted: Apr 28, 2014

To me it has been good and bad.
First the good. I agree that the internet has opened up the world of social nudity and educated some in the process. It has provided information for those seeking greater exploration within the confines of their homes. It has provided greater avenues for marketing of venues and clubs. It has provided communication channels like NCH to exchange information and thoughts. It has provided sneak peeks into the world of social nudity. All good. Amazingly, it has not captured growing memberships to national organizations. Perhaps it has eliminated the thought that you need to belong to a national organization to gain acceptance to venues and activities. The simple fact is, you do not have to have any nudist credentials to join either AANR or TNS. This fact has been exposed by the internet with the ability to join online.
The bad as I see it. The rustic nudist campgrounds tucked away in the woods have been opened up to the world and exposed. The safety that some sought and felt in these enclaves has been eliminated. All venues and beaches have provided roadmaps for looky loos and predators to follow with their cameras or other motives. The ability to link porn, sexual and gay sites with honest and true nudist/naturist site has misconstrued social and healthy social nudity. It has scared off females by providing over zealous males connections to them. An example, My husband has had his NCH profile viewed 4,831 times. My NCH profile has been viewed 69,883 times. I am relatively sure these 69,883 views were NOT from nudists. Is there a message here, yes and it is not good in my opinion.
So here we go, yes and no....good and bad. I am not a fan of the internet in social nudity outside of email.

Absolute Naturists arrow What has been the effect of the Internet on Social Nudity?

SunBunny

Posted: Apr 24, 2014

What has been the effect of the internet on Social Nudity? Simple question really but I do believe there have been dramatic impacts that have resulted, both good and bad. Think about it in terms of the original rustic campgrounds and tucked away resorts of yesteryear as compared to today. All thoughts are good, let us know what you think. I will share mine later. Thanks.
Absolute Naturists arrow Top 3 Things to do nude at a Nudist venue

SunBunny

Posted: Apr 20, 2014

What do you think would be the Top 3 things most people would enjoy doing at a nudist venue? Go ahead...think out loud and share.
Absolute Naturists arrow New to Nude Living

SunBunny

Posted: Apr 20, 2014

For those folks who are new or somewhat new to social nudity and the concept of nude living, please share your thoughts on how you foresee social nudity and living nude playing out in your life. What brought you to this way of thinking and wanting.
We appreciate anything you have to say and welcome to a special way of living
Absolute Naturists arrow What do you consider a 'sexually provocative' image/picture?

SunBunny

Posted: Apr 14, 2014

As I have thought about this more and read your comments, seems to me there is a fine line between sexually provocative and sexually alluring. In either case they both can lead your mind to wander in sexually charged ways. It also promotes the common belief that nudist sites/venues are sexual. It can also lead to the point made that older women would most likely shy away from social nudity because of what the images say about it. For instance, check out the ABOUT NCH under Home on this site. I find the picture of the lady holding the computer mouse to be sexually alluring even if it is above the chest. Why, sex sells. If you had a fat old guy holding a mouse, would you buy it? If you add the sample of the profile pic of a woman just under that, well shucks just break out your wallets guys because you are going to a site full of hot chicks. Is this sexually provocative or alluring... in a way yes as I see it. It really does not need to be all T&A to be provocative. I know this post was not about nudist marketing but my point is that provocative or alluring is in the mind of the beholder... and will always be.
Absolute Naturists arrow What do you consider a 'sexually provocative' image/picture?

SunBunny

Posted: Apr 13, 2014

What do you consider to be a sexually provocative image or picture when it comes to social nudity networking sites? In gender terms, which do you think is more prevalent?
Absolute Naturists arrow Bucket List: What would you like to do nude before you check out?

SunBunny

Posted: Apr 13, 2014

On your 'Bucket List' what would you like to do nude before you check out? Go for it and none of that legal BS please, thanks.

(NudeRunner, thanks for the topic idea, SB.)
Absolute Naturists arrow What impact or effects do COG's and OG's have on social nudity?

SunBunny

Posted: Apr 13, 2014

What impact or effect do COG's and OG's have on social nudity? Also, at what point does an OG step over the line and become a COG?
Your thoughts please.

Definition
OG - Old Guy
COG - Creepy Old Guy
Absolute Naturists arrow Are 'Nudist' Social Networking Sites Good or Bad?

SunBunny

Posted: Apr 13, 2014

Are Nudist Social Networking Sites (like NCH) good or bad for the advancement of social nudity? Your thoughts?
Absolute Naturists arrow Social Nudity - A Lifestyle or A Cause?

SunBunny

Posted: Apr 9, 2014

I think I felt a finger wagging at me... hmmm. I think riding horses is a little different. As they say in HI... 'whatevas'. Anyway, anybody else have anything to say?
Absolute Naturists arrow What is of interest to you?

SunBunny

Posted: Apr 8, 2014

We have covered many topics and had many interesting discussions here in Absolute Naturist group over the past. Now my question to all AN group members is... What is of interest to you for new topics/discussions? The plate is clear and wide open so lets hear your ideas and thoughts. Don't be shy... it's go time!
Nudist News arrow Casting Call for Nudists

SunBunny

Posted: Apr 6, 2014

well just go's to show how far out of the loop I am...anyway, I hope they produce a better show than that stupid "Buying Nude" Florida based program.
Thanks for the update CO. Hey, I think you should be the Co-host.
Nudist News arrow Casting Call for Nudists

SunBunny

Posted: Apr 5, 2014

Just heard about this, don't know much detail other than what is provided. If you are interested check it out further, your decision.

RE: Travel and Outdoor shows:

My name is Bryan Berlin and I'm at a reality TV casting and development company in New York City. We are always on the lookout for new ideas and interesting characters.
Right now we are working with a TV network that does a collection of travel and outdoors shows, to find a couple ages 30-45 to host a nudist travel show. Basically, we want a couple with big personalities to travel the country and show us the nudist destinations of America, whether it's a resort, ranch, park, or anything else.
You seem like you may have a good idea of people who would fit this search so I thought it was worth reaching out. Please pass along my info to anyone who may fit, or get back to me if you want to talk more.
Thanks,
Bryan - bberlin@crybaby-media.com
Absolute Naturists arrow Nudism & Privacy Rights

SunBunny

Posted: Apr 5, 2014

I not sure what one has to do with the other...unless you want to characterize nudism as a privacy right versus a way of living.
By throwing them both together you force the question of legality in just living nude, not offending or hurting anyone, but just living nude.
Because I choose to live nude has nothing to do with my right to privacy. How you protect your privacy on whatever level is your responsibility. Because you are a nudist does not give the world carte blanch to know all the details about your life... let's get real.

Appreciate the post Brau. It's a thought provoking one. Let hear some thoughts!
Absolute Naturists arrow Social Nudity - A Lifestyle or A Cause?

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 29, 2014

Ya know... when I ventured into nudity as a way of living, I didn't do it as a cause...I did it because I LIKED IT and I saw nothing objectionable to the naturalness of it. I didn't need to define and research it. I just did it because it felt good to me. I marched for other causes in my younger days but never social nudity. I just didn't see it as a cause and still don't. I think that is what a lot of the younger generation is saying about it.
Absolute Naturists arrow Are National Nude/Naturist Organizations still relevant?

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 29, 2014

Declining numbers..... seems to me that speaks to the exact point of relevancy. Is that saying that if people see organizations such as these as important and necessary to them they would continue to join and support them. I could not agree more that there has barely been a "whimper" of challenge equal to lip service on recent attacks on clothes free beaches and lands. There is power in numbers and when numbers are in the decline so is the power. Frankly if they discontinued their existence today, I seriously doubt the nudist/naturist community would be much changed or different.
NorthWest Outdoor Nudists arrow Are you a "Trailer" Nudist?

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 26, 2014

Are you a "trailer" nudist? COOL... it is probably a good way to enjoy the NW and all it's beautiful scenery au naturel. Can you share a good story... please do. Thanks!
Northwest Nudists arrow When does Nude Season start in the NW?

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 26, 2014

It has started for LARC already...
If you have never been to LARC in Mount Vernon, WA you really should make it part of this seasons calendar to go. It is more of a weekend type thing so unless you like extreme serenity and talking with the chipmunks that would be the time to go. Get off work on Friday and head there for the Friday Evening Wine & Cheese Meet & Greet. It's fun and super cool people.
Absolute Naturists arrow Are National Nude/Naturist Organizations still relevant?

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 26, 2014

As times have changed and the information world is at your finger tips, are the national organizations (AANR & TNS) still relevant and necessary for nudists/naturists? Your thoughts please.
Absolute Naturists arrow I am NOT a nudist....

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 26, 2014

"nudism is my way of life but not my life"... Wow! Exactly my point. I think sometimes people, especially newbies, get caught up in the whirlwind of labels. Quit pounding the chest and just be yourself.
In the winter I live in a Nude Only venue/community. At first there was much consternation about people who were not nude all the time. Now, it has become more relaxed with a live as you want knowing you are free to be nude whenever you like. Is it "nude Only" or "clothing optional", who cares... it is accepting the naturalness of being human without stigmas or judgment. We get it without having to prove or speak it every day. When you get down to it, isn't that the message we are hoping the everybody will finally figure out as a good thing. I think so...
Nudists in Business arrow Art Shows in nudist venues... why does it only include nude depiction?

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 25, 2014

Why do art shows at nudist venues always and only have to (by jury) include nude depictions in the art? Do nudists only enjoy and want to view nude people in art? Any thoughts?

As an artist, marketing and selling my art at a variety of shows is part of the biz. To be pigeon holed like this seems counterproductive to the support of artists who are nudists.
Nudists in Business arrow Concert in the Buff

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 25, 2014

hmmmm, is that a PC way of saying 'lost in space' or 'out to lunch'... just wondering.
I think if you are posting something for input, comment or thought, the post should be logically made. Just a random brain dump is just dumb and a waste of time for people who have something between their ears. Sorry if I hurt some feelings but C'mon... geez dude. Tarzan, read some of my topic posts in Absolute Naturist for some examples of what I m talking about.
Absolute Naturists arrow I am NOT a nudist....

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 25, 2014

but I enjoy living and being nude whenever I like. Is that a problem in the nudist/naturist community? Do I have to be a part of the heard to enjoy and accepted in my preference to be nude.

This is all about the labels and hierarchies we often place on people who are around the nudist/naturist community. We have "nude only" and "clothing optional" clubs and resorts. We have "home" nudists and so forth and so forth...yada yada yada. What is the point.. really? Your thoughts please.
ASA Days arrow BAJA CALIFORNIA

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 20, 2014

Don't forget the towel.....
Nudists in Business arrow Concert in the Buff

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 20, 2014

I guess I missed whatever your point was Tarzan BUT every year in July LARC in Mount Vernon WA has a RockN'The Park Concert with great bands, food, Beverages, vendors, and it's as nude as you want to be. Folks even come from around the area who are not "nudists" but dig a Woodstock type freedom event. The model that has been developed would be easy for a promoter to replicate and shop it around. Maybe this is what you were getting at.
Absolute Naturists arrow How Open Are You About Being an Absolute Naturist?

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 17, 2014

Jag,
If you think this site is so stagnant why don't you add some topics that you think would open up the conversation? I would welcome it.
As far as the topic...

Well I do keep hearing the regular stuff like I don't have the guts or my work or other lame excuses with the feeling like there is something terribly wrong with enjoying nudity. Why do you have to label yourself a nudist to be one. Why do you have to put a stigma on it. Why do you have to make something bad about it in your own mind. As long as you are not hurting anybody or breaking a law, why should you fear what others may think. Really folks... get a life and live your life.
Texas Nudists and Resorts arrow South Padre Island

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 7, 2014

Cool... looking forward to seeing you at Natures. I hope you play water volleyball. Folks here can provide you with info about camping at So Padre.
Texas Nudists and Resorts arrow Is there more Nudists in Texas?

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 7, 2014

Do you think there are more nudists in Texas than any other state in the US?
Please explain your answer.... thanks!
Northwest Nudists arrow When does Nude Season start in the NW?

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 7, 2014

In your opinion, when does nude season start again in the NW? I am talking about social type thing, not just at home. Your thoughts?
Northwest Nudists arrow Issues With NCH Since My Return

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 1, 2014

This issue has been brought up to the site ownership. Moderators have no say in what gets posted be it pictures or between the lines messages. Instead of just talking about it I would encourage you to report it to the ownership.
I do have to say, this is the Internet and everything you have said happens. Maybe you should post a topic about defining the lines between nudism and sex rather than just complaining. Think about it anyway.
Absolute Naturists arrow Social Nudity - A Lifestyle or A Cause?

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 1, 2014

Being from the 60's, I marched for a lot of civil rights issues, stop the war issues, farm worker causes and so forth. It is hard for me to step back from a cause orientation to a just enjoy orientation. Is it a lifestyle for me, yes. Is it a lifestyle that I must practice within accepting confines, yes. Is it a lifestyle that could be easily taken away, yes. I think it has to be a cause just as a civil right cause. I will continue to advocate for it so that those behind me can maybe someday just enjoy it as a lifestyle without fear of repercussion. Until then, well...

I posted this because of an article I read (N Magazine) indicating a significant difference in schools of thought on this subject between the older gen and the younger gen. It made sense and I have heard the argument or frustration by some of you older gens that the young folks are not willing to continue the fight for the right to enjoy social nudity or help out at your clubs... they just want to enjoy it, simple as that. I get it, didn't we (older gens) provide that for them.
Absolute Naturists arrow Trying to get your wife/husband to join in....?

SunBunny

Posted: Feb 27, 2014

In most cases, from my experiences and conversations, most guys want their wife to just go to a nude resort from their point of view... try it you'll like it. If a wife is reluctant, I think it is always best to openly and honest discuss why she is reluctant. This is more than "I don't want to" conversation. If she can honestly articulate her reservations, then that is the place to begin working on minimizing those concerns. Body issues are usually at the top of female concerns from what I have seen. Anyway, work with her and work on it as a team. Remember, if momma is not happy nobody is happy. If you get pushy, she will go in the opposite direction. best wishes.
Absolute Naturists arrow Social Nudity - A Lifestyle or A Cause?

SunBunny

Posted: Feb 27, 2014

From your viewpoint, do you regard social nudity more as a "lifestyle" or a "cause"?
Absolute Naturists arrow Has anyone watched the TV program on buying nude homes?

SunBunny

Posted: Feb 14, 2014

I wish the program would go away... it is totally stupid. You would think that all nudists like to do is entertain. Buying Swinging Homes in Florida would have been a better name. Voyeurism at it's best is all I have to say.
I still want to see a program called Buck Naked Dynasty... where naked people are in charge.
Absolute Naturists arrow You are a nudist.... and nobody cares.

SunBunny

Posted: Feb 14, 2014

You are a nudist/naturist... so what, nobody cares.

If you eliminate all the drama surrounding social nudity, be it your own, the media, the laws or others, is it necessary or important to label yourself a nudist/naturist? Is the thrill gone? How does life change?
Absolute Naturists arrow Shaving... who talks about it most: men or women?

SunBunny

Posted: Jan 20, 2014

ok, the data has spoken and the tally is done... and the answer is men, duh... big surprise huh.
Yes I wanted to bring it out to make a given point but the real question I hope some of you may ask yourselves is what does shaving have to do with social nudity. I don't care what you shave or don't shave... what does it have to do with social nudity. Are you feeling my drift.
Appreciate the responses. Let's talk about other things. There are lots of topics in this group, pick one out and tell us how you feel about it. I'm listening....
Texas Nudists and Resorts arrow What do you wear to a Nudist Hoe Down party?

SunBunny

Posted: Jan 15, 2014

Cowboy Hat and BBQ sauce... yep, that's it! Yehaaaa!!!
Absolute Naturists arrow Shaving... who talks about it most: men or women?

SunBunny

Posted: Jan 13, 2014

Yes I started it... so what. Don't make anything out of that fellas. It is what moderators do and what I have always done, start edgy topics. We have so many topics on this group yet look at which one is next in line as being responded to... guys shaving their body. All you have to do is look at the history of threads and you will quickly see how many I or any other women have actively responded, very few if ANY. I don't care if you guys shave you junk but WHY do I have to hear about it over and over and in detail. Why is this subject so important to you guys? I would have to guess that there is a sexual attachment to it. The question, Shaving, who Talks about it most... look who has responded so far...MEN!
NorthWest Outdoor Nudists arrow Nudity... Better indoors or outdoors... hmmmm

SunBunny

Posted: Jan 12, 2014

Is the enjoyment of personal or social nudity better indoors or outdoors? Let's talk...
Absolute Naturists arrow Shaving... who talks about it most: men or women?

SunBunny

Posted: Jan 12, 2014

The subject of shaving seems to enter online nudist based conversations frequently. But is it men or women who instigate or start these conversations? What do you think and why do you think this is?
Texas Nudists and Resorts arrow What do you wear to a Nudist Hoe Down party?

SunBunny

Posted: Jan 12, 2014

What do you think would be fun for nudists to wear to a good ol' Texas Hoe Down party?
Northwest Nudists arrow Most Fun Games to play at a Nudist Party

SunBunny

Posted: Jan 12, 2014

What do you think are some of the most fun games to play at a indoor nudist party? Tell us about any experiences you have had playing these games.
Absolute Naturists arrow New Year Plans... Do you have any?

SunBunny

Posted: Dec 29, 2013

Well 2014 is just around the corner from the date of this posting. Do you have any plans or changes you are thinking of making regarding further extending yourself towards being an Absolute Naturist? Anybody going to live nude in 2014? Tell us your thoughts.
Absolute Naturists arrow Has anyone watched the TV program on buying nude homes?

SunBunny

Posted: Dec 21, 2013

I was just having fun with the name given all the junk going on about Duck Dynasty. Could be any name and I am sure there would be those who would want to see the sex thing but it would be a good place to have patio discussions with non-nudists about nudism and bust/dismiss all the misunderstanding, rumors, beliefs and Myths. For that matter there could even be discussion with nudist on all the topics we have chatted about here. We are not all the same in our thinking. Women and men together talking about things, interacting at patio parties, talking about kids... I think it could be done, could be made very interesting and not just stupid like most of the reality programs. Think about it...
Texas Nudists and Resorts arrow Topless in Texas.

SunBunny

Posted: Dec 20, 2013

I just heard another report that it is legal for women to be topless anywhere in Texas as long as it is not involving lewd acts? You know like taking of your t-shirt on a hot day while doing yard work. Guys do it all the time. Anybody heard anything new on this?
NorthWest Outdoor Nudists arrow Favorite Things to do Nude in the Winter

SunBunny

Posted: Dec 20, 2013

I guess we might have to wait until the spring thaw to get some answers....

My favorite thing to do is to get the H out of the Northwest and go somewhere warm. Anybody else maybe vacation somewhere in the winter? brrrrrr
Absolute Naturists arrow Has anyone watched the TV program on buying nude homes?

SunBunny

Posted: Dec 20, 2013

I stopped short of saying that but I think you are right. Why else show the names of the resorts. maybe they paid to get the two episodes produced and aired. I still think it was boring, I liked Buying Alaska better, at least there were stinky real outhouses and beautiful scenery.
I think Living Nude could be a good basis for a TV reality show. Maybe Buck Naked Dynasty could be a good name for it.
NorthWest Outdoor Nudists arrow Favorite Things to do Nude in the Winter

SunBunny

Posted: Dec 19, 2013

What are your favorite things to do nude here in the NorthWest winter?
Absolute Naturists arrow Has anyone watched the TV program on buying nude homes?

SunBunny

Posted: Dec 19, 2013

I finally watched the two episodes of Buying Naked. While I thought it was nice to see nude living portrayed in non-sensational manner I found it very very very boring. All Florida, Caliente & Paradise Lakes, and $500,000 plus houses. If you want to live in a nude community you can do it for a lot less than that, enjoy it as much and be around great real people. It just had a swingy feeling to me also.
I know of a couple of homes in So TX that can be bought on leased lots for around $50,000. They even come with a great bonus... me as your neighbor. ok, enough...
Absolute Naturists arrow Living Nude... What's so great about it?

SunBunny

Posted: Dec 11, 2013

In your opinion, what is so great about living nude -or- what's the big deal with it?
Texas Nudists and Resorts arrow What Do Nudists Wear to a Texas BBQ?

SunBunny

Posted: Nov 21, 2013

BBQ sauce and a cowboy hat. Anything more than that would be just plain wrong.
Texas Nudists and Resorts arrow Nude Living in Texas...Can it be?

SunBunny

Posted: Nov 21, 2013

Wow, I guess TxBiker and I are the only ones that live nude in Texas. That's cool!
Absolute Naturists arrow What is the difference between a nudist and a naked person?

SunBunny

Posted: Nov 21, 2013

The mental processing of Body Image and Body Shame are the two things that that make the difference between Nudists and Non-Nudists. I made the assumption that you meant Non-Nudist when you said naked person. As a nudist, I never consider myself naked. I prefer to live without clothes, it's that simple and no need to categorize it. It is what it is.
Absolute Naturists arrow Where was your favorite resort you stayed at? Your most unfavorite?

SunBunny

Posted: Nov 21, 2013

Favorite: Hidden Beach in Mexico...No Doubts. It is definitely a Resort with all the fringes. High end but worth it.
Next Favorite: Natures Resort in So Texas. Great People, Great Ownership, Great Activities, Great Suntans all winter and that is why I live there in the winter months. Plus, it is a NUDE only resort/community. Live NUDE, Live STRONG!

Worst (not so favorite) Resort: Lupin in the San Fran Bay area. Just old and run down. Maybe once upon a time it was good but no longer. I will not ever go there again. Once was enough for me.
NorthWest Outdoor Nudists arrow Nude by the campfire, how does it warm you?

SunBunny

Posted: Oct 24, 2013

Being nude by a campfire on a chilly evening, how does it warm you? Tell us a story about an experience.
Texas Nudists and Resorts arrow Nude Living in Texas...Can it be?

SunBunny

Posted: Oct 24, 2013

What are your thoughts or experiences for living nude in Texas? Are Texans more open to it?
Absolute Naturists arrow Are nudists making progress?

SunBunny

Posted: Oct 24, 2013

Are nudists making progress in our quest for social acceptance of nude living?
Tell us what you think? If you have read any articles or have some other information that sheds light on this topic, let us know also.
ASA Days arrow LINDA SHOCKLEY

SunBunny

Posted: Oct 24, 2013

Stories like this make me yearn for the simple days of nudist life. Thanks for all the wonderful stories Andy.
Northwest Nudists arrow Cool Nudes, are you one?

SunBunny

Posted: Oct 24, 2013

Are you a cool nudist? Tell us what that means to you.
Northwest Nudists arrow Halloween Party at LARC

SunBunny

Posted: Oct 14, 2013

All PNW Nudists invited. Saturday, Oct.26,2013 will be a fun Halloween Party Dance at LARC in Mount Vernon, WA. It will start around 8pm. Wear your favorite Halloween costume or be as nude as you like. BYOB & Snacks to share.
Info at Larcnudists.com

This year I will be there! SB
Northwest Nudists arrow Torch has been Passed... Let's get on with it.

SunBunny

Posted: Oct 12, 2013

I am also looking for a co-moderator. I have a few people in mind but I rather hear from any of you who may be interested in helping me out. It's not a big job and can be interesting. I always make it a point to keep open lines of communication with my co-moderators. If you are interested please let me know. Thanks.
NorthWest Outdoor Nudists arrow Let's Move to the Northwest Nudists Group.

SunBunny

Posted: Oct 11, 2013

What do you think about everybody moving to the Northwest Nudists Group here on NCH? Since I am the new owner I was thinking that maybe we could consolidate into the one group. Let me know what you think?
Northwest Nudists arrow It's getting cold, What is there to do nude indoors?

SunBunny

Posted: Oct 11, 2013

It's getting cold here in the PNW, What is there to do nude indoors? Any suggestions.
Northwest Nudists arrow Torch has been Passed... Let's get on with it.

SunBunny

Posted: Oct 11, 2013

Yes, Let's get on with it. What is on your mind regarding social nudity here in the PNW? Any activities going on that you know of? Let's hear from all of you, thanks!

Absolute Naturists arrow How Comfortable Are You Being the Only Nude Person?

SunBunny

Posted: Oct 7, 2013

I am very comfortable being the only nude person in a grouping. Actually it is kind of empowering. When this occurs it is usually on my turf and I don't need permissions. If they are uncomfortable it is their problem. I live in a nudist community. I also live openly nude within my domains. I don't hide that fact.
I understand the situation you were in when you asked for permission, but in many ways I think you are saying that it is wrong if nothing more than in your own head. I think there is a time and place for everything and you should always let good common sense be the guiding factor. If you don't you may just be viewed as the kook running around naked which does nothing for the idealism of social nudity.
Northwest Nudists arrow Passing the torch

SunBunny

Posted: Oct 7, 2013

Well I sent a request to the NCH admin on the 3rd and nothing has happened as of today. I don't know what the issue is and I am a little dissappointed with the lack og response. Oh Well.

Tolk, if you check in, as the still current owner you have the option within the groups membership to make this happen. Just pull you profile and mine and you will see the button. It is available only to the group owner. This is how you do it.

Until then.... it is a wait and see but my clock is running out.
SB
Texas Nudists and Resorts arrow Emerald Lakes in Porter Texas

SunBunny

Posted: Oct 3, 2013

RGPilot,
Can you please keep us all posted on any new developments.... appreciate it.
Northwest Nudists arrow Passing the torch

SunBunny

Posted: Oct 3, 2013

Thankyou tolkienfan86 for your time and efforts in overseeing this group. I will accept ownership of this group. I will communicate this with the NCH ownership very soon.

In the meantime I will be formulating a new direction for this group, seeking a new co-moderator and even possibly combining Northwest Outdoor Nudists with this group. If any one has some suggestions or ideas for the direction of the group or desired topics please make a post here with your thoughts. Keep watching and reading for new developments.
SunBunny
Absolute Naturists arrow Is social or public non-sexual nudity really a "vice"?

SunBunny

Posted: Oct 3, 2013

Is social or public non-sexual nudity really a vice?

By making social/public non-sexual nudity illegal society has made it a vice. It invites misbehavior and lewdity. It invites illegal activity. By definition it puts it in the same definable terms as (Bing Dictionary: "prostitution, gambling, and drugs: criminal activity connected with prostitution and other sexual offenses, gambling, and illegal drugs". If you think about this, it makes us all criminals.
Does this make any logical sense? Is social or public non-sexual nudity a vice? Your thoughts please.
Absolute Naturists arrow Why should non-sexual nudity ever be banned anywhere?

SunBunny

Posted: Oct 1, 2013

I don't think I am asking the wrong people. The intent of the question is to get nudists to think about the issue rather than just go along with the parade. If you think about it and come to logical answers you hopefully will be able to respond to loonie questions from those who don't understand or don't want to understand social nudity. I am pretty sure that it is our desire to make non-sexual social and public nudity acceptable anywhere and anytime. Any discussion amongst us to help us achieve this is good. Let's get on with the thinking...
SunBunny
Absolute Naturists arrow Why should non-sexual nudity ever be banned anywhere?

SunBunny

Posted: Oct 1, 2013

Why should the act of non-sexual based nudity ever be banned anywhere?

It is a simple question but one nudists/naturists seem to always be on the defensive about. Maybe it is time we turn this around. Think about the question and give me some good (and readably logical) answers. I don't want to hear the heard mentality "because it is against the law" or "it is morally not accepted" junk and gobbly gook. Give me some well thought out, lucid and clear reasons from YOUR perspective. Thanks.
Clothing Optional Bed & Breakfasts arrow Have any of you actually visited a Nudist B&B?

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 30, 2013

Have any of you on NCH actually visited a Nudist B&B? If yes, what are your thoughts? Would you do it again? Any input would be nice to hear, thanks.
Absolute Naturists arrow Is Genital Hair Back in Style?

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 30, 2013

To Be Haired OR Not To Be Haired... That is the question and frankly who cares. As I read it, it is the observation that has led to the question. That's ok. It is what we do on websites like this. Ok, everbody take a deep breath and let's move forward.
Absolute Naturists arrow Change of Heart.

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 11, 2013

The topic has to do with changes in your thinking because of THIS SITE, not experiences you have had. I appreciate what Detach has said but it is off topic. Can we get back to this topic. Thanks.
Absolute Naturists arrow Change of Heart.

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 11, 2013

I have had a BIG change of heart regarding "home nudists" and how they fit into the nudist or naturist equation.
Taking the time to read and think about the many different opinions and posed questions on Absolute Naturists and other groups here in NC help me realize that home nudists are doing what I am passionate about, Nude Living. To put them in a "not real nudist" box is unfair. The only slight variation might be if they are doing it only out of fear or some sort of sexual fantasy. I now see clearly that you don't have to go to clubs or beaches or even live in a nude community to enjoy social nudity. Doing what works for you and what is easiest for you is best no matter where or how it is. Being home nude, maybe enjoying the fresh air in your patio is a heck of a lot easier than traveling lotsa miles for a few hours of of expensive social nudity. I have done both, I think I have a good idea about that. Cheaper and easier is always better. Not that there is anything wrong with clubs and that type of social activity. They are just like a golf club or yacht club, you join them because you enjoy their type of activities and socializing with people who like the same things. It's all ok.

I have to admit...My cheese has been moved on "home nudists".
Absolute Naturists arrow What "bugs" you the most about social nudity?

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 11, 2013

Hi Deb and thanks sooooo much for jumping right in. I think you a spot on with both of your posts.

First, maybe a question to a reluctant spouse should be "If you were to go to a nudist venue, what type would you feel most comfortable at?". A question like that might open options for considerate begining discussions. A sexually charged atmosphere would be a big turnoff and definitely provide the wrong first impression of social nudity. These type of venues should bug every naturist/nudist.

Second, I agree that there is an unfair bias against singles at nude venues. It seems like venue owners find it easier just to eliminate the potential for offensive/predatory problems rather than just deal with the offenders. I also agree that those type of problems can come from both genders. It's a unfair bias worth being bugged about. (read FireProf's post of July 30 in the Change of Heart topic, it is a very good example)
Deb, Thanks again for jumping right in and I hope to hear much more from you soon.

Any other "Bugs" out there?
Absolute Naturists arrow Why do we have to make nude living so complicated?

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 9, 2013

So do the both of you think it would help a reluctant spouse understand naturism better or aid in in getting a mindset of making nude living less complicated for some?
I offered the suggestion because I think it would. It is an easy read. I also take my time to read it from cover to cover and enjoy the articles much more than I enjoy AANR's The Bulletin.
NorthWest Outdoor Nudists arrow Boating in the Northwest... simply beautiful.

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 9, 2013

We just returned from a 2 month boat trip to Desolation Sound, BC and the San Juan Islands. It is an absolutely beautiful experience. Nudity is not a big deal when you are out on the water, just be cool and natural. Kayaking nude is a fun time in the many beautiful coves and shorleine you can explore. If you have never done it, if you like the idea of being on a boat nude in a picuresque remote setting where it is just you and nature, you should try it. Charter a boat, hook up with friends or whatever. People come here from all over the world to experience it... and it is right here in our backyard.
Has anybody else done this?
Absolute Naturists arrow Why do we have to make nude living so complicated?

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 9, 2013

The Naturist Society publishes a superb magazine on a quarterly basis. It is named "N". If you join it is included with your membership -OR- you can purchase it via the websites store. If you have a copy around the house it is suitable for a coffee table (which we do) or simple reading oover morning coffee or at bedtime. I think if spouses read it on their own time and space they will easily begin to get the drift of naturism. It is not about the club nonsense like AANR. Has anybody read it? Can you add to my thinking on this....
Texas Nudists and Resorts arrow Emerald Lakes in Porter Texas

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 9, 2013

Thanks for the post HouTxNud.

I love the lake access and the sailing potential. However it looks for like a day type thing versus a nudist community like Natures Resort in the Rio Grande Valley. If you have an RV or trailer and you like camping it sound like a good thing. Not much on activities as I can see.
Anyone been there?
Absolute Naturists arrow Why do we have to make nude living so complicated?

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 7, 2013

"Simplfy our life"... In my opinion that should be the goal for all of us. Thanks for insightful post FireProf.

I just read an article in the recent issue of "N" magazine (Nude & Natural 32.3) titled Nudist Suburbia. It recapped some history nude living and making our homes more nude friendly. It also profiled how the clothes-free living experience was much more common among nudist than most of us think. It has made me rethink and be more understanding of the home nudist concept. In reality, I live nude as much as possible and really don't put much emphasis in the "recreation" form of social nudity. Actually I don't even think much about the fact of being nude, I just do what I do.
If you get a chance, read the article.

Absolute Naturists arrow KEEP CALM — IT’S ONLY A …

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 6, 2013

FireProf, it was not aimed at you. If you read a few of the others you should be able to figure it out....
Have I ever complimented a woman on her vagina... yes. Women use the slang words like others do at times to do this I think. I know, when stting around with some girlfriends, I and others have said things like "you have such a cute little pussy" or "I wish I had bigger lips like yours", things to that effect. Just like men, they are all different and sure we look, we are human like anybody else. Your right FireProf, women are probably more prone to offering compliments as well as receiving them but it is not exclusive to women only. Here again, that is not what we are talking about in this topic thread. I guess I have clouded that a bit and I apoligize for that but discussion is always good. Shall we continue...
Absolute Naturists arrow Why do we have to make nude living so complicated?

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 6, 2013

So I guess what most of you are saying is that people have lost their ability to do what they want to do even in their own homes or even with their own spouses. They are to afraid to live their own life. This is why they make it complicated, so they don't have to make decisions about what to do even if they want to do something, like live nude. All this talk about equating nudity with freedom and enjoying life is just BS I suppose then. Sure smells like it anyway if it isn't.
Wow, really, well to those I say have a nice someone elses life because that's what they are doing.
Absolute Naturists arrow KEEP CALM — IT’S ONLY A …

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 6, 2013

ahhhh, if I recall I was talking about complementing a man on his penis and not talking about a woman's boobs. See that is what I am talking about. You guys have run all around that point. Are you afraid of being deemed a homosexual. What I interjected in this conversaton is this reluctance to compliment anything about a man's penis but a woman's parts seemed to be fair game.
I have seen some beautiful penis's in my time. I may have complimented the attached man I don't really remember. I am prettty forthright and usually say what is on my mind so I probably did. Of course his thoughts probably would have gone immediately to me wanting his penis rathr than just taking it as a compliment. Anyway, why is it so difficult for guy's to say anything about another guy's penis yet most of you find it so easy to talk about a woman's parts. Sounds like a Double Standard big time. That was my point.
And by the way, get over this PC thing about complementing. Everyone does it at one time or in one way or another, get real. There is nothing wrong with it.
Absolute Naturists arrow Why do we have to make nude living so complicated?

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 5, 2013

"I can't because blah blah blah..." or "my significant other blah blah blah" that is what I am talking about. Now tell me, what is wrong with sitting nude at your breakfast table in the morning having cup of coffee reading the latest issue of the House Beautiful magazine.... whoooooo how terrible is that. Friggin'n nothing, that's what wrong with it. We make it complicated when it is not.

Speaking of significant others or anti-spouses, maybe we should ask the significant others to try walking around the house and doing the normal household things nude so they can get a sense that it is the same as they do currently dressed. Should be nothing wrong with that. They are makeing it complicated by putting stigmas upon it and probably judgements about themselves. All they have to do is do everything they normally do except get dressed to do it. If they get chilly, put a robe on. I do. When they warm up, take it off and go about their normal activities. Maybe try it for a weekend.
Absolute Naturists arrow Why do we have to make nude living so complicated?

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 4, 2013

Why do we have to make nude living so complicated?
It is a pretty simple thing to do, even at home, yet we (ourselves)tend to throw all kinds of limitations and issues with doing it.
Your thoughts are appreciated and welcomed.
Absolute Naturists arrow KEEP CALM — IT’S ONLY A …

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 3, 2013

I was just thinking, I have heard many many comments from guys about "geez that's a beautiful pair of breasts" or "she's got a great pair of breasts" But never "geez that's a beautiful penis" or "what a great penis he has". Why is that? Is it some sort of homophobic thing with guys? As a woman I have no problem giving a positive or admiring comment be it breasts or a penis and it's generally accepted without judgement with everybody I am around. Now the guy's usually agree openly about the breasts and usually don't say anything about the penis other than maybe a look of possible envy even in a nudist environment. So what's the deal....
Absolute Naturists arrow What is the best nudist thing to do when winter arrives?

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 2, 2013

I just read in a different topic about having "nude hotel takeovers", now how fun can that be. Essentially you are creating your own nudist resort for a day or two. I am sure there are hotels that would not mind being TOTALLY booked for a couple of nights during the slow winter months. I have never thought of this before...it could even be a roving monthly type event, great idea!
Absolute Naturists arrow What "bugs" you the most about social nudity?

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 2, 2013

What "bugs" you the most about social nudity? Simple question, be honest and forthright, there are no right or wrongs. Just say what comes to your mind...

For me, it is nudist's that hide the fact that they enjoy social nudity.
Absolute Naturists arrow What is the best nudist thing to do when winter arrives?

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 2, 2013

I would agree... go south to warmer climates. AZ and South TX are always good BUT if you can't do that have nude indoor clothing optional gatherings/parties with friends and keep the social life going. Maybe you may just introduce somebody to a super newd way to live.
BTW... bunny's hop.
Absolute Naturists arrow What is the best nudist thing to do when winter arrives?

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 2, 2013

What do you think are the best nudist type things to do when winter arrives? Your thoughts and ideas appreciated.
Absolute Naturists arrow We need more activism

SunBunny

Posted: Aug 20, 2013

I would be truly surprised if that letter is printed. having had letters printed in the past myself, I have to say that the new administration is white washing just about everything. Even the old staffers, tghe ones that printed tose letters, have been replaced. I am a member, but I think AANR is stuck in the old Florida club model.
Bill I applaud you for keeping up the good fight and I join in your quest. I too am always frustrated by the nudists who are afraid to tell anybody, even family. In almost all fights and gain of civil rights it has been the people, not the organizations, that have made change reality. This is what is needed...
Thanks for the post Bill.
Absolute Naturists arrow Been Anywhere Interesting... and Nude?

SunBunny

Posted: Aug 20, 2013

I am glad to hear some of you (to few but) are doing fun things nude. We are bringing our summer in BC to a close. It was incredible this year. Nude on the boat is always a true naturist expereince. So many beautiful places to visit and explore. In the next few weeks it will be putting the boat to bed for the winter and getting ready to travel south for the winter to Natures Resort, our winter home.
Absolute Naturists arrow Been Anywhere Interesting... and Nude?

SunBunny

Posted: Aug 14, 2013

Have you been anywhere this summer that is interesting or fun with a nudist/naturist perspective? Tell us about it. Thanks!

(Or maybe even done something of note, it'sok too.)

I think y'all know where I have been...
SB
Absolute Naturists arrow Change of Heart.

SunBunny

Posted: Jul 30, 2013

I think my views have not changed much BUT it has been a real eye opener to hear how closed minded many of our members were when they first joined us and how far many of you have come to opening up their view of social nudism. That is definitely a good thing and i truly appreciate each of you who has allowed themselves to move forward. This how tribe works, and in my opinion we are a tribe.
Absolute Naturists arrow Naturist children/teenagers don't get anorexia or bulimia. Why?

SunBunny

Posted: Jul 20, 2013

I am very surprised that this topic really got no traction. It is an interesting question and one that has profound implications for the acceptance of family clothes free living if it is true. Do some research, ask someone about it, think about it and let's try it again. Surely you must have some thoughts on this....Thanks.
Absolute Naturists arrow Why is Labiaplasty on the rise for women in nudist circles?

SunBunny

Posted: Jul 20, 2013

Why is labiaplasty surgery on the rise for females, and especially those in the nudist circles?

I found this fact in an article I came upon. To me it is interesting from two different perspectives. From a body acceptance issue, women seem be more concerned about the look of their labia than their breasts. Therefore are more concerned with exposing to view the lower half of their bodies (hence the common waist wraps). The second is that this may be a root cause for women being more reluctant than men to enter the world of nudism. Almost every women I know in the open nudist world expresses a high degree of confidence and consequently not focused on issues such as this. However home nudity is more private and seems more acceptable to many women. The constant question seems to keep coming up, why are there more men in social nudity than women. Could this be the answer....hmmmm.

Back to the question: Why is labiaplasty surgery on the rise for females, and especially those in the nudist circles?
Your thoughts please. (guys, your toughts are welcome but also ask the women in your lives and tell us what they say). Thanks.
Absolute Naturists arrow Children Raised As Nudist... Choice?

SunBunny

Posted: Jul 12, 2013

thought I would bring this topic back to the forefront since we have recently had a AN member talking about being raised in a clothes free environment and the trials and tribulations that resulted. Are ther any new perspectives on this topic?
Absolute Naturists arrow AN / NCH Group Chat - Wed June 26 - 6:30pm PST

SunBunny

Posted: Jul 11, 2013

If anybody would like to host a conversation session for the AN Group please do. It's easy, but you need to be there and kind of keep it on track.
I decided that there was not enough interest being generated to keep it going on a weekly schedule but that does not mean anybody can not just step up to the plate every now and then. I won't be able to be on until September sometime since I am out of the country with sporadic internet connection but no big deal, you all are capable. So, go for it!
Absolute Naturists arrow Should nudist website limit the number of single men?

SunBunny

Posted: Jul 11, 2013

FROM Annie:
So here’s my $10,000 question: Should a nudist website limit the number of single male members or perhaps put them on a short probation?
:-)
Annie

SB: I thought it was a good question so let's talk about if there should be any limitations regarding gender and marital status on nudist websites. Annie, feel free to post topic questions whenever you like.
AN Members, your thoughts please.
Absolute Naturists arrow Has Nudist Clubhouse lost it's lustre?

SunBunny

Posted: Jul 5, 2013

Has Nudist Clubhouse lost it's lustre or has it become a site for "real" nudist's to discuss a variety topics and interests? Have the sex interested type folks and porn mongers left? What is the deal in your opinion?

This is the observation made by DP, one of our members which I found intriguing and hence leading to this topic for discussion.
What he said was:
"Astonishingly, almost all of the friends and members I used to converse with haven't visited NC for many months. The groups' section looks like the land of the living dead with ancient postings and apparently long gone group owners. I've also noticed that the majority of active members left are older men easily seen in various areas of the site and particularly on the NC opening page where the last time I looked there wasn't a single picture of a woman or anyone less than 40."

Again, please tell us your thoughts.

Absolute Naturists arrow SF Body Freedom Chutzpah

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 30, 2013

Once again Bill you nail it with few words. I totally agree with you and I also don't believe Gypsy and the othere who are leading the protest are nudists. They are not standing up for nudists, they are standing up for human rights. I am very good with that. The alignment with the Castro is not good for nudists either but SF is a different kind of place and at least they have the courage to take the city on. Since we and our national organizations are doing nothing in this regard, I really can't say much other than keep up the good fight.
Absolute Naturists arrow SF Body Freedom Chutzpah

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 29, 2013

Jim you are not alone in the gutless department when it comes to nudists, the nude community is full of them.
I applaud people like Gypsy. She has guts and is willing to put herself on the firing line for what she believes. The world would be a better place if we had more people like her.
These are the people that, through these actions, challenge the idiotic and provincial norms of society and hopefully will make people think more about it. The gutless nudist community should be jumping all over the soapbox that she has brought to the forefront of the public eye. The gutless nudist national organizations are to busy planning worthless conventions and lobbying with stuffed shirts for the beaches they are quickly losing. They are afraid to do what she is doing so they look in a different direction and distance themselves. Neither the community or organizations as a whole are lifting a finger of any significance to assist her in her efforts. Gypsy and others like her are the root and brillance of the nudist cause and that is what these organizations should be spending their time on.
Absolute Naturists arrow Will homosexuals lead the charge for more nude beaches?

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 29, 2013

Ok Jansen...you are a heretic, but then again in many ways the textile world would call all of us naturists/nudists heretics.
To your question, nude beaches are not a gay thing so to say gay's would lead the charge for more nude beaches is pure nonsense, no insane. In my experience it is primarily gay males who frequent nude beaches and primaily for "cruising" purposes. So do you fellas want to follow that model. Now that is going to go over big with the general public, get real pleeeeze. Gay (homosexuality)describes a persons sexual orientation, naturism/nudism does not. Get it right!
Once again, naturists/nudists need to QUIT thinking they need to follow any group and for once go out an LEAD.
Absolute Naturists arrow AN / NCH Group Chat - Wed June 26 - 6:30pm PST

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 27, 2013

Yes it was another fun time chat, very little discussion on the topic, but fun. Yes AndyBee was on his game for sure and CO-Home was entertaining. I appreciate that. I was however a little dissapointed with the turnout, maybe 10 in the chat as a high with half not from AN. Most of the time 5. While I do enjoy talking with my NCH Buddies and meeting new people, this sort of thing does take a committment to do every week. Yes even if you are retired, there are still many things to ocupy your time other than chatting online. Right FP?
I am wondering if you want to continue a weekly discussion or go to a different schedule? Would any of you be interested in "hosting a chat/discussion"? The moderators will still pick the topics but you can test out your moderator/hosting skills by doing this. You might like it. Let me know by comenting here. Thanks, SB
Absolute Naturists arrow AN / NCH Group Chat - Wed June 26 - 6:30pm PST

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 26, 2013

REMINDER: AN/NCH Group Discussion TONIGHT!

The TOPIC for Discussion: What do you find important/valuable/interesting/fun about connecting with other nudists/naturist online?

This discussion is open to any NCH members. You will find the Video Chat Room under the "People" drop down menu. Join in the AN Chat Room for this discussion.
Skinny Dippers and Chubby Dunkers arrow Summer Time Nude Swimming

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 24, 2013

Summer time swimming in WA is for polar bares. Not my cup of tea. When topics like this arise I wish I was back at Natures Resort where we have our winter home in South Texas. At Natures Resort not only is it a Clothes-Free community which is great, they also have a big swim pool, a volleyball pool, and a huge conversation hot tub. You can float around late at night and see stars all across the sky. Yeah, really, check it out.
Absolute Naturists arrow SF Body Freedom Chutzpah

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 23, 2013

The Body Freedom activists continue to fight for the human right to social nudity and body freedom.

If we all had the same San Francisco Chutzpah do you think we would live in a world of social nudity acceptance? Read and comment. thanks, SB.

http://sfbay.ca/2013/06/05/nudists-stand-up-to-charges-in-court/
Absolute Naturists arrow AN / NCH Group Chat - Wed June 26 - 6:30pm PST

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 23, 2013

The TOPIC for Discussion: What do you find important/valuable/interesting/fun about connecting with other nudists/naturist online?

This is a question I have been asked numerous times. I thought it would be interesting to discuss what you all think so I selected it as the topic for this week's AN Chat here on the NCH Chat system. Please Join in if you can or are interested.
See you there! SB

This chat is open to any NCH members. You will find the Video Chat Room under the "People" drop down menu. Join in the AN Chat Room for this discussion. Any Comments?
Absolute Naturists arrow KEEP CALM...They are only BREASTS.

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 23, 2013

This has been an interesting and very honest discussion. I applaud you all for staying on topic, even if skewed a little here and there. Yes I challenged all you guys and you stepped up, that is what this group is all about.
Frankly, I don't care what other groups may be saying or talking about in regards to our topics. The fact is they are talking about us. Why is that, because our members willingness to be challenged, think about things, and express themselves honestly. We are real, not just yakity yak BS'ers. We continue to be the most active, interesting and fastest growing group on NCH. The numbers don't lie.
Thanks everybody for making Absolute Naturists fantastic. SB
Absolute Naturists arrow AN Group Chat - Wed, June 19, 2013 - 6:30pm PST

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 20, 2013

I think we all had fun in this chat session. It was fun to have two additional women in the talk when we started talking about hair vs no hair you know where.
Having a topic really did make it more interesting and kept it on track. We will do it again. Anyone have a new topic to suggest?
SB
Absolute Naturists arrow AN Group Chat - Wed, June 19, 2013 - 6:30pm PST

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 19, 2013

LAST REMINDER (in less than 2 hours)The Wednesday Night Absolute Nudist Group Chat:
The TOPIC for Discussion:
To Shave or Not to Shave - Pros, Cons, Experiences.

6:30pm PST here on the NCH Chat system.

Everybody on NCH welcome to join in. Look for the AN Group Chat box.

Again anybody (NCH Ladies especially) on NCH is welcome to stop by and join in on the Absolute Nudists Group Open-Chat here on NCH on this TOPIC. We are hoping to make this a weekley event with different topics every week. Please stop by.
NorthWest Outdoor Nudists arrow Should TopFree be a legal in Washington State?

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 19, 2013

Does aybody know of any attempts to get this action going in WA. Is it already ok but just not spoken about? Are there any ladies willing to chime in on this?
Absolute Naturists arrow AN Group Chat - Wed, June 19, 2013 - 6:30pm PST

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 19, 2013

REMINDER about Tonights Absolute Nudist Chat:
6:30pm PST here on the NCH Chat system. Everybody on NCH welcome to join in. The TOPIC for Discussion:
To Shave or Not to Shave - Pros, Cons, Experiences.

Again anybody (NCH Ladies especially) on NCH is welcome to stop by and join in on the Absolute Nudists Group Open-Chat here on NCH on this TOPIC. We are hoping to make this a weekley event with different topics every week. Please stop by.
Absolute Naturists arrow KEEP CALM...They are only BREASTS.

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 19, 2013

Captin, thankyou for your honest and courageous answer. Seems like all the other guys scattered on this topic. I find that interesting that men have no problem talking about their penis in the other like topic but shy away from talking about the site of a woman's breast. What's the problem fellas?
I think I might make this a topic of a weekly chat. Might be a very short evening though...hmmm.
Absolute Naturists arrow AN Group Chat - Wed, June 19, 2013 - 6:30pm PST

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 18, 2013

I know the topic is a common one, ever wonder why...hmmmm.
CO, careful what you wish for. TxBiker, you are absolutely correct, it is all about starting discussions, just like the group topics here in AN. If any of you have ideas for topics please let us know and the moderators will consider them.
As stated previously, if you want to join in on the discussion please do. if you don't, then don't. Simple. See some of you there! SB
Absolute Naturists arrow AN Group Chat - Wed, June 19, 2013 - 6:30pm PST

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 17, 2013

The TOPIC for Discussion:
To Shave or Not to Shave - Pros, Cons, Experiences.

Anybody (NCH Ladies especially) on NCH is welcome to stop by and join in on the Absolute Nudists Group Open-Chat here on NCH on this TOPIC. We are hoping to make this a weekley event with different topics every week. Please stop by.

Any comments are welcomed. SB
Texas Nudists and Resorts arrow Understanding Nudity Laws in Texas

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 17, 2013

Appreciate your thoughts Tx, anyone else have any info on this topic.
Absolute Naturists arrow AN Group Chat... would you particpate?

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 16, 2013

Eventhough this topic may have been offered with a little humor, I like it for a chat. Not sure haw many ways there are to talk about it, but we can give it a go. I asked, I got... no problem. As I said earlier, WE (the moderators) will select, schedule and promote the Chat. Members, I would like you to just offer topic ideas.
Claro..., any other topic ideas folks?
SB
Absolute Naturists arrow WNBR - Are Nudist's being used again?

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 15, 2013

J.P., I think I have a very good understanding of what WNBR is all about. If you are correct in what you are saying, then there is a problem with consistency of purpose and message of WNBR. Not all rides tout acceptance of the nude human body as much as use it. At least the one here in Bellingham WA didn't. Consequently I recently chose not to ride in it. Even though I support reduction on dependence of fossil fuels and healthier environments, it is not on the top of my list. If I had rode in it, it would have been more for body acceptance, body freedom and top freedom for women. Those are human rights and equal rights causes. That was not the cause of WNBR so I did not do it. In addition, when there are folks in the ride who have issues with body acceptance, be their own and reject social nudity as a way of life, and like what FireProf said, drive home in the SUV's after the ride (I lived in LA, I know the vehicle style is there) then it would seem to me that what you percieve as a wholesome body acceptance message is more of a let's check one off the bucket list and ride our bike naked in LA type of crowd. If the support of well wishers along the ride path were so strong in favor of social nudity, where are they when it comes to social and pubic nudity acceptance legal issues and causes. Maybe it is not so altruistic as you may think.
I am all for social causes and I think if you truly are supportive of the cause itself, you should support THE CAUSE. Bay to Breakers has a Bare Contigent supportin the cause. Now that I can get behind. Mixed messaging with your own bumber stickers and temporary tattoos or body paint messages for other causes detracts from the cause. That would be hypocritical and using the WNBR for other purposes. Two wrongs do not make a right in my opinion. If WNBR had a Bare contigent supporting the cause that would be a different story.
Absolute Naturists arrow AN Group Chat... would you particpate?

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 15, 2013

I have an idea (imagine that). Instead of just general BS Chats why don't we schedule Topic Talks on the Chat system. That way if you are interested you can join in and if you are not you don't. We can also open it up to others on NCH and get them in on the topic. Any member can submit a topic for discussion in advance and the moderators will select one and post it ahead of time. If we have enought topics we could do a once a week sort of thing. Frankly I like it. While I do enjoy connecting with our members, I really don't have much patience for general rambling bs. Tell me what you think?
Absolute Naturists arrow WNBR - Are Nudist's being used again?

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 14, 2013

Are nudist's once again being used by participating in the World Naked Bike Ride?

"Initially the message of the WNBR was protesting against oil dependency and celebrating the power and individuality of the human body. In 2006, there was a shift towards simplifying the message and focusing on cycling advocacy. While the ride does include and appeal to participants from social nudity circles, the ride is not focused on promoting social nudity directly as much as cycling." wikipedia

It is NOT about promoting social or recreational nudity and the "naked" is more about publicity and creating interest. This is not much different than the "sex sells" concept. Your thoughts?
Absolute Naturists arrow KEEP CALM...They are only BREASTS.

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 13, 2013

Why is the Female breast always a focal point of eroticism and sexual arousal for men? Your thought please.

Sometime back we had similiar topic post about the Penis. I still have not figured out how to post pictures in a topic so I am hoping AndyBee can help out on this task. I think it would help. I loved the little cartoon of the nudist woman tell the fella behind the bushes to think about someting calming in the other topic. It was classic.
Absolute Naturists arrow AN Group Chat... would you particpate?

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 13, 2013

Group... would a weekly regular chat work better for you? I really want to hear from more than the <1% that participated recently. All AN Group Members...tell us what you are thinking about this PLEASE.
Absolute Naturists arrow AN Group Chat... would you particpate?

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 12, 2013

In answer to the original topic question, I have to say the answer for the majority of AN members is NO. The showing last evening did not even equal 1% of the 766 AN membership. Thank you to those who did chime in. Thank you to COHome for instigating (baiting) this chat session and keeping the conversation going. Yes we are all busy with our lives and we have many things going on, I get it. It just takes a little effort to make things happen. Maybe if we did this on a weekly basis it may gain more traction but nobody has to wait for FP or me to do this. As I have said a number of times, FP and I do our best to keep this group interesting and continuing. We think communication is important. However we can't want it more for you than you want it for yourselves. Any of you can start a group chat or submit topics for discussion. It is easy. Don't wait for the "leaders" to take action, do it yourself.
Absolute Naturists arrow AN Group Chat... would you particpate?

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 11, 2013

Bad bad CO-Home, baiting the old folks. Geez, am I feeling elder abuse. As Rodney Dangerfield said, I get no respect...

We are not retired, we are independent contractors of fun and business is good. We are just way to busy having all the fun we could not do when we had to (ugh) work.

Hope to catch you all on-line tonight, if I don't fall asleep after eating at the Early Bird Special dinner where I get an AARP discount... SB
Absolute Naturists arrow Celebrity Participation -- Helpful or Not?

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 10, 2013

Since you said specifically in your topic they were going to a nude beach... I don't think that would be good for anybody. That is to much of a free for all and someone would surely be taking pictures without the benefit of commentary. It would probably end up messing up the beach for all the regulars.
Now if the celeb was just open about enjoying nude living or recreation or even vacationing at a nude resort that would set a different tone and have the benefit of their personal reasoning and commentary. No one could put words in their mouth. I think Heidi Klum did that just like Helen Mirren. They were honest, forthright and sincere. It was no big deal and I think it does help the cause since many people idolize these folks. Now if was wack job Tom Cruise I would be suspect of his sincerity.
Absolute Naturists arrow How Open Are You About Being an Absolute Naturist?

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 10, 2013

I don't think it is any easier for a woman to be open about enjoying social nudity. It is more of how you carry your confidence with your chosen style of living. I agree with Cheri, be open and be honest of you decisions. Honesty is the best shield against stupidity. It does take a strong woman to do this because guys will be thinking a lot of stupid things right a way. I am sure Cheri could easily join me in telling lots of stories in this regard. I wish more women would follow her example. I also rarely use the term nude recreation because it is so limiting. Clothes free is a far better description.

Communication is an huge part of daily living. Words are more important than you think. This is where some of the guys may be going south on why they think (and probably are) they are being percieved as perverts. This is the issue I have with the term "nude recreation". Recreation is Playtime, it is not Alltime. I don't just play this way, I am this way. Anyway, I have heard a few fellas on here say that they can't wait to get home, close the curtains and get naked. If you told me that, it would not be that hard to vision a guy with a bag of cheetos watching a porn movie in the dark all by himself. Guys, it is all in how you say it. As a woman, if I said that, the perception probably would not be much different. If you are open and honest, choose words carefully, relay self confidence in your decisions about how you choose to live... nobody can make anything out of it. So to sum it up, words are the issue, not gender. Actually I have found that honesty and correct words backs off the ones that try to make something out of it.
Absolute Naturists arrow AN Group Chat... would you particpate?

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 7, 2013

Thanks FireProf... If someone would like to organize this it would be great. Not that hard to do. TommyGunn, how about you?
All you need to do is set a date, time and create a specific room for the AN group in the chat room. We have such a large AN membership that it is almost impossible to get everybody logged on at the same time so don't worry about it. Maybe even a weekly thing would work. As fireProf said, it was fun a successful. We had folks from other group drop in as well and that was good.
OK, who wants to step up and do this?
NorthWest Outdoor Nudists arrow Bike Ride In Bellingham

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 5, 2013

The NW version of the WNBR will take place this coming Friday, June 7, 2013. It will be in Bellingham WA. See article in Bellingham Herald Wesite. or

https://sites.google.com/site/bellinghamwnbr/

You may see me there! SB
Absolute Naturists arrow Naturist children/teenagers don't get anorexia or bulimia. Why?

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 3, 2013

Do Nudist children/teenagers have a less probability of suffering from anorexia or bulimia?

I recently read an article in a nudist venue's (Nude not C/O) newsletter stating this topic. It read "Living in a naturist community is beneficial for children. Instead of playing with Barbie dolls with unrealistic, unattainable dimensions and reading women's magazines that preach that you have to change to be popular, children in a naturist environment see the wide range of normal body types and how people change with age. They accept how they look and who they are."

Makes sense to me... your thoughts please.



Texas Nudists and Resorts arrow Best Places to Nude Vacation in Texas

SunBunny

Posted: May 30, 2013

Natures Resort is the BEST in South Texas. There is only one other, Sandpipers. I prefer Natures because it is a NUDIST resort, not a clothing optional. It is a real opportunity to get the feel of what it is like to live nude 24/7. The ownership is nice and welcoming. They are always making improvements. Singles and pets are welcome. It is a perfect climate for nude life. I know, I live there in the winter months.
Check their website for more info.
Absolute Naturists arrow A Black Mark on Social Nudity

SunBunny

Posted: May 29, 2013

"A Clothing Optional Resort” — crossed out with black marker" is what the business cards of Faulty Towers now look like. This was the wording found in the article about FT's removal from a C/O orientation for sale purposes.
What is the message in this action about social nudity?
Nudist News arrow Fawlty Towers

SunBunny

Posted: May 29, 2013

As Gomer would say... Surprise Surprise Surprise.
I had this feeling about FT from the get go. That guy should watch Hotel Impossible to find out why his business is really failing instead of doing the C/O thing thinking that sex sells. I have no sympathy for nudist pimps.
As I always say, if you ain't one, don't try to be one. Social nudity is more than skin deep. Thanks for the post CO Home, you are the best!
Absolute Naturists arrow Nudism vs Exhibitionism

SunBunny

Posted: May 26, 2013

I guess there is two different types of exhibitionism. One is to get attention (bike rides) and the other is for sexual gratification. To me neither is about positive social nudity. Do you really think that the bike riders are intrested in promoting social nudity? I doubt it. I also doubt that these people are nudists. Just look at them, they are more interested in being a spectacle. Being a nudist/naturist is not about being a spectacle I don't care where you are at.

To think that either of these types of exhibitionism will ever promote or help people understand positive and get use to social nudity is just insane. BTW, nudity is a way of living and a mindset for me, not a fashion choice.
Absolute Naturists arrow Nudism vs Exhibitionism

SunBunny

Posted: May 19, 2013

Jim I don't mean to bag on you but I am still having difficulty separating the practice of leaving "your robe hanging open" when you go to the mailbox and exhibitionism or maybe even flashing. That would be like me going to the grocery store with see-thru clothing. Feels like exhibitionism to me and I think the reaction by a passerby would see it exactly as that. This would in turn would not be a good example of social nudity.
Absolute Naturists arrow A Paradox?

SunBunny

Posted: May 14, 2013

I think you all missed the point. Let me break it down as I see it. The original statement is the paradox of nudist going to nudist clubs and wanting to be dressed. Forget about the world for now. If belonged to a wine club, would I have joined it because I like to drink beer, of course not. If you belonged to a a boating club, would you have joined it because you like to fly airplanes, of course not. So why in the H would you go to a NUDIST club if you don't like to be completely nude and enjoying it. To me even partially dressed is dressed and not nude. It does not make sense. If you want to try baby steps try it at home or at a party with other nudists where the home rules. To me the words clothing-optional create the paradox of the nudist world. Club owners have a tough time enforcing Nude Only because of the paradox of what nudist means to each and every individual. Maybe the question should be what is the purpose of a nudist club.
Now IF the world view was to become more relaxed about nudity, maintaining laws about lewdness and other things of that sort, yes it would be a "clothing-optional world" or as I say a human rights respecting world. There would be nothing wrong with that. Everyone could be as they prefer. In that sense, a paradox would not even exist.
Absolute Naturists arrow Hidden Springs

SunBunny

Posted: May 12, 2013

I am guessing he is talking about Hidden Springs Nudist Club in Portland, Oregon. It is a non-landed club so I doubt anybody has been there. Maybe someone has participated in their activities, I dunno. I never have so I know nothing about them. They have a website so you can check it out. It is: hiddenspringsnudist.org.
Absolute Naturists arrow Would you take your mother to a nudist venue?

SunBunny

Posted: May 12, 2013

Well I doubt that my mother would have ever wanted to try social nudity herself, I would have loved to taken her with me. She always got a chuckle about me enjoying social nudity and she was always supportive of my decisions in life. It just was not her cup of tea. I think it would have really been an opportunity to become even closer as adult to adult. She past away several months ago so we never got a chance to possibly cross that bridge.
Reading some of your posts, I feel I really missed something. Thank you for sharing those stories.
Texas Nudists and Resorts arrow What Do Nudists Wear to a Texas BBQ?

SunBunny

Posted: May 12, 2013

hmmmmmm... for me it is:
Cooking: Nothing on! oh, sunglasses maybe.
Eating BBQ: Nothing except a little bbq sauce here and there.

dang I miss being out there with y'all bbqing and stuff!
Absolute Naturists arrow Would you take your mother to a nudist venue?

SunBunny

Posted: May 10, 2013

If your mother, knowing you were a nudist, said she was interested in trying social nudity and asked you to take her to a nudist resort/club.... would you? Do you have any thoughts about seeing your mother nude or being nude with your mother?

I realized that for some of us, our mothers have passed, me included, but you can still provide your thoughts on the subject which could prove valuable to others. Thanks.
Texas Nudists and Resorts arrow What Do Nudists Wear to a Texas BBQ?

SunBunny

Posted: May 10, 2013

What do Texas nudists wear to a Texas BBQ?
Let's all have a little fun with this...
Absolute Naturists arrow Is the Textile World more sexualized than the Nudist World?

SunBunny

Posted: May 9, 2013

To me clothing is all about marketing, be it professional, cool, sexy, whatever... it is all about marketing or bring attraction to oneself by providing a subliminal message via the clothing. Marketing is selling, sex sells. Clothing is always sexual in some way and it is the forerunner of everything in the textile world so, in my opinion the textile world is more sexually focused than the nudist world. That is why sexual tensions usually get dropped when seeing a person totally nude in the context of a nudist club.
Absolute Naturists arrow Clothing at Nudist Clubs... Is there a problem?

SunBunny

Posted: May 9, 2013

Is there a problem with allowing clothing to be worn at nudist orientated clubs?

In another recent topic, many of you agreed that the textile world is more sexualized than the nudist world so considering this, how does a sexually oriented/designed Thong swimwear bottoms being worn by a woman in a clothing-optional nudist venue fit into this equation? Isn't this where textile sexual mentality and actions enters into the nudist world and therefor give credibility to the textile belief that nudist clubs are sex clubs?
There are nudist clubs that have policies about under-wear not being outter-wear and therefore prohibited BUT I have seen some swimwear that is 100 times more sexy than underwear and this is ok and acceptable by these policies. This is why I am not a fan of clothing-optional nudist clubs. If you are a nudist orientated club then be nude. Otherwise it seems to me bohemian style would be a better name for clothing-optional, dump the policies, and just be unconventional.
hmmmmm, what do you think.
Absolute Naturists arrow How Open Are You About Being an Absolute Naturist?

SunBunny

Posted: May 3, 2013

Thanks AZsunDude, I appreciate your words.
I know that not everybody can live openly with their quest to physically live a nude life, but it is those that choose to place themselves in textile handcuffs in a many times self-imposed fear of retribution that really need to consider my words about living your life according to you and not others. yeah yeah yeah, I know... I can here all the excuses echoing off the Grand canyon walls. To that I say, if you can't get in right in your head, you wil never get in right in somebody else's head. I have heard sooooooo many stories of what some folks THINK will happen to them only to find out later that the world has moved on from the past times and schools of thought and in reality it was no big deal. BTW, to me there are no "accidents", only a tippy-toe coming out process which many have done.
Never let your fears hold you back from doing anything you know is true and right in your heart... there will be regrets in the end.
Absolute Naturists arrow Is the Textile World more sexualized than the Nudist World?

SunBunny

Posted: May 2, 2013

Is the Textile World more sexualized focus of things than the Nudist World? What do you think...
Absolute Naturists arrow How Open Are You About Being an Absolute Naturist?

SunBunny

Posted: May 2, 2013

As most of you know, I am very open about my being a nudist. Be they family and friends or strangers in a nail salon. To date I have never got a "runaway" reaction rather a more curious reaction and sometimes even an admission that they have tried or participate in social nudity.
Every time I hear a person say that they are afraid to let people know that they like to be nude I feel sadness for them because they feel they must be doing something bad. I say live your life as you want to and be proud of your choices.
NorthWest Outdoor Nudists arrow Do you wanna dance naked? Go to LARC

SunBunny

Posted: Apr 30, 2013

This coming weekend at LARC in Mount Vernon WA is the Cinco de Mayo prelude dance (Saturday May 4). I will be the DJ for this dance and I am going to have it rockin'.
Have you ever danced naked? Try it, you'll like it!
Absolute Naturists arrow Are Nudist's Cheap?

SunBunny

Posted: Apr 27, 2013

Are Nudist's cheap when it comes to joining or supporting social nudity venues?

I seem to constantly hear "fees are to high" as a primary reason for not joining a nudist club. I hear the "sliding scale" concept often as an idea to get people to join a club. I have to believe that these comments most often come from persons who have no clue on the cost of running a business but I also wonder if these nudist who throw these statemeents out are just CHEAP. What do you think.
Absolute Naturists arrow Do Nudist Venues Hinder the Growth of Public Social Nudity?

SunBunny

Posted: Apr 23, 2013

I think the last few posts have gotten off topic. This is an interesting topic (for sure a complex one) but I think one that is well worth thinking and talking about more. Please reread the topic and lets hear from you.
Absolute Naturists arrow Do Nudist Venues Hinder the Growth of Public Social Nudity?

SunBunny

Posted: Apr 21, 2013

So Michigan, what you are saying is that nudist venues are a crutch for hiding or insecure nudists for their practice of social nudity. In this sense are these venues not hindering the promotion of social nudity by being the crutch. If these venues were not available, what would their alternative be. Would there not be a greater motivation by these nudists be more active in changing laws and more actively supporting social actions regarding issues such as nude beaches or maybe even joining or supporting organizations like The Naturist Society as you say.

Also I am having difficulty understanding how a nudist who frequents and enjoys going to C/O beaches, which usually have no cost involved, club rules are non-existent and anonymity is a natural occurence, would suddenly feel the urge to gravitate to a nudist venue where all those things are required.
Given this, I find it difficult to understand how "it is in the interest of the private nudist resorts to support the development of public venues". Seems to me that giving your customers and cheaper and less rigid option is not the path to continuing a profitable business. Am I missing something?


Absolute Naturists arrow Who is the "New Nudist"?

SunBunny

Posted: Apr 19, 2013

To me the "new nudist" is the person who feels that their desire to be nude is not confined or defined by others. They do not feel a need to belong to a club and act in accordance with a club's rules. They do not believe that nudity is an item of focus as much as an act of simple enjoyment. The new nudist should not be defined by age or gender but rather by freedom of mind and choice. They will do and act as they see best for them. Simple as that... that's what I think anyway.
Absolute Naturists arrow Tips & Ideas for Nude Friendly & Comfortable Living Homes

SunBunny

Posted: Apr 19, 2013

Keep your homes warm and comfortable and DO NOT make nudity a leading issue...just be normal and go about your daily living chores. That is what we do and after while it is not even a thought that you or anybody else is nude.
Absolute Naturists arrow Do Nudist Venues Hinder the Growth of Public Social Nudity?

SunBunny

Posted: Apr 19, 2013

What went through my mind on posting this topic is that it dawned on me that nudist clubs/venues are self-imposed places for the acceptable practice of social nudity. AANR calls it “appropriate settings” for social nudity. These are self-imposed places where we are allowed to let our children be nude with adults and let them enjoy themselves. These venues are the places where we can truly feel free to express our beliefs and values on social nudity. These are the places where we are allowed to assemble in the nude and enjoy being nude. These are the places where we can be relatively assured of being treated as law abiding citizens. These are the places where we can feel relatively free of retributions. By the way, many of these are contained in the AANR Nudist Bill of Rights.

It seems to me that we have bought into the textile thinking that nudity may be a healthy and natural way of living when practiced in appropriate places like our nudist clubs/venues but not anywhere else that will potentially offend anybody. So if nudity really makes us feel good, gives us a sense of true freedom, lets the sunshine warms our bodies as no indoor furnace can and allows us the feeling of being law abiding citizens when enjoying social nudity, then why must we have to hide behind the walls we have built for this practice. When a club advertises themselves with signage yet fails to mention the practice of social nudity, it is hiding for fear of not being acceptable or offending someone. Also if your club proudly advertises itself as a nudist venue but the signage is out in the middle of the woods where textile families rarely or never drive, is that really being proud of what you do. Are they saying to the membership that there is something wrong with social nudity by this action, yes they are and by those actions hindering the advancement of social nudity.

My point is if we really believed nudity was a wholesome and natural way to live, that there is nothing wrong with letting our kids run around the house and yard nude with nude Mom's and Dad's without fearing that a neighbor or school teacher will turn you in to the child protection agency, that we are law abiding citizens with the right to uphold our values and beliefs without fear of retribution, then why in the world would we only be willing to talk about it or practice it behind 10 foot walls, or as AANR says “appropriate settings”. To me these clubs/venues are stuck in the old school Florida nudist model and are doing nothing to perpetuate the open practice of social nudity. Why would they, it is a business for them, it is a livelihood for the owners. They have no motivation to tell members that they do not need to come there to enjoy the practice of social nudity. They have no reason to stand up in front of a governmental agency and tell them that there is nothing wrong with the practice of social nudity. They have no reason to support the continuance of clothing optional beaches. Lack of growing membership in these clubs/venues speaks volumes to the fact that they are out of step with the newer school of thought that people have the right to live as they desire as long as they are not purposely offending others. That they do not need to join a club to be responsible in their practice and belief in social nudity. This is respecting the acceptance of community responsibility within one's self. To me, in this sense they are hindering social nudity. For the common nudist, they are a place to hide behind. If they were not there, what would nudists do. Maybe learn to stand up and be proud of your values and beliefs in the practice of social nudity and openly show that you have nothing to be afraid or or ashamed of. Perhaps even contribute to the growth of the acceptance of social nudity.
NorthWest Outdoor Nudists arrow Should TopFree be a legal in Washington State?

SunBunny

Posted: Apr 19, 2013

Should Topfree for females be legal in the State of Washington? Your thoughts with topfreedom in the NW please.
Absolute Naturists arrow Do Nudist Venues Hinder the Growth of Public Social Nudity?

SunBunny

Posted: Apr 19, 2013

Do nudist venues (resorts, clubs, camps, etc.) hinder the growth and acceptance of public social nudity? Your thoughts please.

Texas Nudists and Resorts arrow Best Places to Nude Vacation in Texas

SunBunny

Posted: Apr 19, 2013

Where are the best places to have a nude vacation in Texas?
Absolute Naturists arrow Who is the "New Nudist"?

SunBunny

Posted: Apr 17, 2013

In your opinion, who or what is the "New Nudist"?

The memberships in clubs are falling, there on on-going attempts to reach new members with dismal success, some of us "old" nudists (me, included) are scratching our heads trying to figure out how to reach and attract younger people into social nudity yet nothing seems to really be working. So... in your opinion who and what is the demographic of this emerging "New Nudist"? Your thoughts please.
Absolute Naturists arrow Nudist Pageantry... should we bring it back?

SunBunny

Posted: Apr 11, 2013

Maybe it would be an opportunity to combat the image of Nudes-A-Poppin that non-nudist people think we are all about. Then again, maybe we should just say goodbye to a fun past time and not worry about what people think.
Absolute Naturists arrow Would the world be a better place if nudity was a human right and allowed ?

SunBunny

Posted: Apr 5, 2013

Would the world be a better place if nudity was a basic human right, as freedom of speech, and allowed everywhere with commonplace acceptance? Your thoughts please.

(Thanks for the topic idea MarcNude.)
Absolute Naturists arrow Nudist Pageantry... should we bring it back?

SunBunny

Posted: Apr 5, 2013

Skyclad,
Thankyou for your words. I do hear you and I hope everyone else will too. All I ask from members is for constructive thought and input on any topic, be it pro or con. I do appreciate your passion. Let's move on.
NorthWest Outdoor Nudists arrow Have you been to LARC ?

SunBunny

Posted: Apr 4, 2013

LARC open it's season couple of weeks ago and is offering a full calendar of activities. LARC is in Mount Vernon WA and a very nice venue with really fun and cool people. Have any of you been there?
Absolute Naturists arrow Obsessed?

SunBunny

Posted: Apr 4, 2013

ok, my 4 cents worth:
1)To what extent (extreme) could a naturist/nudist be considered too obsessed with being such?

My Ans: Walking around in a blizzard nude. Trust me, I have seen some people do some very dumb things. More seriously, when a naturist/nudist uses their nudity to make statements without regard to anyone or anything. To me it speaks more about the fantasy or personal gratification of being nude around others rather than simply the appreciation, enjoyment and freedom of nudity. To that I say, Obsessed-yes, Possessed-yes, Dumb-yes, Nudist/Naturist-no.

2)For a naturist/nudist, could there ever be too much nudity or is it simply not possible?

My Ans: How can anything be to much when it just is. Living in a nude community, I never walk out the door in the morning and ask myself if I am too nude or if I have been too nude lately. That does not mean logic leaves reality. It is just the way life is for the naturist/nudist. It is just not logical or possible to be too nude and Mr. Spock would agree I am sure.

Thanks for the topic! SB
Absolute Naturists arrow Nudist Pageantry... should we bring it back?

SunBunny

Posted: Apr 4, 2013

Sky, why does it all have to be about judgement and objectification with you. You have been casting stones from the get go on this one and have yet to offer anything yourself as a potential idea to bring it back in a new format even as food for thought. Then again, I guess if you are so set against it why would you offer anything. I don't think it is fair or beneficial to anyone just to keep taking these self-righteous potshots. You even considered me as a person who dos not understand social nudity and an idiot for even posting this topic and when called on it you just threw more venom. All I have heard from you is No NO NO. Is that really all you got.
I have read some good thoughts from persons who are open to discussions about having fun with pageants and not making a huge big deal out of it. That is what forums like this are for. They are not for grandstanding and pontification. If you are so set against it, all you had to do is say No I don't think we should ever bring pageantry back, that's all. I believe we would have all understood where you were at. Afterall, that was the question posed. No browbeating and redundant potsots were necessary to make your position known. Just for fun, if you are open to fun, why don't you offer some suggestion that would make it acceptable to you since as you say you have yet to hear anything that is acceptable to you.
Absolute Naturists arrow Are women "nude" and men "naked"?

SunBunny

Posted: Apr 3, 2013

Fellas, maybe you should ask the women in your circles which term they would prefer to use to describe themselves when considering or participating in private or social nudity. Nude or Naked. Ask them, if they are walking around their home without clothing doing what they normally do, are they walking around nude or naked? Let us know what they say.

Nudony, yes we (M vs V)are different in how we approach and consider issues and life, yes we think, speak and interpret differently, yes you are on to something and no it is not just semantics. Thank you for more openly reconsidering my thoughts on this subject and also posting another excellent topic.
Absolute Naturists arrow Nudist Pageantry... should we bring it back?

SunBunny

Posted: Apr 3, 2013

Well said Captin, well said.
When pageants were held in the past by the nudists at and in the nudist venues, I seriously doubt that they thought about being demeaning, politically incorrect, vulgar, sexist, exploitative or anything else like that. They were simply enjoying each others company and enjoying the life and freedom of social nudity. A simpler time, a simpler way of existence. The Easter Bunny was the Easter Bunny and Christmas was Christmas. So what was so wrong with that. A simpler time thats all.

Yes times have changed. The internet has changed us all as well. We have lost our small communities and their values and innocence of actions. I am smart enough to know we can never go back to those simple times. Times have changed, some for the good and some not so good. However to call those times and actions of yesteryear bad and demeaning with such rancor as has been done here serves no value. The concept of pageantry at nudist venues for the good of positive nudist expressions was offered for discussion. It does not take an open mind to respond to that, just a thinking mind. A mind that is able to offer constructive input, either pro or con. It has been my experience that those who tend to loudly lay claim to the term open minded usually offer only words that speak volumes of the opposite. I am not sure if anybody is really completely open minded. Very few have a strong enough egos to be open to challenge by others viewpoints and opinions, but we should try. What good does it do to just cast stones. I do get tired and frustrated with people who would rather cast stones than build with them. If you have ever looked upon a old castle they are usually built with stones of all shapes, colors, sizes and content. These stones, regardless of their makeup, build strong common foundations and common walls that can last for centuries. When topics of the likes of pageantries are opened for discussions it would be nice for a change that we all approach them as if we are adding our stones for building and not just throwing. If we all brought our heads and words together in the same vain in building a stronger nudist/naturist community we all may just be better for it and add to its continuance. Thats all I got to say about that...
NorthWest Outdoor Nudists arrow Bicycle Rides... what is happening to them?

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 31, 2013

Evidently not much...
Absolute Naturists arrow Nudist Pageantry... should we bring it back?

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 30, 2013

FP, I appreciate your responding defense of me on this topic. It is a touchy subject and everybody is welcome to their opinions and free to express them as I did. I rarely respond a quickly as I did but when a member calls a subject that I post as dangerous I have to respond and I did. I don't post dangerous subjects, be clear about that. I post challenging subjects. I can't control how you percieve topics or subjects but I will put them out there for you to think about. Obviously this topic has ruffled a few feathers and that is good because it helps us all think and consider other viewpoints. It's not about agreeing with me or not. In the same breath, it's also not about me agreeing with any of you either and thats ok. This forum is for discussions both pro and con of subjects revolving around naturism/nudism be they past, present or future. If you want to take a swipe at me I really don't care either because that is not the point. If you want to nicpic my words then I invite you to put those same energys to more contructive uses and come up with and post challenging and thought provoking subjects that every one can respond to here in this group. That's what this group is all about. Shall we move on on this topic, frankly I am enjoying the responses so far.
Absolute Naturists arrow Nudist Pageantry... should we bring it back?

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 29, 2013

If I thought it was a dangerous subject I would not have posted first of all. If you see it as dangerous or a "girlie show" you also missed (or don't understand) the words fun, family oriented and nude positive in the post. There is nothing wrong with being considered beautiful in whatever way, be you male or female, young or old, slim or full figuered, tall or short or whatever. It could well serve to build confidence and self esteem with body acceptance and natural human nudity. It could well be a media hit and show social nudity in a normal and positive light. To me it just seems like pageantry has gotten the bad rap and nudist clubs/members have sexualized pageants themselves to the point that they now run in the opposite direction. Quit sexualizing it. The nude body is beautiful, nudists carry a confidence with not being afraid to show and enjoy their nude bodies and that is beautiful and empowering. So whats so bad about that?
Absolute Naturists arrow Nudist Pageantry... should we bring it back?

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 29, 2013

Nudist Pageants were common back in the mid 19's but stopped due to political correctness and sexual exploitations. Should we bring these pageants back, but this time in a fun, family orientatd and nudist positive format?
Clothing Optional Bed & Breakfasts arrow C/O B & B Network On-line

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 28, 2013

I am absolutely dumbfounded by this...
C-O, after all the words spoken about your efforts to coordinate a superduper concept, your advertising efforts, your inclusion in national organizations revolving around social nudity to me it saddening that some people have still not heard of you. I guess it just go's to show that marketing never stops. By that statement, I am including ALL of the Nudist Community. I always support you and talk you up, keep up the good work.
Absolute Naturists arrow Mazo Beach - Another one bites the dust.... Is it possible?

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 28, 2013

Seems to me that when it gets right down to it nobody cares unless they are directly affected by such actions. This is where the solidarity of the naturist/nudist community always fall short.

Law enforcement actions such as this while on the surface are altrusitically credible, the underlying question in my mind is what brought the illegal behavior to the beach. To me the answer is simple. By making social nudity illegal you have placed it in the same bucket as as all the other "illegal activities" that are occuring. Naturists/nudists are no better than drug dealers putting it bluntly. In the eyes of the public illegal is illegal, there are no kinda sort of's if you get my drift. By making this beach, and any others like it, legal for public nudity you give full authority to make any other illegal actions punishable and therefor deter the actions. Hence, fix the issue and you resolve the issue.
Absolute Naturists arrow Tips & Ideas for Nude Friendly & Comfortable Living Homes

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 25, 2013

What tips or ideas can you share with the group for making their homes and yards more friendly and comfortable for daily nude living?
Please share, thankyou.
Absolute Naturists arrow Mazo Beach - Another one bites the dust.... Is it possible?

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 22, 2013

I just read a report on the weekday clousure of Mazo Beach (WI) which had been commonly used by nudists because of excellerated useage for illegal ativities stemming around the homosexual cruising and sexual displays.

This is another example of the textile/law enforcement community throwing law abiding ettiquette upholding card carrying nudists in the same bucket as the perverts. Is it possible that this has now become the latest method of attacking social nudity? Did San Francisco spark this direction? So how do you feel about that?
Absolute Naturists arrow Is Fantasy Fest a Fantasy Nudist's dream come true?

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 22, 2013

uhhh... who said anything about tattoos?
As I understand tattoos are more of a personal statement or embrace that a person chooses for life to display for themselves. Some of them are artforms, some badges of lifestyle and some of them are life events. Unless it is a temporay tattoo of some sort, this would be another grouping of people that I don't think would go to such events as FF or BM just to show off their tattoos. It would minimize their tat's intent or signicance. I don't think I need to read anybodys post to understand that. Am I right?

Absolute Naturists arrow Is Fantasy Fest a Fantasy Nudist's dream come true?

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 22, 2013

I think my point was missed, I guess I didn't do a good job in my post question. What I was getting at was when you attend a event like Fantasy Fest (could be Burning Man or any like event) and your whole reason for being there is to just be nude or almost nude around other people, doesn't that make your nudity a fantasy (hence a Fantasy Nudist). To me it does. It also means that when the event is over, you go back to your textile way of living because after all it was only a fantasy you were acting out. As a absolute naturist / nudist, I don't live a fantasy. Why would I ever want to put it in a display such as that, it would only serve to make mockery of it as the Marilyn Monroe drag queens do. I have nothing against a little play time, I think it is good for the soul but make it play time and not real time.

As far as B-2-B or WNBR (etc.), to me these are more of social causes and when you attend as a naturist/nudist that you are making more of a statement that you as a naturist/nudist supporting the cause like others participating are doing. I can easily get on with that. It demonstrates that we are part of a caring community of like minded everyday people in support a common cause. Way different even of it does provide entertainment for a few.
Absolute Naturists arrow Is Fantasy Fest a Fantasy Nudist's dream come true?

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 20, 2013

Why in the world would a self proclaimed nudist ever want or desire to go to a event like Fantasy Fest to be just nude or topless unless their quest to be nude in a public setting is a fantasy for them? Are they really just "fantasy" nudist's?
Absolute Naturists arrow Has this group's discussions changed your outlook on social nudity?

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 20, 2013

Thanks for the post Oddbutterfly, it is always nice to hear from you no matter what. Also, Thanks to everyone who has given their thoughts. For me this gives validation of value to the time and effort FP and I put into this group for you. My philosphy on sharing is simple, a grain of sand can cause a ripple in the sea which in turn can cause a wave that can create change on a distant shore.
Remember if you ever have a subject you would like to post please do. We are all part of this group and we are all part of it's value and success. Thanks again, SB
Absolute Naturists arrow Has this group's discussions changed your outlook on social nudity?

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 17, 2013

Yes it has. It has given me a better view of exactly how different we can all be but at the same time have a common human ground that we internally desire. I believe it is a spirit within us that calls and that we hear so clearly. Others do not hear the same calling and consequently find it hard to imagine where this desire could originate since it is so opposite of social norms. But yet we still hear it and pursue it.
I have also gained some new and different perspectives and knowledge on some issues that I had not considered or known of before. I think I better understand the struggles some of our members go through to move towards a naturist way of living and just how much courage that takes. It also has given me a clear picture on how far I have moved, since I can recall myself saying many things some of you have said many years back, and wondering if it would ever be possible to live life as a naturist as I do now. By this I am convinced that it is possible for anyone to live the life you so desire if you really and honestly do want it. The drum you hear is your drum and you should listened to if you want to experience a deeper happiness than many others who choose to listen to the chorus.
Thanks for the responses so far... anybody else?
Absolute Naturists arrow Has this group's discussions changed your outlook on social nudity?

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 16, 2013

Have the many discussions we have had here on Absolute Naturists changed your point of view, approach, involvement or anything else in regards to social nudity and/or naturist mindset and if so how?
Just curious, your thoughts and words are appreciated. SB
Absolute Naturists arrow Nudist Elevator Pitches

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 16, 2013

We have had this discussionon in this group before about making up some cards, simple cardstock through your printer or Vista as FP spoke of will accomplish the task. If you rely on your home club to give them to you it probably won't happen and even then it will be only one venue vs other venues in the area and can include AANR & TNS urls where they can get more info on their own time if they are really interested. The bottomlinne in a pitch like the one I made is that they got to see a regular person just like them involved in social nudity. That is how you can set a positive example with very few words. It is a powerful way to promote social nudity without preaching which I hear so many do.
Absolute Naturists arrow Nudist Elevator Pitches

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 16, 2013

... and then she handed him a card with the resort info and with a nice smile she said "see you there and I know you will enjoy yourself".
Mission Accomplished!
Absolute Naturists arrow Nudist Elevator Pitches

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 15, 2013

Hey, anybody want to join me at the nudist resort this weekend?

(That would probably get some interesting looks and maybe some interest)
Texas Nudists and Resorts arrow Nude Bike Rally

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 15, 2013

Thanks Wingman! Appreciate the clarification. Looks like fun, any of you bikers interested in going.... or tell a friend.
Absolute Naturists arrow Should we be proactive regarding Sandy Hook NJ?

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 15, 2013

To your posted question...Absolutely without a doubt. If we continue to be complacent politically correct nudists you will keep loosing your beaches and your rights. Very simple... either you begin o take more agressive proactive stances on these issue or we go back to our "colonies" where these folks think we should be so we casue no harm to the general population and just get over it. Be happy with what you have been allowed in your place of acceptability.

The policy makers are relatively sure that we are probably not going to raise a big political action stink and put ourselves on camera so they continue to provide lip service and take things away from nudists. Many on here are not even willing to tell your family or neighbors that you are a nudist or that you ever visited a nudist beach or venue. They know that. Let's face it, getting the general population to accept social nudity in their daily lives, whether they participate or not, would be and require an extreme change. The complacent garbage of going to the talking heads of capitol hill's, Boards, Commisions, etc. and talking to the folks who are making the laws opposing and not endorsing social nudity is a waste of time at least it has been up to now. If you want change you have to get on the bus and drive it. If you don't you will always just follow the bus and suck the fumes.

Steve, like in NASCAR, getting rubbed is different than getting hit... everyone gets rubbed every now and then in this group and that is what keeps this group active and thinking. Your thoughts and comments are appreciated. SB
Texas Nudists and Resorts arrow Nude Bike Rally

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 15, 2013

Not sure I saw anything to indicate this is clothing optional nor that these folks even get what social nudie is all about. Hootchie yes, nudie no. Looks like a typical biker get together to me. Maybe you can enlighten us on this?
Clothing Optional Bed & Breakfasts arrow What is a C-O B&B... a B&B or a Mini-Resort?

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 14, 2013

The cat get's grouchy...
Clothing Optional Bed & Breakfasts arrow What is a C-O B&B... a B&B or a Mini-Resort?

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 14, 2013

As I am reading the other threads, some people are treating these B&Bs as destinations. Sort of a couples get-away place. Personally I like that because I think couples need a place to get-away from daily home life and rejuvinate their relationships or celebrate occasions (BDs, Anniv., etc.). I think that would be my leaning if I was to open one. It would still meet the B&B zoning issues and provide a service that would be pretty unique. This is something not readily found in communities. To stop at this type of venue while traveling to your end destination does not make a lot of sense to me nor does the 2-night minimum. C-O has welcomed us to stay with her numerous times since we do travel through her area when we are traveling between our to summer/winter home locations but the car is packed and we are jammin' to get there. Normally driving 500 miles a day and at the end of that you just want to crash, get up early have a quick cheap breakfast and go again. Especially if you are traveling with pet or two. If the area where the B&B is IS your destination like for a football game, car show/race or work well then that would make more sense. So it appears to me that they are a mini-resort operating as a B&B. Si o No?
Clothing Optional Bed & Breakfasts arrow CO or Nude... what works best for a B&B?

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 14, 2013

I like the discussion but it is getting off the thread. we are leaning towards B&B vs Mini-resort. Should we take it over to that thread?
I think the answer to this question has been answered (leave it open and comfortable to all guests with the owners setting the tone) although I still think there is room for owners to chime in.

FireProf: I would love to but currently living on a boat and in a resort would not work. I always keep it as a possibility for the future. I think what C-O has set up provides a wonderful opportunity to give it a go if you have accomodations and the personality to do it.
Clothing Optional Bed & Breakfasts arrow CO or Nude... what works best for a B&B?

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 14, 2013

Totally agree Firez on both counts and this has been an enlightening discussion. I think it would be really good to have updates on how the concept and actual B&B's are developing. Is that possible C-O?
Clothing Optional Bed & Breakfasts arrow CO or Nude... what works best for a B&B?

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 13, 2013

Well alrighty then, exactly what I was thinking on the subject. Thanks CO and SoCal for confiriming what I believed would be the best way to approach it and one that I can totaly agree with. With my leanings towards naturism I am always inclined to drop labeling (CO vs Nude) and just go with comfort and naturalness. I do see the B&B as a potential bridge but also a place where a couple can have a more relaxing weekend together without the typical homelife stresses. You really can't do that in a club type environment. You don't have to be traveling to take advantage of this either in my opinion. For local community folks to be able to have a place to go where they can feel safe, free of judgement and encouraged to enjoy the simple naturalness of humanity is great.
Clothing Optional Bed & Breakfasts arrow CO or Nude... what works best for a B&B?

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 12, 2013

I was hoping to hear from some actual B&B owners and their experiences. I felt fairly certain I would get the divide from those who may patronize a B&B which may well be the answer. If that is the case, is flexibility the answer?
NorthWest Outdoor Nudists arrow Bicycle Rides... what is happening to them?

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 11, 2013

Outside of Seattle, what is going on with nude bicycle rides in WA?
Absolute Naturists arrow Artistic Nude Photography... what is it?

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 11, 2013

When viewing artistically portrayed Nude Photgraphic images, what is it that you see and how would you described it?

Texas Nudists and Resorts arrow Nude Beaches in Texas Updates

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 11, 2013

Are there any updates or new experiences regarding nude tolerant beaches in Texas. I was asked again recently and frankly my answer was as wishy washy as the nude laws in TX. Can anybody shed some light please.
Clothing Optional Bed & Breakfasts arrow CO or Nude... what works best for a B&B?

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 11, 2013

If I was considering opening a Bed & Breakfast, would it be better to set it as a clothing optional or nude only? What do the experiences lean towards and why?
Texas Nudists and Resorts arrow Understanding Nudity Laws in Texas

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 2, 2013

Does anybody have any new info or experiences with this subject?
Absolute Naturists arrow Rangers said the decision is final.

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 1, 2013

Totally agree Fiesco, that is what driving the bus is all about. But how do we make that happen?

FP, now that I think of it I think it is Textiles 4 Nudists 0 (include Bates beach on Ventura/Santa Barbara CO.Line in CA. I use to go there when I was in Cally. ok ok...

So how do we begin to do what Fiesco stated?
Absolute Naturists arrow Rangers said the decision is final.

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 1, 2013

FireProf here is a thought about that... East Coast vs West Coast. I am becoming more convinced that AANR is not in touch with West Coast Nudism.
As for the shutting down, Textile's 1 - Nudist's 0 ... game over and the beat go's on. Once again we are chasing the bus rather than driving it.
Absolute Naturists arrow Are Nudist's Really Free Spirits?

SunBunny

Posted: Feb 26, 2013

I don't think I know anyone who isn't weighted from time to time by everyday troubles or challenges of life...but how they process the muck of it is what makes the difference in my opinion between free spirited or not. Some just choose to get buried in it and stay in it, some prefer to hang out with like people and perpetually spin in the muck and then there are those who deal with it and move on. They refuse to continually carry the weight. They also refuse to carry the weight of social demands and norms. They go to the beat of their own drum. They just deal with junk and move on. To me that is what free-spirited is all about and it is a mindset. I don't think the fact of being a nudist has any bearing on it. People are people whether they prefer to be clothed or nude. It is like saying nudist are all cool, and we know that's not true.
NorthWest Outdoor Nudists arrow Summer is coming... any new plans?

SunBunny

Posted: Feb 23, 2013

It won't be long before spring and summer arrive. Any plans for doing something new and interesting? Visit somewhere new? Let's hear from everyone.
Absolute Naturists arrow If it was YOUR resort: the philosophy and policies

SunBunny

Posted: Feb 20, 2013

Good question...
I would create a utopian community where everyone was allowed to live as they choose. The rules would be simply that they must be respectful to everyone in the community, appreciate and enjoy the many human diversities within the community, contribute to the community's well being and be happy and loving people. You can be nude as you choose. You can be dressed as you choose.
It would be a community of acceptance.
I think when you start drawing lines in the sand about being nude or CO you cause division and remove the philosphy of acceptance. Respect and acceptance would be the only rule or law. You did say a "gazillion" right....
Absolute Naturists arrow Are Nudist's Really Free Spirits?

SunBunny

Posted: Feb 20, 2013

Are nudist's "Free Spirits" in their nature? Some claim this is the case but many actual nudist discussions and actions seem to point in the opposite direction. What do you think?
Absolute Naturists arrow Textile friends and naturism

SunBunny

Posted: Feb 7, 2013

I am not sure where you came up with MY Philosphy being NAKED or BUST.... I don't believe I ever said that. To me that would be akin to keep banging your head on the wall because it actually feels good. That is just DUMB as is your take on what you think my philosphy is. C'monnnnn.
My philosphy relating to naturism is that it is a natural part of life and we should not bring the shame equation or sexualization into it EVER. That is why I consider myself an ABSOLUTE NATURIST. In addition, I am on the record as disagreeing with the use of the word NAKED when it come to naturistic expressions.
ok, How you express your desire to be nudist/naturist among those you associate with is your call. Your associates are all different in their perceptions of nudism/naturism. You should expect different reactions. My true friends (friends and associates are different) know exactly how I feel about naturism and how I believe that it is a natural and positive part of life. I don't need to parade around nude in front of them to demonstate how I feel about it. It is an intellectual and philosphical thing and should never be mixed up with what could be construed with exhibitionism. They sometimes come to me with questions as the resident expert (I don't consider myself one but I do have many resources and experiences) regarding social nudity/naturism and I am happy to answer their questions as best I can. To me that is the best way to entwine social nudity/naturism with "textile" friends. We were all probably considered textile at some point in our life. Think about your expereince with that and where you are now. Always Be The Example... now that is my philosphy. Get it right!
Absolute Naturists arrow Lighthouse Beach (NY-USA) No Longer Nude

SunBunny

Posted: Feb 6, 2013

When I read this letter, my first thought was... so who screwed up the long time use of responsible social beach nudity. It was the same folks who screwed up San Fran. It was the same folks who did not differentiate social nudity/naturism from a sexualized mentality or agenda. They even said it in the letter. They knew who it was. While the letter did try to give credit to the many who used and supported the beach responsibly the action did not follow that and reduced the sincerity of the statement to PC Gobbly Gook BS. The action was the same, it made social nudity a crime rather than focusing the action of the real offenders of sexual and health issue crime. I am sad to see this action. I hope nudists and naturist alike take this as another erosion of clothing optional beach use.
Absolute Naturists arrow Absolute

SunBunny

Posted: Feb 6, 2013

One word that I always read in most discussion on public nudity is "harmful". That seems to me to be an absolute and most people off the top of their head reactions is fear. That is an absolute as well. While I agree that we percieve ourselves to live in a pluristic world of no absolutes, I think there are. Many times I think we perpetuate those negative concepts by the continued use of words such as harmful which is absolutely a word of many definitions in perception.
Absolute Naturists arrow Who started the need or requirement to wear clothes?

SunBunny

Posted: Feb 6, 2013

What makes this group somewhat unique and definitely more interesting than almost any group in NC is the concept of encouraging "honest and challenging discussions on social nudity" as written in the group mantra and strongly supported by the group moderators. Remember, these are open discussions and not personal mockeries or attacks. If this is not your cup of tea you are always free to leave.

To me this is the type of topic that makes us THINK rather than just ACCEPT. Many of you are doing exactly that and I appreciate it. SB
Absolute Naturists arrow Who started the need or requirement to wear clothes?

SunBunny

Posted: Feb 4, 2013

Cave men wore cover ups? Cave women wore Cover ups for tops and bottoms? Adam & Eve wore clothes after eating the apple? Really? I mean Really... do you know that for a fact. Were you there to actually see and witness that -OR- did you see that in pictures and read it in words drawn and written by modern man. Seems to me there are many here who are simply buying into Blind Faith rather than questioning it. Seems to me when the Spanish Padres came over to the New World they brought their puritan crap with them and taught the natives the concept of shame. If they had not done that we might be living in a different old world. Did I say the CHURCH messed this up... I think I did, and they still do.
Absolute Naturists arrow Will the San Franciso debacle impact social nudity?

SunBunny

Posted: Feb 4, 2013

AANR and NAC a offshoot of TNS DID get involved but they did not (nor have ever) lead the concept of social public nudity being accepted within communities. I am not sure why they felt compelled to join in on this gay led campaign. The word Nudist was exploited in this debacle and they helped. They whole thing was a Cluster F... in my opinion.
Absolute Naturists arrow Will the San Franciso debacle impact social nudity?

SunBunny

Posted: Feb 3, 2013

Jansen, I could not agree with your more on your statement.... "But I believe the debacle in SF gives people an even stronger motive to "protect themselves" from "nudists". IMHO, AANR and TNS would do well to distance themselves and mainstream nudism/naturism from the activists in SF.".

I have said this from the begining. The SF issue was and still is the natuirst/nudist worst nightmare.
If the nudist organizations really think nudity should be allowed then why not use all their expertise and history to make it happen. INSTEAD they follow the Castro Gay Community which was totally sexual from the get go. How stupid was that... and they still want to continue. They are perpetuating the media exploitation that nudists are homosexual and sexual deviants/exhibitionists in the general publics mindset. How very very dumb and gutless is this.
Absolute Naturists arrow What part of naturism do textiles not understand?

SunBunny

Posted: Feb 3, 2013

What part of the quest to live a healthy naturist life does the textile population not understand and consequently tend to demonize?
Your thoughts please.

(Pipermac, this is replacing your previous posted topic. I think it leads to the same point you were trying to make.)
Absolute Naturists arrow Who started the need or requirement to wear clothes?

SunBunny

Posted: Feb 3, 2013

Capping on a previous topic/post about textiles not getting naturism/nudism I thought it would be a good idea to go back to the root of the issue.
So who started the need or requirement to cover our bodies with clothing and why? Go for it folkss!
Absolute Naturists arrow Will the San Franciso debacle impact social nudity?

SunBunny

Posted: Feb 1, 2013

Will the San Francisco public nudity debacle have a positive or negative (or any) effect on social nudity and community nudity acceptance becoming a reality?
Your thoughts please.
Absolute Naturists arrow Nudism vs Exhibitionism

SunBunny

Posted: Feb 1, 2013

By being real and honest examples as you are doing. By not hiding behind all those lame excuses or hiding in the closets. By having the courage and coviction to live our lives as we deem apropriate, by our standards and not others or the "Church". By not being exhibitionist and making our desire to live positive and natural a reality and not a once in a while joke.
That's what I think anyway...
Absolute Naturists arrow Main barriers to an excepted nudist movement.

SunBunny

Posted: Jan 31, 2013

Piper... did you just say 'like I am" in relation to being in the closet.
If nudists/naturist stay in the closet what they are saying is I am ashamed of being a nudist or I am afraid the church is going to kicked me out. I must be a sinner. That continues to give creedence to those opposing the nudist movement. That is a powerful barrier and it is being fueled by closeted nudists. Interesting....
Absolute Naturists arrow Main barriers to an excepted nudist movement.

SunBunny

Posted: Jan 31, 2013

...and if I may add one more; Maybe the majority of those who identify themselves as nudists/naturists are of an age where they don't use or even like Facebook.
I am a good example, I don't need to "like" anything nudist/naturist on Facebook just to let folks I don't even know how I feel. I think some see it as a badge of merit, probably becasue they don't live it. On-line things like FB are just more barriers for people to live their nudist fantasy indoors. To really appreciate nudism/naturism you need to get out in the sunshine and fresh air. BTW, I dumped my Facebook account, it has no value to me.
NorthWest Outdoor Nudists arrow Oregonians

SunBunny

Posted: Jan 30, 2013

This is great...I think it is so good that we are finding more local community through the group. Keep it up.
Absolute Naturists arrow Why do SO MANY Nudists make SO MANY excuses to not live nude?

SunBunny

Posted: Jan 29, 2013

Armadillo... I guess you missed the words in my post: (as much as possible). Stop the nitpicking and get on to the real sbject if you can.
Thanks to all you others who are taking the time to understand the point of the question. It does have to do with introspection and if you correlate that to the quote I posted in the other recent topic about Naturism it begins to make even more sense, at least from my viewpoint.

(BTW Armadillo, you also missed the point of TXBikers post. I have removed your last post as a result of your assault and rudeness. In the past you have made some constructive and informative comment. Not sure what is going on now. That's 2.)

Absolute Naturists arrow Absolute NATURISM... what is it?

SunBunny

Posted: Jan 28, 2013

“Naturism is about being free enough in our surroundings to be able to feel the wind, or the sun, or water without the pervasive feeling that we must be clothed to enjoy this much pleasure in our lives. It is also about living and sharing this experience with everyone and everything around you. It's just about being yourself.. 'naturally'.. in a beautiful natural setting with nature surrounding and holding us in it's arms. ” (Quoted from iNAKED

I think this quote speaks to EXACTLY the type of person that this group is for. Recreatonal nudity and club only nudity is different. What do you think?
Absolute Naturists arrow Nudist Elevator Pitches

SunBunny

Posted: Jan 24, 2013

Share with us what you think would be your BEST Elevator Pitch to promote social nudity or naturism. Remember it is usually limited to about 15 seconds, sometimes longer but not much. Go For It!
(Thanks for the idea MarcNude)
NorthWest Outdoor Nudists arrow How do you like to Camp Out?

SunBunny

Posted: Jan 23, 2013

So what is your idea of camping out or as they say "Roughing It"?
Absolute Naturists arrow Why do SO MANY Nudists make SO MANY excuses to not live nude?

SunBunny

Posted: Jan 22, 2013

If this question is "Elitist" you have your head in a cornfield. Give me a break. This is a real type situation that happens very much and you don't need to livein a high priced resort to understand that...geez, how dumb.
Nudony, I think we are on the sme wave length. As FireProf said earlier the key word is fear (of whtever) and that requires lots of introspection. That is what this topic was all about. It is about getting real with ourselves. This group is about living nude...LIVING NUDE, get it. We all have hurdles that we need to get over before you can do that. My main fear many years ago was wat woluld some of my good friends think if they knew I preferred to live nude. It was my fear. After long thought, I got over it and you know what, my friends are still my friends. Being very open about my living nude (as much as possible) is a freeing experience. If you live your life based on what others think, you are missing life. There is nothing elitist about that.
Absolute Naturists arrow Gay Marriage: How will it affect Nudist Clubs/Venues?

SunBunny

Posted: Jan 14, 2013

I hear eveything you are saying Sky, I agree with you on most of it and I hope and pray you are correct and your words and thoughts are heeded, at least someday.
From my personal experiences nudists and nudist venues owners are all over the map. Some are good with it, some are not. All nudists are not cool or flexible, let's never forget that. Why, I think FireProf spoke to that quite correctly and honestly in his earlier post.
Absolute Naturists arrow Social Nudity vs Marijuana Use

SunBunny

Posted: Jan 14, 2013

Which means to say if large social nudity representative organizations such as AANR would stop roping off social nudity to only "appropriate places" then it would help or begin to reduce the fear of social nudity as has happened with homosexuality... right?
If so I agree. The more openly discussed an issue is the more informed and educated we become and our fears of/on the issue are minimized significantly. Just makes sense.
Absolute Naturists arrow The Alicia Silverstone story

SunBunny

Posted: Jan 14, 2013

This speaks in many ways to what I was getting at exactly. Thanks for the post and picking up on that Nudony, appreciate it much.
I read something a few days ago that specifically spoke to people, including some nudists, being internally afraid to be nude anywhere outside of their personal domain. This included even speaking about their social nude enjoyment publically. What struck me about it is that it was their own internal fear and not external fears. They were really afraid to do it. Like speaking in public and shaking in your boots (Uggs). I had never really considered that factor before since for me it is a non-issue. I like eye-openers like that, makes me think (especially when it's cold and I can't go out and play.
I don't think Woody Harrelson gives a rat butt but that is what self-confidence is all about. It is a shame that she didn't want to at least wave the banner a little bit. Every and any discussion such as that does help people begin to understand that it is not that big of a deal or weird. I think it would be good to ask ourselves if we are afraid of being nude or openly talking about our choice to be a nudist/naturist in a public setting/media. Not looking for and actually don't want your personal answers, just think about it for your own personal introspective. Sounds like that was Alicia's situation.
Absolute Naturists arrow Why do SO MANY Nudists make SO MANY excuses to not live nude?

SunBunny

Posted: Jan 13, 2013

Oh No, not the "real" nudist discussion again.
If it walks like a Duck, quacks like a Duck and acts like a Duck...I think it must be a Duck. Just my real "realist" nudist perspective on Nudist "Colonies", oh sorry I mean "Resorts". PC BS.
Thanks to everyone so far on your willingness to give your thougths on this challenging and thought provoking subject.
SB
Absolute Naturists arrow Social Nudity vs Marijuana Use

SunBunny

Posted: Jan 13, 2013

I was thinking about this because my home state, Washington, just recently passed a law "decriminalizing" recreational use of MJ. Yet they hold fairly firm on social nudity not being acceptable nor "legal". Even topfree doesn't work. This decrimalizing won't change my habits, I lost to many brain cells back in the 60's and now have to hold on to all I got, whatever. Anyway more often than not, MJ use is casually discussed by all walks of people and usually ends in a chuckle and admission of use once upon a time. No big deal. However Social Nudity discussions tend to make people uncomfortable at the get go. You can sense the body language tighting. Nobody tends to readily admit to it (except me for sure) for fears of losing acceptance. All I can assume is that it must be the sex and body shame thing playing into peoples minds. Maybe we all should get mellowed out and dump the clothes. Don't forget the munchies.
CO_Home, yes it is cold in Texas right now so go figure.
Absolute Naturists arrow Why do SO MANY Nudists make SO MANY excuses to not live nude?

SunBunny

Posted: Jan 13, 2013

I didn't ask what your excuse was, I ask why do you think so many nudistss make excuses to not live nude. C'mon, put some thought into it!

My thought is that it is easier to walk downhill rather than uphill. While this is definitely true, the problem with that is all you will see and experience is what you have already experienced. Essentially the majority of nudists are "older" and no longer willing to fight the good fight. As Hill Billy spoke to, they are not willing to take a chance on losing what they have or potentially risk their social status in their community. They are apathetic and tired to a large degree. Consequently I believe they readily accept the concept that nudity is only acceptable in appropriate place... like the nudist colony.
Absolute Naturists arrow What are the Biggest Nudist Issues to resolve/fix in 2013?

SunBunny

Posted: Jan 12, 2013

Getting Nudists who are not Nudists to stop calling themselves Nudists. It's just not cool and total BS. All they do is handout their little distorted fantasy of what they think social nudity is to folks who don't know anything about it and hurt us all. Very dumb.
Absolute Naturists arrow Why do people wear clothes?

SunBunny

Posted: Jan 12, 2013

Back to the original question posed:
Why do people wear clothes?
Nobody ever said people were smart or logical. Actually I think most folks are pretty dumb and only live in their itty bitty worlds. From my experiences, the majority of everyday type people I encounter have the heard mentality so they would not even think about not wearing clothes and forget about having the courage to not wear clothes. Thank goodness there are a few of us who can hear the different drum. I say Let them be offended!
By the way, my experience has also shown me that many nudists also have the heard mentality and I totally agree with you on "I think that damn near everyone would love being nude if they just tried it".
Absolute Naturists arrow Social Nudity vs Marijuana Use

SunBunny

Posted: Jan 12, 2013

Why do many people have liberal views on the use of marijuana YET get so uptight when it comes to social nudity? There are many arguements about the addiction and health impacts of using MJ. I haven't heard to many on social nudity... heaven forbid we should become addicted to social nudity.
Your thoughts please.
NorthWest Outdoor Nudists arrow Winterizing?

SunBunny

Posted: Jan 12, 2013

hmmmm, seems to me the answer was pretty clear...NOTHING! Not even making snow angels.
I still find it difficult to believe that the NorthWest is anything close to a hotspot for social nudity. I think the geese have it right.
Anybody NOT agree???
Absolute Naturists arrow Why do SO MANY Nudists make SO MANY excuses to not live nude?

SunBunny

Posted: Jan 12, 2013

Why do so many nudists make so many excuses as to why they can't live nude lives? I just don't get it. Not looking for "the law won't let me" type responses, it would just be another excuse, really it would be. Think about it and gives us your thoughts.
Texas Nudists and Resorts arrow Does Texas Lifestyle & Culture have an Impact on Social Nudity?

SunBunny

Posted: Jan 12, 2013

How or does the lifestyle and diverse cultures in Texas have an impact on social nudity in Texas?

Does not seem like much going on...
Your thoughts please.
Absolute Naturists arrow What are the Biggest Nudist Issues to resolve/fix in 2013?

SunBunny

Posted: Jan 5, 2013

There are many HUGE issues needed to be overcome so how about a potential Baby Step.... getting nudist to be open about their nudity. To not be ashamed of being nudists? To get their heads straight and start acting and treating like social nudity as a normal thing to do and way to be.
That seem to me like the easiest path of less resistance... or is it?
Texas Nudists and Resorts arrow Being a nudist

SunBunny

Posted: Jan 5, 2013

I guess a bug hitting you biking nude would be kinda the same as bacon spatter when your cooking... ouch! yep, been there done that.
BUT...
Being a nudist is so many things to so many people. Some like to be nude only at home to the other side of life living at a nudist venue and being nude almost always or at least whenever you choose. Seems to me that if you understand whta being a nudist is at a core level then it doesn't matter how you desire to express your nudity. What do you think?
Absolute Naturists arrow What are the Biggest Nudist Issues to resolve/fix in 2013?

SunBunny

Posted: Jan 3, 2013

What do you think/believe to be the biggest or most important issues related to social nudity that we should try to resolve or fix in 2013? Let's just think outloud on this one. Thanks!
Texas Nudists and Resorts arrow Nude Plans for a Nude Year

SunBunny

Posted: Jan 3, 2013

What are your nude plans for 2013?
NorthWest Outdoor Nudists arrow Making 2013 a better year for social nudity better in the NW?

SunBunny

Posted: Jan 3, 2013

What do you think we can do to make social/recreational nudity in the NW better in 2013? Any thoughts or ideas welcomed...
Absolute Naturists arrow Internet issues

SunBunny

Posted: Dec 25, 2012

Thanks for the response Brian. I hope this answers any questions or frustration our members have had. You can always contact NCH staff with concerns by using the "Contact" menu item on the bottom of any NCH page.
I will be deleting this thread shortly since the issue has been addressed.
SB
Absolute Naturists arrow Internet issues

SunBunny

Posted: Dec 24, 2012

I have also noticed the slow downs and login problems over the last couple of days. I have reported it to the NCH staff. I am sure they are working on it. Please be patient.
SB
Absolute Naturists arrow Promoting nudism: as a nude or C/O activity?

SunBunny

Posted: Dec 23, 2012

"When I convinced myself"... well said. That was my point exactly. Any amount of discussion in either vain, be it c/o or nude, will only fall on deaf ears until the person is ready to do it themselves. I give them a perspective as an example. I don't state which is better nor give an opinion. They will choose how to place that in their reality as they feel appropriate. Until then it is a waste of breath. Promoting is basically selling. All I said is be an example. Let them buy what they want. If you choose to "promote" nudism from what you beleive is a path of least resistence then you have merely offered your personal bias and not represented nudism as a whole. I am not looking for agreement, merely stating how I view the question.
Absolute Naturists arrow Promoting nudism: as a nude or C/O activity?

SunBunny

Posted: Dec 23, 2012

I think if you talk about it from either perspective then you have missed the entire point of living nude or being an absolute naturist. All that has occurred is promoting the crap of being nude in an appropriate place. The crap of being appropriate and conforming to nudist etiquette. The crap of living your life as has been deemed correct by the religous world.

I think the best way to promote social nudity is to be the example. I live nude because I prefer it and it works best for me. I am not a bad or crazy person. I am not a pervert. I don't kiss moss or hug trees. I am honest and caring. Most anybody that I would have a conversation with about nudity would instantly get the point that there is nothing WRONG or embarassing with being nude. It is a way of life that is natural and without shame. Being nude is a natural way to be. To do this it must be real and organic within your beief system. If it isn't, it is just words and simply BS. Also by doing anything else you begin to segment nudity into varieties, bring judgement about it, to sexualize it and create levels of acceptance of human beings as they are. Maybe that is the real difference between naturists and nudists. I consider myself to be a naturist at the core, better yet an Absolute Naturist. I live nude without any shame or pretense. Yes I have to conform to the textile world but I don't have to agree with it. Promote by example and nothing else if you really are interested in promoting social nudity as a way of living.
Absolute Naturists arrow Gay Marriage: How will it affect Nudist Clubs/Venues?

SunBunny

Posted: Dec 18, 2012

I have to say that from my experience most clubs/venues members are not yet able to handle to males holding hands or giving each other a gesture of loving affection whether they are nude or not. It has always been different when you see two women doing it. It is easier to accept the visualization of two women kissing verses two men kissing. Lets be real about that.
Maybe the clubs will relax their rules about same sex couples but the MEMBERSHIP will continue to be a problem as long as nudity is equated with sex. At many clubs there is still issues with racial bias and discrimination, how long has that been unlawful... just being real.
Absolute Naturists arrow Why are on-line nudist's insecure with nudist status?

SunBunny

Posted: Dec 18, 2012

Why are on-line nudists so insecure with their nudity status?
Almost in every on-line discussion or thread there is a prevailing school of one upmanship and judgement. Why? Your thoughts please.
Absolute Naturists arrow Who is the better nudist?

SunBunny

Posted: Dec 18, 2012

I am not sure that LOL is appropriate. I believe it was made in frustration which I totally understand and agree with. LOL minimizes what I have been seeing going on in this thread. Once again some members of the group have taken it personal no matter how subtle their responses have been in that regard. I am really perplexed as to why this occurs but it does relate to my earlier post. The original question is "Who is the better nudist?". It was not I am a better nudist than you because blah blah blah. In a group that is supposed to be for people who at their core understand and want to live in a absolute nude world, why does such insecurity with nudism seem to prevail. I will leave you to ponder that question. Better yet I will post it as a topic and you can give your thoughts.
I knew, as Nudony did, that this topic might possibility lead to controversy or better yet significant angst but I thought that it would be a good topic because the online nudist community is filled with such judgemental discussions. It would be a good way to flesh out how "absolute" nudists put such silly questions into context. Needless to say, I am a little dissapointed.
I would like this thread to continue with a bigger picture viewpoint if possible.
Absolute Naturists arrow Who is the better nudist?

SunBunny

Posted: Dec 16, 2012

I think anyone who says they are a better nudist than someone else has self esteem issues. If you are confident and comfortable in what you do or how you do it... who cares. There is room for everyone in the pool.
To comment on things I have heard said in this regard they usually come from wannabes or closet nudists who feel a need to establish themselves as nudists. Pounding of the chest so to speak. People who have been practicing nudism for years can see right through it and it really looks stupid.
Absolute Naturists arrow Questions About Nudity Without Expected Answers

SunBunny

Posted: Dec 14, 2012

A follow up on what led me to this post:
Yesterday I handed the physical therapists a few older copies of the AANR Bulletin. I ask them if they would be interested in reading them before doing so. They enthusiastically said yes which was far from the first semi-negative response. Obviously planting the seed and allowing it to germinate worked.
This in a way go's back to my card handing method listing websites when someone asks me about. it really seems like a natural way to approach human nature... hmmmm, naturally natural.
Absolute Naturists arrow Gay Marriage: How will it affect Nudist Clubs/Venues?

SunBunny

Posted: Dec 14, 2012

How will Gay marriage affect nudist clubs and venues? Your thoughts please.
NorthWest Outdoor Nudists arrow Are you having a Nude Christmas?

SunBunny

Posted: Dec 8, 2012

Are you planning on have a nude Christmas?

I am!
Absolute Naturists arrow Nudists and their clothing choices

SunBunny

Posted: Dec 8, 2012

Nowdays, a simple sun dress is all the cover-up I ever do when I have to venture into the textile world. Nothing underneath. No bra line or panty lines. I think the guys at the home improvement store have figured it out and are always very helpful when I am shopping there.
Absolute Naturists arrow Questions About Nudity Without Expected Answers

SunBunny

Posted: Dec 8, 2012

What are your thoughts about posing questions to non-nudists without expecting or asking for an answer?

ok, let me explain. The other day I was having a conversation with a couple of textile physical therapists about social nudity. While they were not freaked out about social nudity they did not understand why someone would want to live nude nor could they see themselves being nude among others. Instead of posing (or bagering) them with questions with expected answers I just said, "think about what feelings you have within yourself that would prevent you from participating in social nudity" and ended it with please don't anser that to me, just think about it. Whether that was good or bad, I don't know... I just decided to do it that way. So back to the original question:
What are your thoughts about posing questions to non-nudists without expecting or asking for an answer?
Absolute Naturists arrow On The Lighter Side-PUNCH LINE Quiz #2.

SunBunny

Posted: Dec 8, 2012

Tommy, thanks for the fun post.
By the way, that someone who posted the pastie lady topic was me.
Texas Nudists and Resorts arrow Merry Christmas vs Happy Holidays

SunBunny

Posted: Dec 8, 2012

Here in Texas, is it "Merry Christmas" or "Happy Holidays"? Your thoughts please...

A lot of controversy is occuring over the terms and associated beliefs. There seems to be a geographical leaning involved. Not trying to start a holy war, just curious what you think about it.
Absolute Naturists arrow "Nudism is not about seeing or being seen."

SunBunny

Posted: Dec 2, 2012

I believe your question was: does the idiom "nudism is not about being seen or seeing" still make rational sense?
To me the simple answer of course it makes sense. Thats how we deal with living nude every day. If you live it 24/7 it is not hard to understand. If you do not live it, then I would say it is a very real occurence and it doesn't matter if it makes sense or not becasue it happens. I have seen the nude women wearing high heels and the macho men flexing and strolling the pool...they are there to be seen. seems to me if you are there with the forethought to be seen you are also looking and checking out others. I think these are the people that would rationialize it as not occurng to cover the action. If you live it you can spot it a mile away. I don't try to put it in any logical context because it is just nonsense.
Absolute Naturists arrow On The Lighter Side-PUNCH LINE Quiz #2.

SunBunny

Posted: Nov 28, 2012

I was kind or wondering if that was "Pastry" also and not pasty. Can you give is a heads up. I have a great answer for the pastry wording.
Absolute Naturists arrow On The Lighter Side-PUNCH LINE Quiz #2.

SunBunny

Posted: Nov 27, 2012

1. What does a nudist tell the judge in court?
>I have nothing to hide.
2. What does a nudist do in winter weather?
>Chill
3. What do you call a Pasty Lady at a nudist resort?
>Sticky
4. Why did the nudist cross the road?
>Becasue he didn't want to be called a chicken.
Absolute Naturists arrow Topless Equalty

SunBunny

Posted: Nov 23, 2012

The basic premise of equal rights for men and women is almost beyound basic understanding and simplicity. YET the female breast remains outside of the equation and the laws, courts, and enforcement organization can't understand that. You can't fix stupid... but you can teach your children that breast are not sexual, maybe we can begin to fix the proliferation of stupid at that level.
Absolute Naturists arrow New Mexico's Nude Law vs San Francisco's New Nude Law

SunBunny

Posted: Nov 23, 2012

Not sure what the question was in the original topic BUT I think the message is how nudity can be viewed by law can be so different in one state verses another when the nudity remains the same. To me that is an easy one, geographic social norms and perspectives vary significantly. Guess who makes the law. Try opening a nudist resort in a bible belt community. Not gonna happen.

Again, the San Francisco thing was based in the Castro District which Supervisor Weiner represents. It is primarily populated by gay men who are not nudists. As I have said before, the whole SF thing was not about being supportive of nude living but rather accomodating the gay district wishes by Sup. Weiner. Politically I doubt he is going anywhere. If you really think about what most textiles think about nudists, this is just one more thing that the nudist organization gave them to add to the artillery against us. No... nudist aren't all gay either nor do they all wear cock rings and spikes.

If nudists are really serious about changing the way people think about accepting nude living as a legal and positive way of living in any community or state, do it on our own merits and not under the rainbow flag.
NorthWest Outdoor Nudists arrow Venturing to Warmer Climes

SunBunny

Posted: Nov 17, 2012

There are a few other places that you don't have to be rich to move to and warm up. It gets cold in Palm Springs beleive it or not.
I have friends that are still working but plan and take their vacations in the winter months and go where it is warm. Like Hidden Beach in Mexico. I think that is a good idea because it gets you out of the frostbite doldrums. From my personal experience, the Washington winters are depressing and even more so if you are a nudist.
Absolute Naturists arrow Nudists and their clothing choices

SunBunny

Posted: Nov 17, 2012

I hear you Roller, the other day I went to the local Pizza Hut and a young woman walk in and I swear her pants were so tight she was smiling from top to bottom. When this happens it always begs the qustion in my head, what is the difference between that and nude... you are seeing almost everything anyway and even in a much more provacative manner.
As to another point I was making earlier, most business schools and consultants will always use the phrase "Dress for Success" when trying to teach good business practices and etiquette. Why is that? Does it just sound good. Like it or not, people will judge you on how you look. Ask any Hobo with a Ph.D., they will tell you. It is pretty much a fact also that people act in accordance with how they are dressed. Formal will act formal, smartly will act smartly, trendy will act trendy, casual will act casual, so forth and so forth. It just happens. Clothes are communication for many people. That is what I like about being a nudist and being around nudists, we rely on ourselves for communication. Makes it more real.
Texas Nudists and Resorts arrow Whats new at yor nudist hangout?

SunBunny

Posted: Nov 17, 2012

Since nobody has responded to this topic, does that men nude life is dead in TX? Nothing happening anywhere? Really?
Absolute Naturists arrow Nudists and their clothing choices

SunBunny

Posted: Nov 16, 2012

This discussion has brought up another thought about our clothing choices. Not a different topic, just a different thought or angle. There is a big difference between clean, comfortable and casual and dirty, messy and sloppy. How we dress, when we do, has an effect on how we act. At least I think so. If we dress sloppy, we act sloppy. If we dress smartly, we act smartly. This does not mean trendy, I think trendy is dumb. As a nudist, to me clothing does not carry the same importance as with the textile world. Considering this, I think it is important that we do not fall into the being sloppy and unkept mindset when we do dress. All we have to do is look into a mirror, is your t-shirt on backwards or is your dinner still on it. Again, just a thought...
Absolute Naturists arrow Nudists and their clothing choices

SunBunny

Posted: Nov 15, 2012

Since I am no longer in the formal workplace the need for that type of clothing is no longer a priority. Nowdays I choose comfort and simplicity. In that vain I usually shop from the sales racks where I usually find quality at a good price. I do have nice clothes in the closet for use at the gigs we do and for when a dress up affair calls for. I like to look nice, makes me feel good.
Again,and especially when you live in a nudist venue, clothes are not a priority. Actually I find myself in disbelief when I thumb through a trendy fashion magazine and see the cost factor of some of the clothes that are in style for(and only) the season. Gee Willakers.
Absolute Naturists arrow Absolute Naturist Topics - the Good, Bad and the Ugly

SunBunny

Posted: Nov 15, 2012

Thank you both for the comment. These comments are perfectly on track with what I was trying to get at. It has been my experience as well that the word "you" is not the best to use in any discussion since it directs conversation in a personalized manner. I am guilty of using it but I try not to. The advice on stepping back before responding is always a good idea anytime. Again, thank you. Anybody else have a comment?

I am looking forward to having some good topics/subjects from everyone in the near future.
Absolute Naturists arrow Absolute Naturist Topics - the Good, Bad and the Ugly

SunBunny

Posted: Nov 14, 2012

What makes a good topic for us all to discuss? Many things, but how we craft them is sometimes even more important. It is what makes the dir=fference between the good and the bad or ugly. We are the most active and fastest growing group on NCH. Your active participation has contributed to that and I thank all of you for that.

I have always encouraged members to post topics. I think this is a good time to cover how I beleive we should do this. A good start is to review the many topics on here already. They are pretty good examples to follow. Here are a few basic guidelines to follow:

> Always try to ask a question upfront that members can respond to. This would be in the title and the first line of the post.

>Ask for responses or thoughts before stating your position. There is plenty of time for that later in the topic post life.

>Do not use your topic and as platform for your beleifs. You have opportunity to express your beleifs in responding to topics.

>Be respectful. This does not mean being politically correct all the time. Words are powerful tools, use them carefully.

Ok, that's about it. If there are other things that you think would be helpful additions on this topic please express them. Your thoughts are welcome also. This group is about naturism and nudism. However, we are people also with many interests other than social nudity. I encourage you to every so often re-read the mantra and try to follow it in all you do, post and respond.
Thank you, SB
Absolute Naturists arrow Children Raised As Nudist... Choice?

SunBunny

Posted: Nov 13, 2012

This is exactly what I was trying to say in that other topic about getting younger persons involved in social nudity. It begins at home and the examples we set. Whether they decise to do that or not will be their decision and choice. No X-Box or creative marketing strategy by a nudist venue will change that to any great degree. It all starts with us and the examples we set.
We are probably behind the curve on this because we were raised in a time of significant non-acceptance and negative social norms. The media information tools were not available to us as they are nowdays. Never the less, it is not to late to start, even of it is with our adult children, grandchildren and great grandchildren. We are the examples of credibility.
ASA Days arrow THE (BARE) TRUTH IN ADVERTISEMENT

SunBunny

Posted: Nov 11, 2012

I don't care if it is a woman drinking coffee or a gecko walking down the beach... whenever clothing optional is mentioned in such a casual fashion it takes it one step closer to being a normal thing to do. That is good.

Good job Andy, stupid personalized and unwarranted petty comments should never be tolerated in any of our groups. Mahalo.
Absolute Naturists arrow Pastie Lady...Do you think she's a nut case?

SunBunny

Posted: Nov 11, 2012

I say God bless her for having the courage to follow her path and beliefs. She is not a nut case, she is fearless and hears a different drum. Those her judge her and condem her are the nut cases. A spirit like that will alwasy be feared and those type of negative actions will always occur.

While her actions are not about nudism or promoting nudism, I thought the article was worthy of having a discussion about because it exemplifies the beauty of living life as you believe you want to or need to. We all should have the courage and inner stength to do that.
You know, I don't care how old the article is, it was never about that. Stories like this that provide examples of the fire of the human spirit are timeless.
Absolute Naturists arrow Pastie Lady...Do you think she's a nut case?

SunBunny

Posted: Nov 10, 2012

The Pastie Lady of Ojai... do you think she is a nut case?

Here is an article about a woman who lives in Ojai, CA and frequents about this small community in a G-String and pasties. She has been called a nut case and subjected to much negative reactions. Read the article and tell us what you think.

This is the url: http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-pasties26apr26,0,5958228,full.story
NorthWest Outdoor Nudists arrow Venturing to Warmer Climes

SunBunny

Posted: Nov 10, 2012

Do any of you venture to warmer climate areas in the winter, even for just a weekend? Tell us about it.
Texas Nudists and Resorts arrow Whats new at yor nudist hangout?

SunBunny

Posted: Nov 10, 2012

What new at the nudist venues or place that you hang out at? Change is always a good thing. Tell us about it.
Absolute Naturists arrow Engage venues to attract the young adults

SunBunny

Posted: Nov 10, 2012

This is the same old tired philosphy that the "elderly" nudist resorts keep spouting and the lazy "eldrly" nudists keep saying. It is not the job of AANR or The Naturist Society or any nudist venue to recruit a younger generation of people who may be interested in a nudist lifestyle or nude recreation. It starts at home.

The younger people you see coming into the nude venues or particpating in nude living are doing so because of what their parents have taught them about social nudity. If you think putting a X-BOX in a nudist venue is going to bring in the yonger generation you are NUTS.

I would bet dollars to donuts that the majority of people in this group or NCH for that matter have not taught the benefits of socal nudity to the kids at home or by example. Most of them are still hiding and afraid to share their enjoyment of social nudity with others, including their family members. Guess what... this is where it starts. Counting on nudist venues to do this job is ridiculous and a cop out.

How many of you openly set an example that social and recreational nudity is a healthy and a normal way to live? How many of you openly set an example that there is nothing wrong with socail nudity? How many of you are really open about your desire to live or enjoy social nudity? Not many I would suspect.

Stop the tired philosphy talk. The future of social nudity is in your hands, not organizations or venues. So now tell us, what are you doing about this?
Absolute Naturists arrow Dreams

SunBunny

Posted: Nov 5, 2012

I had a dream the other day that I was sitting in a patio laughig and telling stories with friends having a cold beer and we were all nude....OH, WAIT, that wasn't a dream, we were actually doing that, geez.
Absolute Naturists arrow Nudism and Obesity

SunBunny

Posted: Oct 29, 2012

I think this has been a very good and honest discussion. Yes there have been a few bumps and scrapes along the way but that is what sometimes happens when you have honest discussions. I always prefer to know someones honest feeling about a subject rather than some PC boring gobblygook. That way I know where their head is and I can deal with it as suits me best. This is the manner in which I moderate this group and I tend to believe is what makes it the most popular and active group on NCH.
Maybe some of you ought to read the original subject posting again then read our mantra again.
If you are offended by this subject you have probably taken this and other subjects personally rather than intellectually. We are here to learn from each other and respect each others opinions and experiences. I think we have done that.
Absolute Naturists arrow Whats the longest time you've been able to stay nude

SunBunny

Posted: Oct 28, 2012

Feels good huh! Just imagine living nude almost all the time. You tend to forget about the need or desire to ever wear clothes.
I am living nude all the time except when I have to go outside Natures Resort to like the grocery store or somewhere and then I just toss on a light sundress with nothing underneath. It is almost like still being nude. If I ever get upskirted they will be in for a surprise.
Absolute Naturists arrow Introduce Yourself

SunBunny

Posted: Oct 28, 2012

We have had lots of new additions to our membership recently. New folks, tell us a little about yourselves... we won't bite (to hard anyway). Also please try to join us on the group chat. We are listening...
Absolute Naturists arrow Biggest Issues Facing Naturist/Nudist Community

SunBunny

Posted: Oct 27, 2012

What do you think are the biggest issues currently facing the naturist/nudist comunity?
Absolute Naturists arrow AN Group Chat... would you particpate?

SunBunny

Posted: Oct 27, 2012

Well we are going to try this for the first session. Nothing is set in stone. The whole point is to bring us closer together and talk about stuff. Chime in whenever you can. Thanks!
Absolute Naturists arrow AN Group Chat... would you particpate?

SunBunny

Posted: Oct 27, 2012

REMINDER:
Ok folks, put it on your calendar...

Absolute Naturists 1st Group Chat Session:
>Tuesday, October 30th, 7pm Pacific US(9pm Central & 10pm Eastern).

All you have to do is log into our group and in the group box click on "Group Chat" and it will take you there. I will try to be on a few minutes early. Think of some good stuff to talk about. See you there, I think it will be fun.
Absolute Naturists arrow Pets... What role do they play in your life?

SunBunny

Posted: Oct 25, 2012

We have a kitty, he is in one of my pics. He is part of the family and travels with us everywhere. He is a good little traveler. He is also the entertainment comittee on our boat, yep he loves the boat. He was a rescue cat, about 4 months old when I adopted him, but from the moment he and I first met we were pals and have been through any escapeds since then.
I am a cat person. I have had only one dog, a mix chihuahua when I was very young and I loved her very much. I think pets are good for a person.
Absolute Naturists arrow Pets... What role do they play in your life?

SunBunny

Posted: Oct 24, 2012

What role do pets play in your life? Many of us have pets so if you do tell us how they are involved with your life. Thanks.
Texas Nudists and Resorts arrow Big dreams

SunBunny

Posted: Oct 21, 2012

I would have a big Texas size party and invite all of you to come get naked. I'll send the Nudie jet to pick you up.
Absolute Naturists arrow AN Group Chat... would you particpate?

SunBunny

Posted: Oct 21, 2012

Ok folks, put it on your calendars:
Tuesday, October 30th, 7pm PDT
(9pm Central & 10pm EST)
Nothing set in stone yet, we will see how it go's. I think it will be fun.
If you have any other thoughts we still have a little more than a week to go so speak up please.
Absolute Naturists arrow Males Friending Females ONLY... What do you think?

SunBunny

Posted: Oct 21, 2012

Well it looks like I have ruffled a few feathers on my topic posts recently. I have said this group welcomes challenging opinions and discussions. As owner of the group I am not changing that because a a few dented egos.
Truenenza, get it right before waving a finger at me. I am clearly on record that the Freinds thing here on NCH is not my thing. Further in my profile I state "RE: NCH Friends- If I want to be your friend... I will ask you and you can decide if you want to be my friend. In short guys, please don't ask.".
Obviously you either did not bother to read my profile like all the other men who ask to be my friend almost every day -or- you thought you were on a special list -or- you just didn't care what I said. I did appreciate your sincere note that you sent with the friend request but it did not give you a free pass. I don't believe I ask you if you wanted to be my "NCH Friend". You don't have the negative experiences that I and some of the other women have had in this regard. By reading some of the posts I am obviously not alone in my thinking or rational. This is not about you so quit taking it personally.
One more thing, this in not a finger pointing session and I am as free as you are to express my opinion on any topic on any group I am a member of as you have and do. Shall we move on...
Absolute Naturists arrow AN Group Chat... would you particpate?

SunBunny

Posted: Oct 20, 2012

...and a good nickle it is. I would also hope for every woman on Absolute Naturists to participate but we will just have to try it and see who shows up. Appreciate you encouraging the ladies, thanks.
Absolute Naturists arrow Are Nudist Singles Sites a Joke?

SunBunny

Posted: Oct 20, 2012

Triker,
I believe what I said was going on a Single's Site with no intention of sincerely wanting to possibly meet someone in the nudist community for a possible relationship was not honest or sincere and for that it was plain dumb. It is what made those sites a joke in my opinion. I didn't think called YOU dumb, but maybe I inadvertently did. I apoligize for that.
What I do find interesting is that after I spoke to your comments as I honestly believed them to be, you almost immediately changed your profile to private. I am not sure why but I did find the timing interesting. FireProf, the group co-moderator, has ask you to change it back if you wanted to remain in this group since that is a requirement. You have ignored the request by your own choice which I again find interesting. As the owner of this group I have responsibilities and have made a commitment to each member to apply and adhere to the group rules. If you find me "dumb" for expressing my opinions I accept that, but allowing you to continue in the Absolute Naturists with wilfull contempt and disregard for the rules would definitely be dumb, which I do not believe I am. Goodbye and best wishes.
Absolute Naturists arrow AN Group Chat... would you particpate?

SunBunny

Posted: Oct 20, 2012

Thanks for your inut folks, appreciate it.
I am thinking the Last Tuesday of the Month at 7pm Pacific Time (9pm Central /10p Eastern) for like an hour or so chat.
What do you think? We can start this month if you like.
Absolute Naturists arrow Are Nudist Singles Sites a Joke?

SunBunny

Posted: Oct 20, 2012

One thing I have learned in my life is "Never say Never", just let things take their course naturally and all will be well.
FireProf, I don't think I said go to these sites to find a wife, a compatible companion to enjoy life is plenty good enough. Keeping an open mind to what life lays in your path is part of that equation. I think I was saying that you should just be sincere and honest in whatever you do. To go on a singles site with the absolute attitude that you do not want to change that is not sincere to joining a singles site where people are actually hoping to find a companion.
When I joined Single Nudist I was not expecting nor intending to find a husband, it just happened... naturally.
Absolute Naturists arrow Are Nudist Singles Sites a Joke?

SunBunny

Posted: Oct 19, 2012

I think what Triker said, "I personally enjoy being single and want to stay that way." "I figured SN would be a great place to meet even MORE cool and pretty ladies.", is what makes these sites a JOKE.
I experienced this attitude from the majority of men on SingleNudist, WTF! If you want to just chat and BS about things you should do it on sites like NCH, not SN. I think most women go to thse sites in hopes of possibly meeting sombody for a possible reltionship. Afterall that is what they are intended for. There are a FEW good men on there (I got one) so ladies don't be totally discourage, just don't waste time on dummies like Triker. Most women can find guys, single or not, to talk to anywhere and anytime. Obviously men like Triker can't so they go to single sites thinking that these women are just aching to talk to them, how stupid is that. Then, if a woman decides not to give the player the time of day they are labeled as "not cool". I think it is the player like Triker that is "not cool". Maybe you should go on match.com to find single people to talk to... hey why not, there are single people there right. How dumb is that.
Absolute Naturists arrow Males Friending Females ONLY... What do you think?

SunBunny

Posted: Oct 18, 2012

What is a mack?
I think the guys on NCH that do that are fake nudists just wanting to see pictures of nude women and/or get a thrill out of having nude women as friends. They could be homo-phobes as well. In either case, they are stupid and don't belong here. I am considering dumping them from our group as FireProf has advised me. It just feels "icky" to me. They don't do this site any good.
ok, anyway as I have said before, I think the whole friending thing on here is just BS. Really, why would I want to be "friends" with somebody I will never meet nor probaby even interestd in meeting. If I want to be your friend, and there are a few, I will ask you and you can decide. I say that on my NCH profile. I still think it is BS, just like Facebook.
Absolute Naturists arrow Are Nudist Singles Sites a Joke?

SunBunny

Posted: Oct 18, 2012

Hey dkk... That was me. I met my husband on Single Nudist. I don't think the Single Nudist site is a joke nor a sex site as the jaundiced rabbitbunny seems to think, but many of the people on it are a joke. Bunch of lonely old men who who are set in their ways and just want to talk about nothing... there is the reason they are single. No matter what, you have to weed through the junk to get to the good stuff if you really are interested meeting somebody. Yes there are women who are hookers on these sites, even this one I am sure just as there are fake nudists. They are part of the junk. I don't know much about other nudist related single sites if there are any. I do know that if you are a female specifically looking for a person to meet that understands social nudity, DON'T Go to the textile oriented sites. Those are loaded with horndogs and idiots. I did that, said I was a nudist, and had 1,500+ men wanting to date me the first day...hmmmm. Go figure, now that is a joke!
Absolute Naturists arrow Are Nudist Singles Sites a Joke?

SunBunny

Posted: Oct 17, 2012

Are nudist singles sites on the internet a joke? At least one of our group members thinks so. What do you think?
Absolute Naturists arrow How does Positive Social Nudity Bring Harm?

SunBunny

Posted: Oct 17, 2012

How can it even harm a belief system?
I can see where it may move someones cheese in that regard, but harm it... I'm perplexed on that.

By the way, I used the word "harm" in the question because that is exactly what the member used in another post. It was not to debate the word. I noticed he has not posted his thoughts here yet...maybe we moved his cheese too! I hope so, it's a good thing.
Absolute Naturists arrow Living Nude... Why?

SunBunny

Posted: Oct 16, 2012

It feels so natural. I don't think anyone can really understand or appreciate it until you live in a place where nudity is the norm. After you do that, clothing just seems insane.
I know,I live in a nudist housing venue.
Absolute Naturists arrow How does Positive Social Nudity Bring Harm?

SunBunny

Posted: Oct 16, 2012

How does positive social nudity bring harm, or be percieved to bring harm to anyone?

An AN member stated in another topic that as long as his social nudity does not bring harm it is ok. That brought me to wonder, how can the act of simple, positive social nudity bring any harm to anybody. If a nudist thinks he is potentially harming someone by practicing social nudity, is he viewing it as wrong himself -or- is he allowing the perceptions of non-nudists to determine right or wrong for him. Your thoughts please.
Absolute Naturists arrow Males Friending Females ONLY... What do you think?

SunBunny

Posted: Oct 16, 2012

What do you think about men who friend women only here on NCH?

I have noticed that there are a number of men who join NCH and they friend ONLY females. What is with this? Personally, and I state this in my profile, I am not a big fan of friending on NCH and I don't get the Facebook thing either. When I see the subject of the topic going on with a fellow wh has ask to be my friend a big red flag go's up in my book. Maybe it is just me, what are your thoughts.
Absolute Naturists arrow AN Group Chat... would you particpate?

SunBunny

Posted: Oct 15, 2012

If we had a Absolute Naturist group chat, woud you be willing to participate? If yes, what day and time would work best for you?

I have been thinking about doing this for a while so I would like your input. If you would like to fine, if not that is fine also. I would like a sense of the group before proceeding. Thanks!
Nude Photographers arrow Who will do nude pics ?

SunBunny

Posted: Oct 14, 2012

Yeah BUT this topic is about getting pictures develpoed without fear, digital does that, no fuss no muss. BTW, I know a lot of pro's that have witched. Must be some reason for that.
Absolute Naturists arrow Nudism vs Exhibitionism

SunBunny

Posted: Oct 14, 2012

Yes Dawn, I could not agree more with FP and AB, Your Dad said it right, good for him. It woul be nice if we had more "smart asses" like him. To me there is a big difference between social nudity and exhibition and decency. I know a lot of very decent human beings who are nudists. There is nothing wrong with social nudity so why not correct those who do not understand that. Streaking was never about social nudity so I am glad to hear you never fell victim to the double dog dare to do it. That is what many non-nudists think it is about because they never have experienced social nudity. I would double dog dare them to go to a nudist venue with me. In the same light, I find it equally wrong to use social nudity for perceived social causes that have no direct relationship to social nudity. Bay to Breakers is not included in that but the bike rides are in my opinion.
Thanks again for an interesting question.
I don't feel as strong about making sure I don't answer the door nude because it is how I basically live. Even outside of my nude living environment, people know I am a nudist and I am very comfortable being nude with anyone whether they are nude or not.It is not a big deal to me so why focus on it, just act and be as you would normlly do. It is what they are doing.
Texas Nudists and Resorts arrow Group monitor

SunBunny

Posted: Oct 14, 2012

If I may add a few more things besides wagging the finger, being a group owner/moderator is a lot of fun. The job is mainly keeping an energy with interesting topics and good discussions. It is also about keeping the group members engaged in the topics and connected with each other.
As group owner, I don't want anyone to think that I or my co-moderator Txbiker are the only ones who add topics. This each group members forum to speak their minds and share their experiences. I invite all of you to do that.
Thanks for asking this great question.

Absolute Naturists arrow Nudist Clubs/Resorts in Your Area

SunBunny

Posted: Oct 11, 2012

Wow, thanks Triker, good info for me. I am thinking about visiting there and checking it out this winter. I get their newsletter. What is a good month to visit and can you add a little more about Sunsport. Thanks!
Texas Nudists and Resorts arrow Members: Why did you join this group?

SunBunny

Posted: Oct 11, 2012

You are welcome OldFrog. We are talking about having some meet-ups sometime in the near future. Check that topic out and give us your thoughts.
Texas Nudists and Resorts arrow Are Texas Nudists different than other nudists?

SunBunny

Posted: Oct 11, 2012

Are Texas nudists different than other nudists from other states and countries? What do you think?
Absolute Naturists arrow The Fight for Nudist Rights Has Begun! SIGN THIS PETITION TODAY!

SunBunny

Posted: Oct 9, 2012

Who the heck ever made nudists the Nude Police of SF. I don't see the gay community doing anything. Why?...because nudity is about sex for these guys in the Castro. They don't give a F about social nudity like we do. If they did they would not be doing the stupid stuff they are doing and that is bring negativity to the nudity. They are actually hurting us social nudists. C'mon, it is advertising for them and nothing else, geez what is so hard to understand about that. This is another case of the gay male community F'ing things up and we are quick to align them with social nudists. This whole nude in San Fran started once again by the gays in the Castro. I say screw it, make it clear that this whole issue and lewdy problems have nothing to do with us responsible social nudists and let it die on those merits. Maybe someday Nudists CAN OWN IT by taking the lead (not being the tail of the dog) on making social nudity legal in one of the most liberal cities around on a platform of responsibe, respectful and not lewd nudity. We certainly have organizations and data to support that. I think we are missing the balls to make it happen. Lets have the "appropriate place" conversation again. What BS. At this point get a clue... it is not our issue nor our fight. By reacting you are simply falling into the trap of nudists vs. gays fight and missing the bigger picture of demonstrating the merits of social nudity. Sorry, not with you on this one.
Texas Nudists and Resorts arrow Hi.

SunBunny

Posted: Oct 7, 2012

I hear it is still hot over at Natures in the RGV. Everyone is thinking it is going to be that way for a while. I hope so. I am on my way now.
Absolute Naturists arrow Living Nude... Why?

SunBunny

Posted: Oct 7, 2012

Every day that passes I am more convinced that living nude and living in harmony and balance with nature is best way to live. It just gets rid of all the armor and pretense that clothing wraps us in. Once you live nude at the core level you can begin to clearly see and separate the nonsense of the textile mandates whether you are in a situation where you have to cover up or not. The Colina segment with Carina really typifies it.

I thought I would bring this up again since we have sooooooo many newer members who have not chimed in on this one. It is an excellent topic.
Whether you are new or not, tell us your thoughts please at this point in time....
Absolute Naturists arrow Nudism and Obesity

SunBunny

Posted: Oct 6, 2012

Nudony & Armadillo, this a great subject for a different topic post. I think it would be a very good and interesting issue to discuss. Can one of you please think about maybe formulating the question and posting it.

Group memebrs, Can we please get back to this topic please? thank you. SB
Absolute Naturists arrow Nudism vs Exhibitionism

SunBunny

Posted: Oct 6, 2012

Let me see if I can formulate the question you are asking to AN group members: What are your thoughts on Social Nudity (Nudism) vs "Shock Nudity (exhibitionism)"?

I believe that is what you are asking and a very good question. Thankyou for posting it.
(If I am wrong please correct me. As moderator I try to make it easy for people to understand and answer the topic question.SB)
Absolute Naturists arrow Are Nudists/Naturists Cool People?

SunBunny

Posted: Oct 6, 2012

Actually I have met some really down to earth wonderfull people in the nudist community. Some of them are cool also but the one thing to me that make them "cool" is that they are able and allow themselves to be accepting of everybody. Not everybody in the nudist community is accepting of everybody. That is what I was trying to get at earlier. Down to earth does not equal cool.

As far as the "cool" nudists, I am not sure if that is a component of their nudity or just their natural character. Maybe it is their character that allows them and their values to be and feel open and accept social nudity as part of their life. In either case, complete acceptance seems to be the key to happiness. It makes the world a brighter and easier place to live in for everybody. Am I wrong?
NorthWest Outdoor Nudists arrow What makes you think you are a Nudist?

SunBunny

Posted: Oct 6, 2012

What makes you think you are a nudist? Simple question.
tell us your thoughts.
Absolute Naturists arrow Nudism and Obesity

SunBunny

Posted: Oct 6, 2012

Thank you all for taking a deep breath and starting to move forward in a more positive fashion. I know it is difficult sometimes and all of our lives are filled with issues that we deal with and work through. I remain hopeful that some of the responses to topics on this group can be a helping piece of a puzzle to things we all deal with dailey. I truly want us all to be supportive of each other and enjoy social nudism as a way of living. Thanks again everybody.
Now for a little commentary on the latest responses (sorry I could not resist):

Brett: I don't think that was you, really really unless you reversed the ageing process and if you did can you share the secret to doing that. On second thought, forget it, I like my age. Smile, it looks good on you.

FireProf: So much for getting back on track, I am just not sure what track you are on. LOL, cause you seemed to address about three (maybe four) different topics here on AN. Good commentary and appreciated. At times like this I seeem to recall a song by the 5th Dimension named Aquarius. Good job Wingman.
Sanman: By your posts it was clear to me that you are passionate about healthy living. I have read your suggestions and thoughts carefully but I kept feeling like I was being preached to. Perhaps others did as well. I would encourage you to post a topic that provides an avenue for group members to give their thoughts or experiences on TIPS for leading a healthy lifestyle. That way everybody can share and not just hear from the teacher. We all have experiences, some big some small, but they are all valuable just the same. I think this would be a positive way to address the main thrust of this topic. Give it some thought please.

ok, Jedi Master over and out!
Absolute Naturists arrow Nudism and Obesity

SunBunny

Posted: Oct 5, 2012

ok I give up... some of you just do not get it or better yet do not want to get it. Your choice, whatever.
Through one of the other topics on Absolute it was brought to light that the vast majority of people on this group are not even part-time nudists nor have ever been to a nudist venue. The home nudist thing doesn't cut it when you talk about social nudity. I heard clearly what Sunofabeach was getting at when he said you see the extremely overweght people at many nudist venues and in pictures in the AANR Bulletin. Besides living in a nudist venue, I have visited a number of them on extended stays and guess what...I have seen the same type of people. Do I judge them and critize them, no. Do I enjoy seeing people who are extremely over weight for whatever reasons, no. Should I be the enabler and help them justify why they are over weight, no. Beleive me I have heard a lot of justifications. I am pretty good at reading through the BS and a lot of it is BS.

When a guy, this is an actual experience, lumbers his 300+ pound body full of stretch marks and discoloration over my head when I am leaning back in a lounge chair poolside, it is disgusting. In that event it was purposeful because he could have easily gone in another direction. Whatever jollies he got, I sure didn't and this is the type of activities that occur. So maybe there is a reason for some hostility towards some of these people. They are disrepectful. Most of the one'e I have encountered were not happy people. I never have an issue (nor judge) with anyone who is over weight as long as the are nice and respectful. I do wish that if they could lead healthier lifstyles they would, but I learned long ago you can't want something more for someone than they want it for themselves.
Can we all take a deep breath, drop the personalizing, and just talk about this in an open and positive manner. If you really don't think you can... don't respond please
Absolute Naturists arrow Are Nudists/Naturists Cool People?

SunBunny

Posted: Oct 4, 2012

As I have said before, from my actual experience...NO.
I live in a nudist reort and some of the people there, from the bible belt mind you, are some of the most bias, prejudice, racist, dumbasses you would ever want to meet. Nudist are people first with all their junk, nudists second. If you watch closely at any nudist resort/venue you will see it. Ever heard of a clique, there where you should start to look first. Birds of a feather...
Absolute Naturists arrow Nudism and Obesity

SunBunny

Posted: Oct 4, 2012

Lacy, I don't think you know enough about me or the role of a moderator to beat me about my comment of levity of this type of forum not the subject. If you are pissed, you are pissed for the wrong reasons. I don't beleive I have ever told you that you pissed me off, please do not tell me that either. This group is based on challenging discussions because those are what make you think and not to be defensive about or get you pissed about. I believe we learn from being challenged, not from being pissed. Whenever I get pissed about something, I try to understand why I am pissed and I almost always move forward in the context of the issue. I don't need to walk in your shoes nor do I want to. You have not walked in mine either and I don't want you to. That is personalization at the highest level.

Topics like this always get very personal and passionate because people want to personalize it with emotions or predjudice. This topic and the one like before that I posted were both clear about it not including health issue. Yet, once again it has entered into the discussion. To me what is trying to be addressed are those people who are overweight or unheathy becasue of choice they make in their lives. I want everyone I meet or befriend to be health and happy. Almost everyone I meet that has extreme weight issues due to their own actions are almost nefver healthy or happy. I do believe that some of these nudists do run to the body acceptance theme because they can bury the actions and not worry or even think about confronting the issues for their OWN good. Ok, they are trying to fell better about themselves but that is just a bandaid and not the solution. Not wearing clothes may even be more comfortable, ok I get that too. Whatever is the case, I don't know and I don't care. I do what I do, they can do what they want to do. I have had snippy comments from some of these people very directly pointed at me and the words were mean and hurtful. I could have very easily stooped to that level in response but I choose to ignore them because that is more powerful. I don't accept their comments and that is my choice. I will probably be around longer than they will, but again that is their decision, not mine
Absolute Naturists arrow Colina del Sol, Brazil: A Study of a Naturist Living Comunity

SunBunny

Posted: Oct 2, 2012

Possibily... but all the Carina stuff is dated about 5 years back or longer. If anything it sounds like it succumbed to the resort weekend type thing but on a low budget. All the paradise mumbo-jumbo is no longer. heck, I live in a nudist compound during the winter and we walk around nude all the time...but it is a paradise unless you call the ability to walk around nude all the time paradise. I prefer a naturistic type setting that I beleive Colina portrays. Cambium sounds like it is trying to be that but this holistic emphasis is a tunoff to me. Since when did living naturally and nude become holistic. Is that Organic now also... I am not into huggin trees.
Absolute Naturists arrow Nudism and Obesity

SunBunny

Posted: Oct 2, 2012

Blah Blah Blah... I like cookies and I eat them.

Ah just having a little fun with y'all.
This has been a good, spirted and thought provoking discussion. We have not had one like this in a while. Good job folks, keep it up. This is an issue that has so many viewpoints and representations in the nudist arena. Let's keep going... who have we not heard from???
Absolute Naturists arrow Most Fun While Nude

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 30, 2012

Watching pro football!
Nude Photographers arrow Profile Photos

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 30, 2012

I totally agree with you Rabbit. Those folks are just hiding...how dumb. Why are they even here... looky loos I suspect. Delete them Tom!
Nude Photographers arrow Who will do nude pics ?

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 30, 2012

Two suggestions:
1) Find several professional photograpers in your area, go see them and explain your situation. They will have answers since they are more use to artsy photographers, You may have to pay more but what are the pics worth to you.
2) Switch to a digital camera. Even the cheaper ones take high quality pics and you can print them yourself. Film for the most part is like vinyl records...long gone. Those pics you have may be as well.
NorthWest Outdoor Nudists arrow Winterizing?

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 30, 2012

...or is it that you are outside still enjoying the last days of sun and no rain.
It has been a unique summer season. What do yo think?
Texas Nudists and Resorts arrow Looking on the internet

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 30, 2012

There are none to my knowledge. Every place advertises for itself and usually paints a glossy picture. This is why I was asking for first hand info from the folks on the ground.
Thanks for bring this up. Anybody else have any ideas.
Absolute Naturists arrow Nude with a Movie Star

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 30, 2012

Harold & Kumar... now that would be funny, even of it is just the characters they play... dude!
Absolute Naturists arrow Colina del Sol, Brazil: A Study of a Naturist Living Comunity

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 30, 2012

I heard that it had pretty much folded. See: http://www.nudistday.com/article/visit-to-colina-do-sol-in-brazil.html

The info on it, other than Carina, is very spotty. If it is live and well, are they intentionally keeping it under the radar? Something doesn't make sense.
Absolute Naturists arrow Nudism and Obesity

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 30, 2012

Thanks for bringing this subject up again. Last time on my topic "Body Acceptance and Fat Unhealthy Nudists" I was essentially getting at the same thing except my title was more upfront. However in your intro commentary you said basically the same thing. I still see grossley obese people in the nudist community fairly frequently, as well as in the AANR Bulletin.
It is what it is.
Nudists need to get more healthy. Stop the dieting yoyo. Exercise and portion based healthy eating will do it. Oh yeah, one other thing..discipline and desire to live.
Absolute Naturists arrow Colina del Sol, Brazil: A Study of a Naturist Living Comunity

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 29, 2012

Let's have a discussion on Colina del Sol in Brazil. It is no longer in operation I believe. It was to be a Naturist Living self sustaining community. It folded. What happened?

If all of you can do your own research, develop your own theories and share your thoughts with all of us that would be super great. I decided to try this topic in hopes that maybe we can all learn something from it's experience, both good and not so good.
Thanks!
Absolute Naturists arrow A Nudist's Home is a Nudist's Castle...maybe.

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 26, 2012

Nudony... oh please,
"I respect your viewpoint, SB; I only wish you would respect those people that have to make "accomodations" in return."

I say what I say because it is what I believe and do. I beleive making accomodations is the same as living my life to other peoples standards of living. To me that is not the way to live, better yet it is a waste of your life.

As far as respect, by allowing folks to say what they say and believe is total respect of them as individuaals at the highest level, especially in forums like this where I could easily censor almost anything. To me, respect is not about agreeing, coddling or regurgitating the heard mentality, it is about allowing and promoting individuality to be expressed without repercussion and staying open to others words, thoughts and ideas... and I think I do a darn good job of that. Your milage may vary.

Absolute Naturists arrow How We Talk About Social Nudity

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 26, 2012

A few years back I fell into the trap of saying what social nudity was not almost right off the bat. Nowdays I almost never go there unless I have to debunk a comment or belief.
Looking back at how I use to respond with what it wasn't I see that it was my way of saying that I wasn't a nympho or perv or anything like that. I was always trying to justify myself to the non-nudists as being just like one of them. Then I realized that many of these textile non-nudists that I thought to be upstanding community members had more sexual hangups and deviant issues, probably due to sexual repression, than I was even close to. I stopped trying to justify myself to them. I realized how dumb that was. Since then, I do my thing and they can keep on doing their thing. When ask specifically about social nudity or nude recreation, I just smile and say that it is a honest, open and naturally happy way of living and enjoying life for anybody. Try it, you will like it.
NorthWest Outdoor Nudists arrow Winterizing?

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 25, 2012

Are we winterizing yet? What is the best way to do this and still enjoy social nudity. Please share.
Texas Nudists and Resorts arrow Members: Why did you join this group?

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 25, 2012

Simple question: Why did you join this group?

To make this group more relevant to it's current and future members, I would like to know why you joined the Texas Nudist group? What are you interested in? What would get you to participate in discussions on a regular basis? Don't be shy... tell me please. As the new owner of the group, this would be very helpful and I would definitely appreciate your input.

In my experience, to make groups like this successful and beneficial to all it's members... people need to participate. Relevant topics are what stimulate conversation. This is how participation happens.
ok folks (ALL MEMBERS), tell us all what you are thinking?

Remember: Deadwood serves no purpose other than maybe good fire wood.
Absolute Naturists arrow How We Talk About Social Nudity

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 25, 2012

When you talk about social nudity, do you say what it is -or- what it is not?

In a recent article I read, the comment was made by a long time nudist that when nudists speak about social nudity to a non-nudist it invaribly includes or sometimes even starts out with what we are not verses what we are. That would be like we are not swingers, perverts, sex mongers, flashers, molesters... so forth and so forth. Somewhere in the conversation a positive may be included. The point this nudist was making was that we seem to put the negative before the positive which can skew the conversation in a negative direction.
Let's talk about this.
Absolute Naturists arrow A Nudist's Home is a Nudist's Castle...maybe.

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 25, 2012

This group is "For people that want to be and live nude", not apologize and make as many accomodations and exceptions for their social nudity as they possibly can. How does change occur or even begin to occur? Most of what I am reading here is right in line with the "appropriate places" garbage. Now you are not even sure if your own home is an appropriate place... geez. Why do you let others run your life?
Absolute Naturists arrow A Nudist's Home is a Nudist's Castle...maybe.

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 24, 2012

In my castle I choose to be as I want to be. Since I am very open about my practice of social nudity and nude living, I have nothing to hide or be ashamed of. I don't run around like a maniac when someone comes to the door or to visit. This was true even before I lived in a nudist resort (colony as I believe to be more correct) half the year. On the boat, be it on the dock or out on the water I will choose to be nude as I desire. Again, I don't run around trying to cover up like a maniac when someone comes aboard to visit or anchors nearby. It is my domain, my castle, my appropriate place. They can choose if it is their appropriate place based on their sensibilities. I respect them on their turf, they respect me on my turf. Simple as that. I am not lonely either Rabbit.
Seems like most of you are more concerned on what or how others will judge you or think of you based on their standards of correct living. Do you really think you have a mental illness for enjoying social nudity? Do you think your social nudity is offensive? I think you do if you feel you have to do cover up things anytime "friends" visit. By doing so you are only perpetuting the belief that social nudity is wrong and perverted. The story about the woman who was nude in her home is a good one. She got it, her friends didn't. They chose to judge her by their standards not her's. Now isn't that the real problem of that equation.

Rabbit & Jim,
I post when I choose to post, just like you do. In Absolute Naturists there is a reason I don't post immediately on my topics. If you look over most of the topics I have posted, I rarely give my opinion right off the bat. Why... so that there is no bias enter into the topic by me. I am interested in hearing what you are thinking, I know what I think. By not entering a bias into this sharing we have the opportunity to gain perspectives from other member's ideas or experiences. This is what a group like this is about. This is the member's soapbox, not SunBunny's. That's the way it is and will be under my ownership. It seems to be a successful formula for moderating the group.
Texas Nudists and Resorts arrow Important Texas Nudist Issues... what are they?

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 23, 2012

Do you think that there are there any specific issues that are important/relevant to Texas nudists or Texas nudist resorts/venues?
Absolute Naturists arrow I love to be nude because....

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 23, 2012

I love to be nude because...
it is the real me, no cover ups, no pretenses. Very empowering!
Absolute Naturists arrow A Nudist's Home is a Nudist's Castle...maybe.

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 23, 2012

Do you think that a Nudist's home should be their castle with all the nude living priviledges or at least the ability to be nude whenever they want no matter what?

Did a king ever ask if he could act as a king in his own castle, of course not. Then why do we feel a need to ask if it is ok to be a nudist in our own homes. Think about it... then tell us your answer.
Texas Nudists and Resorts arrow Best thing about eating TX style BBQ when you are nude?

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 21, 2012

What is the best thing about eating good ole' Texas BBQ when you are nude? Any funny stories? Go for it folks!
Texas Nudists and Resorts arrow How About a Texas Meet-Up?

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 21, 2012

I will start working on it.
Any other places folks?
Texas Nudists and Resorts arrow Fun things to do nude in Texas?

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 20, 2012

What do you think are the most FUN things to do nude in Texas?
C'mon, jump in and tell us what you do that's fun, thanks!
Texas Nudists and Resorts arrow Understanding Nudity Laws in Texas

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 19, 2012

Thanks for the comment Sanman. BTW, good to have you back posting again.

Anybody else havve any thoughts or info? Please chime in.
Absolute Naturists arrow Winter Nudity... what do you do?

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 17, 2012

Yep, we do the same thing. We winter in south Texas and it is almost always warm, even at night. All the pools are heated, sometimes the volleyball pool gets to hot. It gets cold in WA so why the heck stay there.
Absolute Naturists arrow Are you different when nude?

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 17, 2012

Actually I am a little grumpy when I am dressed and don't tend to smile as much and tend to get things all sideways. I know this is a backwards way of answering the question but I am at the Toyota dealer getting our car ready for the long trip back to Texas and I am dressed... go figure.
When I am nude I am a happy smiley person. I guess I feel real so yes I am different when I am nude.
Absolute Naturists arrow Winter Nudity... what do you do?

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 17, 2012

When Winter is upon us, there is a chill in the air and maybe snow on the ground... what do you do? Tell us what you are thinking or planning on doing this Winter. Thanks!
Texas Nudists and Resorts arrow Lone Star Resort?

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 17, 2012

Anyone have any first-hand info on Lone Star Resort? It looks nice on the website. I might like to visit there this winter.
Texas Nudists and Resorts arrow How About a Texas Meet-Up?

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 17, 2012

I can host one over at Natures Resort this winter. Their facilities get a little tight because so many people come down and hang out all winter but you could always "camp-out" in our patio. The nights are warm. Interested?

OK, that's two places so far, Star Ranch and Natures Resort. Anybody else have a suggestion?
Texas Nudists and Resorts arrow Where to be Nude in Texas

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 17, 2012

Thanks Kijad! Can you (please please pretty pllease)give us a first hand critique of both Star Ranch and Armadillo? Members might like to hear it, I know I would.

Anyone else have info on other resorts?
NorthWest Outdoor Nudists arrow Nude Snow Skiing

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 15, 2012

Have you ever snow skied nude?
Texas Nudists and Resorts arrow How About a Texas Meet-Up?

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 15, 2012

Thought I would bring this to the surface again. I think it would be fun if we could have some meet-ups. Any suggestions to make it happen?
Texas Nudists and Resorts arrow Group Challenge & New Group Owner Introduction - Hi Y'all!

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 15, 2012

I am throwing out a challenge to all you Texas nudists and resorts to share what you think is the best way to enjoy being nude in Texas. C'mon... go for it!

I also wanted to take this opportunity to introduce myself as the new group owner of NCH's Texas Nudists and Resorts. Some of you may know of me from Absolute Naturists here on NCH. I welcome all open, honest, interesting, and challenging discussions and sharing of information on social nudity. Being a resident in the Rio Grande Valley and living in a nudist resort I really enjoy the uniqueness that Texas has to offer us nudists. Please feel free to post topics of interest to you. Let's make this group one of the best on here.
Texas Nudists and Resorts arrow Where to be Nude in Texas

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 15, 2012

Where do you think is the BEST place to be nude in Texas and why?
Please share. (actully list as many as you like)
Absolute Naturists arrow I like to use the term "naked" over nude..

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 14, 2012

Wayne,
I don't need to relax and I think you missed the point of EVERYTHING I said. This is NOT about dictionary meanings... it is about perceptions. The word Naked has a negative connotation when applied to what nudists strive for and enjoy. I don't just wander around the woods naked like some lunatic when I go for a nude hike. People who do not understand or appreciate social nudity would probably view as exactly doing that and being that.
Wayne, I think you need to get some sun and stop relaxing naked in your house.
Lacey, agree with you up to the point "to each is own" because what they do could very well impact me, especally when they are clueless and speak with ignorant bias. If we become complacent in what we say and do, social nudity will have a difficult time getting a toehold with the textiles.
Absolute Naturists arrow I like to use the term "naked" over nude..

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 14, 2012

Ya know... I think the word NAKED is bad for nudists. Cheri stated in another topic, "Being nude (not naked as naked has a vulnerability component) enables me to feel a bit healthier.". I totally agree with her. Yeah, we can laugh and kid using the naked word around other nudists like I did earlier in this thread but I think we forget when you talk to non-nudist your words speak for all nudists and we really should be more careful. We have no reason to put ourselves in a place of vulnerability so why do it. Words are powerful. Don't forget it.
Absolute Naturists arrow Giving Ourselves Permission to Live Naturally

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 14, 2012

Anybody new care to comment on this older but very relevant topic? Are there any changes of thought from those who have been around for a while?
Any advice or new experiences. Please share.
Absolute Naturists arrow Comparing the Old and the New

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 14, 2012

I really do yearn for the simpler times of the past. The nude business seems to have gotten very complicated nowdays. Sombody is sueing, somebody is complaining, somebody wants high quality, somebody wants a pool and jacuzzi,somebody does not want kids around, somebody wants wants wants wants...geez, all this BS sometimes takes the enjoyment out of social nudity. I am sure there were struggles back then but people seem to enjoy the ability to just be nude with folks that enjoyed social nudity. This is what I find most interesting when I compare the two. To me we have traveled so far yet so wrong in so many ways.
Texas Nudists and Resorts arrow Nude Beaches in Texas Updates

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 14, 2012

Well I guess we can assume them there magazine folks ain't from Texas... dummies.
As soon as I get back in October I am going to investigate the situation on the So Padre beach.
Absolute Naturists arrow I love to be nude because....

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 13, 2012

Hey Cheri, thanks for reminding me about how much I love to be nude with our outdoor shower in TX. We live at the nudist club Natures Resort in te winter months so what happens is you just walk in, shower (or even cool down shower), step out and air dry... it is the best.
Absolute Naturists arrow Are you different when nude?

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 13, 2012

Do you act/think differently when you are nude?
Please share with more than a yes or no, thanks.
Absolute Naturists arrow Living a Nudist/Naturist Life ONLINE?

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 13, 2012

Wow, some good answers, thanks and much appreciated.
You all know I am nude a lot and live it a bunch so I tried to put myself in the ONLINE only mode of thinking to try to grasp how I viewed it. It does not come close or as liberating as being nude in the outside world whether it be by yourself or with others. However and with that said, it has provided me the ability to meet and network with some wonderful people who are nudists/naturists from within the USA and around the world. It has provided me with the foundations to form friendships with some super people. The perspectives and cultures we have shared have been very educational. My viewpoints and understandings of social nudity have become more balanced and rounded. It's a good thing. In addition, it is a powerful tool for information for someone starting to explore social nudity. This is somethng I did not have in my early years. As I said it is a good thing, BUT don't get stuck in just being ONLINE, you will miss a lot.
Clothing Optional Bed & Breakfasts arrow What is a C-O B&B... a B&B or a Mini-Resort?

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 12, 2012

Now really, What is a C-O B&B? Is it a regular B&B or a C-O Mini-Resort?

Most B&B's I am familiar with and have read about are "overnighters" where you can get a little more relaxed homey night stay while traveling or visiting somewhere. There is not an expectancy of a lengthy visit. Most do not have a 2 or more night minimum which does not work for many travelers. So again, what are they really?
Clothing Optional Bed & Breakfasts arrow Pet Friendly

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 12, 2012

Considering I am a cat person, dogs are not high on my list of greeting pets. Inevitably, when I encounter dogs they want to be petted and loved...but they want to lick me and rub on me, not high on my list of desirable things either.
Cats are different. Most usually just sleep and mind their own business. If some could talk they would tell you to get lost and leave them alone. They are very independent, tht is why I like them. They don't poop on the lawn either. For me, except for allergy concerns, cats are acceptable, dogs are not.
Absolute Naturists arrow Living a Nudist/Naturist Life ONLINE?

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 12, 2012

In what ways does this site allow you to live and benefit from social nudity? What benefits do you derive from being a ONLINE nudist/naturist?
Simple honest answers appreciated. Thanks!
Absolute Naturists arrow Whats the longest time you've been able to stay nude

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 12, 2012

The responses to this topic really shed light on the responses we get on other topics. Seems like there are a lot of you who would like to be nude but don't make the effort to be nude for whatever reasons. this would beg the question, are you really a nudist/naturist OR just like to be naked.
Would you read it different?
Absolute Naturists arrow Social Nudity - A Civil Right or Civil Liberty?

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 5, 2012

Any new thoughts or opinions on this subject? Please jump in...
Absolute Naturists arrow What brought you here?

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 5, 2012

Once again please... New members, go for it! We have many new members since this last surfaced.

How about you folks who have been here a while, any new thoughts or changes in any way?
Absolute Naturists arrow Whats the longest time you've been able to stay nude

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 4, 2012

Excellent! When you think like that it just becomes another thing you do, like brushing your teeth. Do you know anybody that gets excited, catagorizes or need to talk incessantly about brushing their teeth... my point.
Went for a long kayak trip this morning nude, just me and nature as the morning sun was rising and warming... unbelievebly wonderful and natural. Parks Bay, WA.
Absolute Naturists arrow Nudism...one size fits all?

SunBunny

Posted: Aug 31, 2012

yes it does make sense... afterall we all individuals and thats where the sea parts. Nudity is nudity, weather it is for an hour or for a day, weather it be social or private. To my view and my intent with this group has nothing to do with one size, it is about the true appreciation, understanding and enjoyment of being nude. If you do this, living nude will be just an extension when you are able.
Fireprof, have a cold beer please.
Clothing Optional Bed & Breakfasts arrow Pet Friendly

SunBunny

Posted: Aug 31, 2012

How do pets fit into the equation of a Nudist B&B? This applies to both operators and guests. Is it a plus or minus?
Clothing Optional Bed & Breakfasts arrow Location, Location, Location

SunBunny

Posted: Aug 31, 2012

Very good info, thanks. I guess I always thought of it in a resort type mentality but what you said makes so much sense. This really opens the door to my thinking and hopefully others. We need more place like this.

ok, you asked for it... another question for another topic.
Absolute Naturists arrow Nudist-Chicken or Nudist-Egg... which came first?

SunBunny

Posted: Aug 31, 2012

Is the doubling of words using "nudist" a positive or negative for social nudity and if it is going to be done where should the emphais be (i.e. Nudist-Chicken or Chicken-Nudist)?
In another topic the doubling up of words was mentioned like nudist-swinger or gay-nudist or nudist-biker, so forth and so forth. On the surface it would appear that the word nudist is being used to gain attention for marketing or justify a behavior choice. Maybe yes, maybe no. Good, bad, neither, hmmm.
It's a good question, what do you think?
Absolute Naturists arrow Nudism...one size fits all?

SunBunny

Posted: Aug 31, 2012

Ah, ok got it(cleaned up a couple of words also,hope you don't mind). I think that is exactly what I was getting at in another topic.
So in essence what most of you are saying and in agreement with is that there is no such thing as a single pattern of nudist or one-size-fits-all. yes/no or am I down a wrong path.
Absolute Naturists arrow Comparing the Old and the New

SunBunny

Posted: Aug 30, 2012

Please scan through the "ASA Days" group topics/pictures of nudist history and then tell us how you think that compares with how social/recreational nudity is practiced today.
Clothing Optional Bed & Breakfasts arrow Location, Location, Location

SunBunny

Posted: Aug 30, 2012

What can you do to judge or determine, without going to considerable expense, if your location is a good location for a potential Clothing-Optional B&B?
Absolute Naturists arrow Nudism...one size fits all?

SunBunny

Posted: Aug 30, 2012

Eventhough I did not comment on Jansen's post, I also agree with his viewpoints and think he has it nailed down pretty well.
Not sure what Rabbit is talking about. As I see it, our beliefs determine our actions which make our choices. You and only you are responsible for that and the consequences there of.
ASA Days arrow JUNE LOEBER

SunBunny

Posted: Aug 29, 2012

I too enjoy the pictues of history and the styles of those times. More so than the hairdos, I find the naturalness of their nudity very refreshing. It is so easy to get caught up in the fashions, styles and body modification syndromes we are faced with nowdays. Every time I think about doing something to my body, I look at these pics and I revert back to the beauty of naturalness and dump the thought. Thanks for posting these Andy.
Absolute Naturists arrow Nudism...one size fits all?

SunBunny

Posted: Aug 29, 2012

If there is such a thing, I have never seen it!

Would it be nice if there was a "one size fits all for nudists"? Would it be nice to have a "Nudist Manual" to follow? I hope we all smart enough to know that either one of those will never happen and thank goodness for that. I also think we all know that "like minded" is a crock of you know what in the social nudity arena.

If we stop perpetuating ideas like this we stop perpetuating the pressures to be a "correct" nudist or play social nudity correctly according to Hoyle. Just be yourself and enjoy life.
Absolute Naturists arrow Whats the longest time you've been able to stay nude

SunBunny

Posted: Aug 29, 2012

In the Simply Living Nude topic thread I said:
"I think the actuality of "Living Nude" may be the goal for many but the actual transition from a believed need for clothing to the realization that clothing is not needed is the start of simply living nude and where the paradiagm shift occurs in mindset that makes it normal. Nudity is no longer a focal point of existence, it just is.".

What I am hearing from many of you is that you are still holding on to the state of mind that you can only be extended nude if you go to a nudist venue. I bet most of you have never allowed yourself to be nude at home for extended time periods. The focus seems always to be on going somewhere that ALLOWS YOU to be nude verses ALLOWING YOURSELF to be nude where you want and can. Further, this thread clearly demonstrates how much of a focal point is placed on nude time in our lives verses just being nude. As I said before, it's a mind set.
Absolute Naturists arrow Should I should I not invite my ex GF?

SunBunny

Posted: Aug 29, 2012

As you can tell by the posted messages to your topic, nudist are always willing to help out as they can if you ask. Given this, I think if you read the responses to many of the topics revolving around issues like this here on NCH you will find a wealth of experienced advice to help you with your quest.

Seems to me that you ought to think about fixing the homefront before trying to get an "Ex" who is a non-nudist with body acceptance issues to go to a nudist venue that you have even not been honest about going to or wanting to go to yourself. Get my drift...

While this group is not intended to be an Ann Landers column or marital/relationship counseling session, I do appreciate you asking. I also appreciate group members for their heartfelt responses. I have decided to let it remain here because I think your request speaks to the issues that many persons wanting to live or share their social nudity are confronted with yet are stumbling or being held back by things such as your dilemma or fear of loss.
How do you group members see it?

Absolute Naturists arrow Whats the longest time you've been able to stay nude

SunBunny

Posted: Aug 27, 2012

Let me seee, hmmmm, I live in a nudist resort (Natures Resort) in TX 6 months of the winter, I have a home in a nudist park (LARC) in WA for the summer months, I cruise on the boat nude all the time in WA (see the pics)... I guess outside of those times when you have to go to the store or other textile required event.... all the time.
It becomes very difficult to put on clothes when you live like I do.

For the record, I am never "naked", I am "nude" and to me there is a big difference.
Nude Photographers arrow The DORK Look of Self-Portraits

SunBunny

Posted: Aug 26, 2012

Is there a technique or method that you have used to not look like a DORK in your self-portraits?

Another member mentioned this in a post that in many of his self-portraits he comes out looking like a dork. I use a few tricks with body placements that seem to work. You can see them in my "Me and My Kitty" and "On the Rocks" photos. I'll let you figure them out.
Nude Photographers arrow Self-Portraits

SunBunny

Posted: Aug 26, 2012

Hi exbrit, Yep it's there... " A Lovely View", just checked. It's just my legs leading out towards the shore. No Tan Lines is a good one also with shadowing. I agree about the glass and what made this one tougher is that it is acrylic so it has scratches which pick up light(we don't use much glass on the boat). That is why I tried my best just to let in a hint of light to brighten the cognac and the rest of the image visually leading away from the glass. It's always an experiment, shoot and learn. I love digital.
I look at your blinds and have seen many others like that. I agree that the shadowing can bring a different dimension to the image.

PS: Think about joining the Absolute Naturists group. I would love to have you on there.
Nude Photographers arrow What camera equipment do you use?

SunBunny

Posted: Aug 26, 2012

Lately I have been using a little Canon ELPH 310 HS Powershot. It is a great little camera and has features to take some very high quality photos. It works for me because of it's size, menu set-ups, and ease of use. I like to take photos in natural surrounding and very spontaneous one time view sort of things. It works for this and I can take it easily anywhere I go. All my latest pictures on NCH have been taken with it.
Nude Photographers arrow Self-Portraits

SunBunny

Posted: Aug 26, 2012

The self-portraits that I take are the artsy-fartsy type. I like them to portray a feeling that others can apply to their own circumstance.
I have just posted two new photos that are exactly what I am talking about. They are "A Lovely View" and "Cognac Naturally". It's me in both shots. Check them out and tell me what you think.
Texas Nudists and Resorts arrow Nude Beaches in Texas Updates

SunBunny

Posted: Aug 26, 2012

Does anyone have updated info on the nude beaches in Texas? We will be returning soon and I would like to visit some. I will probably adventure out to South Padre's beach since it is the close.
Talk to me please. Maybe we can even get some beach parties going.
NorthWest Outdoor Nudists arrow Wine Country Bares

SunBunny

Posted: Aug 26, 2012

Anybody have any news or info on this non-landed club starting up again? Any info or contact would be apprciated. Supporting AANR-NW clubs is a good thing.
Northwest Nudists arrow Wine Country Bares

SunBunny

Posted: Aug 26, 2012

Hi Roddy,
I read that to. I don't know much about the group but if I hear anything I will post it. You might want to contact the AANR-NW Region folks, the new President is really trying to link folks up. I know that she is on NCH because she is part of my other group, Absolute Naturists.
The wines around here are pretty good.
Absolute Naturists arrow I love to be nude because....

SunBunny

Posted: Aug 24, 2012

I love to be nude because...
well,because I love to be nude.

Hey Detach, only 10 years younger, I'm good with that.
Absolute Naturists arrow AANR & TNS Memberships

SunBunny

Posted: Aug 24, 2012

Thankyou Jim. You are absolutely correct in all you say. You are a much appreciated member of this group and to social nudity.

Absolute Naturists arrow Your Nudist Story

SunBunny

Posted: Aug 24, 2012

We have many new members since the last posting on this topic. I thought it might be a good time to resurrect it.
All you new folks, please share... thanks!
Absolute Naturists arrow I love to be nude because....

SunBunny

Posted: Aug 24, 2012

... it makes me smile!
Absolute Naturists arrow Who should nudist fear most?

SunBunny

Posted: Aug 24, 2012

To boldly cut thru the chaff, Fear itself. When you quit your fear, you stop the phobia, you stop the negative vibe and all becomes a non-issue and we live our lives as WE choose. It is about as simple as that.
I use a Spider Analogy when thinking about this sort of thing. I don't like spiders and it use to drive me crazy when I saw one. I would run around looking for killer spray, try to swat them with a fly swatter, call the orkin man, do whatever I could to eradicate them...all crazy stuff because I feared them. Now I just let them live where they want to be and let them eat the bugs they catch in their webs. I still don't like them but I have allowed myself to learn to live with them and not fear them. It's a peaceful co-existence. Like what we are trying to achieve as nudists.
Absolute Naturists arrow AANR & TNS Memberships

SunBunny

Posted: Aug 24, 2012

That is very true C-O and I totally agree. This topic was not about joining NCH as a premium member, it was about memberships in AANR and/or TNS. In a like vain anyone who supports nudist/naturist oriented businesses are also helping to support the community that supports them. Ever heard of TANR? Anyway, it's all good.
By the way, Jim... I am sooooo glad to hear you are going to join AANR and/or TNS. They both provide their members with excellent publications that just may assist you on the homefront. I think of all our group members you are the one who has has allowed their cheese to be moved the most. I don't think you will ever regret it. I am very happy for you and I appreciate you being part of Absolute Naturists.
Absolute Naturists arrow I love to be nude because....

SunBunny

Posted: Aug 23, 2012

I love to be nude because...
(end this sentence/statement with your ONE (and only one) most sincerest, soul searched, heartfelt, reason that fits your feelings (not thinking) best).

Let's hear from everybody on this one, thanks!
Absolute Naturists arrow AANR & TNS Memberships

SunBunny

Posted: Aug 23, 2012

Ya' know, I keep hearing some of you folks say that you can't afford to join either of these organizations. Is it really that? Do you know that you can join AANR for less than the cost of a carton of cigarettes? I am thinkin' that maybe you just don't want to be directly associated with a nudist organization yet want to enjoy the fruits of their labor. If I told you that you could join AANR for a year for only $42( thats less than 12cents a day), would you join? yes/no/other

As for me, as I have said before, I belong to both AANR and TNS... I support those who support me.
Absolute Naturists arrow Do you consider Nudism a Hobby?

SunBunny

Posted: Aug 23, 2012

My point was not to debate how the group member used the term "hobby" but rather the mindset of hobbyism that was applied to the act of social nudity. I have never viewed social nudity as a hobby since for me it is a way of living and preferred lifestyle as is boating. Some would call boating a hobby, I don't, it is a preferred lifestyle for me. Hence the topic question. My curiosity was raised by applying the term hobby to social nudity which I never thought of before and so I was interested in hearing how others viewed it in their realms of existence, that's all. As for me, I see it social nudity is a good thing no matter what you call it.
Absolute Naturists arrow Do you consider Nudism a Hobby?

SunBunny

Posted: Aug 22, 2012

Do you consider the practice of social nudity (nudism) a hobby?

In a recent post on another topic a group member said "I have too many expensive hobbies already. I'm not making nudism another one." which has lead me to post this topic. So my curiosity has been raised, tell us what you think about this? (Don't be shy on this one...go for it!)
Absolute Naturists arrow My experience with a misconception

SunBunny

Posted: Aug 22, 2012

SEX is always the biggest misconception than non-nudists have about the going'ons at nudist venues. Why not, that relate nudity with sex, duhhh.
One of my many experiences with this that sticks in my mind is one time when I was briefly managing a nudist resort during an ownership change over and I was asked to contact a photographer to take new marketing photos. I brought in a friend that was a professional photographer but not a nudist. He came and spent 2 days taking pictures and soaking up the environment to frame the environment while guests relaxed. He commented to me that he was sort of blown away in that it was just like a regular resort with people doing all the same thing as a textile resort, except they were all nude. It moved his cheese for sure. He also later told me that when he got back to his hometown, all his friends kept asking what it was like to be in a place where everybody was having sex everywhere... to which he laughed and told them it was no different than any other resort and NOBODY was having sex ANYWHERE. He said they were a little (some very) disappointed that nothing juicie occured.... of well, maybe it moved their cheese also.
Absolute Naturists arrow Pole Dancing at Nudist Clubs... Should it be allowed?

SunBunny

Posted: Aug 22, 2012

Lacey,
Then what you are saying is that IF the POLE is in the gym or exercise room of a nudist club, then it is ok...BUT, if it is any place other than that then it is NOT ok, right?

As an aside, I don't think I have ever been to a nudist "fun" function where drinking was not occuring, even if not in excess. This being the case, how does that impact your opinion.

To me, it is not about the dancing with the pole, it is about how you dance with the pole. It is like drinking, drinking is ok, getting drunk is not. My bottom line is that we are adults, we should be able to have adult fun and we should be able to ACT like adults when doing so. Sometimes I think we get to caught up on political correctness and BibleBelt BS. Lifes short, have fun.
NorthWest Outdoor Nudists arrow Go Topless Day Seattle

SunBunny

Posted: Aug 22, 2012

August 26, 2012 2pm to 4pm Westlake Plaza, 4th & Pine.

Are you going to go?
Nude Photographers arrow Profile Photos

SunBunny

Posted: Aug 18, 2012

Tom,
as the Group Owner you have every right to set the standards for membership in your group. Asking for a profile pic should not be a big deal. My advice is be flexibly consistent, but consistent. If these folks have any photography background or expereince this should not be a issue.
Thanks for letting me join your group.
Absolute Naturists arrow The Nudist Click Moment

SunBunny

Posted: Aug 18, 2012

I would tend to believe that we all had one or more of these moments in our lives. Can we get some of our new members to chime in on this topic. Please share,thanks!
Absolute Naturists arrow Go Topless Day

SunBunny

Posted: Aug 18, 2012

Ugh! T-M-I...
Jus'kiddin, I am looking forward to seeing that pic. I think this should be a challenge.

Any other fellas willing to match FireProf?
Absolute Naturists arrow My experience with a misconception

SunBunny

Posted: Aug 18, 2012

Good Job Lacey! It is always fantastic to hear someone not be afraid to stand up and set folks straight. We need more of you.
Also thanks for you first topic post, it's a good one. Anyone else have any experiences dealing with misconceptions?
Absolute Naturists arrow Go Topless Day

SunBunny

Posted: Aug 18, 2012

That would work...
Actually supporting a cause like this is not only a one day thing, that is done for media attention and focus. We all can and should support this cause everyday in what we say and do. The same applies to social nudity.
Absolute Naturists arrow Topless Equalty

SunBunny

Posted: Aug 18, 2012

I tend to think you would find as many men being shirtless as women in a grocery store which is probably very few if any... that's not the point. The point is that a woman would not be arrested for taking her top off wherever and whenever she want, just like men do. That is equality. There would be no need to make political and social statements about being topless, it just would be.
Absolute Naturists arrow What brought you here?

SunBunny

Posted: Aug 14, 2012

Thank you for all the fantastic comment. I truly appreciate it as well as your on going support and participation in the Absolute Naturists group.
Anyone else?
Absolute Naturists arrow Topless Equalty

SunBunny

Posted: Aug 14, 2012

August 26, 2012.... here is your chance to publicly support the equality cause in any way you can.
Absolute Naturists arrow Go Topless Day

SunBunny

Posted: Aug 14, 2012

Dang! Does this mean I have to put a bottom on... ah geez.

Jus' Kiddin. Thanks for posting this Rabbit. We had a very lively and supportive discussion on this previously (Topless Equality, check it out) so I hope that many of you can participate and really support the cause. I am going to try to make the Seattle protest. In any event, I will be Topless (probably nude since we are on the boat in South Sound WA) wherever we are at in supportive hope that we can someday soon have equality in this respect. It just seems so crazy not to.

I think it would be really cool if all our Absolute Naturist female members could post a topless picture and the men post a picture with a bikin top on to support he cause. Shall we try it?
Absolute Naturists arrow What brought you here?

SunBunny

Posted: Aug 13, 2012

It is time we here from all our new members (say in the last 3 months) on this topic. I really like to know what you are thinking and what brings you here. As far as those of you that have been with us for some time, the same applies to you. Have your thoughts changed? Would you like to lend a few words about the group to our newcomers. Everybody, please chime in on this so we can continue to make it a valuable asset for you here on NCH. Thanks! SB
Northwest Nudists arrow Black Ties & Heels at LARC

SunBunny

Posted: Aug 12, 2012


LARC is in Mount Vernon, WA. Go to LARC website for info.

This is coming up again this year.
Saturday, Aug 18, 2012
Go! I think you can still get in.
****

IMPORTANT NOTICE to all LARC Members & Friends

Time is running short for the 3rd Annual

Black Ties & Heels Dinner and Dance
Saturday, August 18, 2012

Cocktails at 6:30pm
Salmon or Steak Dinner at 7pm
Dancing at 8pm

Candlelight to Rockin' Dance Music for your enjoyment

Advance Tickets are only $10 (purchase by Aug 12)

Don't miss a wonderful evening of Fun, Food and Dancing.

>RSVP Immediately to Keith S. at scottsallnatural@gmail.com

NorthWest Outdoor Nudists arrow Black Ties & Heels at LARC

SunBunny

Posted: Aug 12, 2012

This is coming up again this year.
saturday, Aug 18, 2012
Go!

IMPORTANT NOTICE to all LARC Members & Friends

Time is running short for the 3rd Annual

Black Ties & Heels Dinner and Dance
Saturday, August 18, 2001

Cocktails at 6:30pm
Salmon or Steak Dinner at 7pm
Dancing at 8pm

Candlelight to Rockin' Dance Music for your enjoyment


Advance Tickets are only $10 (purchase by Aug 12)

Don't miss a wonderful evening of Fun, Food and Dancing.


RSVP Immediately to Keith S. at scottsallnatural@gmail.com
NorthWest Outdoor Nudists arrow Summer is here..are we having fun yet?

SunBunny

Posted: Aug 12, 2012

Really!...I mean really, are we not having any fun here in the NW? Summer is here, all 2 days at least. Tell us about any fun you have encountered.

The Music Fest at LARC was fun, it's called Rockin'the Park and is always the last weekend in July. They are busy lining up bands for next year.
We are crusing the South Sound this season, getting in some nude time on the boat. It is a lot more populated but everyone we have mentioned the Nude places we are associated with have been very open and accepting, even a little curious.

C'mon folks... tell us what you are up to.
Absolute Naturists arrow Sole nudist in a family

SunBunny

Posted: Aug 11, 2012

Hill_Billy,
in your explanation you used a very telling word... Caught. When you get caught doing something it is usually a bad thing of some sort and a expression guilt. In my thinking you need to work on yourself before working on them or you will get CAUGHT with your pants down. Not good.
Absolute Naturists arrow Promoting Naturist / Nudist Living

SunBunny

Posted: Aug 11, 2012

To answer a previous question, this post is about promoting naturist/nudist LIVING, not clubbing. That is what this group is about. I regard clubs/resorts as recreation not living. Believe it or not, there is a difference. As FireProf has spoken to, your own words are worth much more than an article... just like advertising.
So what have you done to promote Naturist/Nudist Living?
Absolute Naturists arrow Male Crotch Shot Profile Pictures on NCH

SunBunny

Posted: Aug 7, 2012

To get back to the original question I posted for discussion, I never said there was anything wrong with full frontal nudity in a PROFILE picture. I said CROTCH Shots where the emphasis was obviously being placed on the (gasp, good one CO-Home) penis.
Actually, I don't see the need for a full nude pic anyway, this is a nudist site and we should not need auditions. Look at some of the pics of members in this group, or even me for that matter... it is a head shot and that gives you the visual of who I am. (we are not talking about the group picture which is intended to make a different statement)
My point is that a picture is worth a thousand words an speaks volumes. If we all, as nudists/naturists, put that thought before posting a public PROFILE picture on here it would undoubtly go a long way to separating the wheat from the chaffe.
Absolute Naturists arrow Sole nudist in a family

SunBunny

Posted: Aug 6, 2012

I guess it depends on what point you are trying to make. As the old addage goes, you will always attract more bees with honey than vinegar.
I agree with Nudony,there are many shades to the question and there is not a single answer. The point you are trying to make I think is that there is nothing wrong with social nudity. So teach them that first before giving the final exam. Some people are open to learning and some are not. That's just the way it is.
Absolute Naturists arrow Male Crotch Shot Profile Pictures on NCH

SunBunny

Posted: Aug 5, 2012

Fricken-A-Right... I totally agree Wayne. Your words are exactly what I think. Let me repeat them "The crotch photos in my opinion belong in the photo album section. Finally our posture in photos should be similar to the way we would look at a nudist venue." Fricken Amen!
I am not sure how protectd the sight is since anybody can access it and every post can be picked up in a search SO for that "Fricken" reason we should try to be positive examples of social nudity. Most of the guys I have seen look like they are posing for the gay audience anyway. Is that what you all want on this site? I don't. Quit trying to be so "fricken" politically correct, it hurts social nudity for us real ones.
Absolute Naturists arrow Male Crotch Shot Profile Pictures on NCH

SunBunny

Posted: Aug 2, 2012

Rabbit, we are talking about Profile Pictures. I looked thru many female profiles and I didn't find any crotch shots, only suggestive ones which I named some. Maybe you are looking at the additional pictures that some women have added within their profiles... you know those pictures that you have to really search for.
Maybe you should name the "dozens" of female crotch shots in the Perv Bait topic for us so Brian can look into it. Are you good with that also?

Absolute Naturists arrow Male Crotch Shot Profile Pictures on NCH

SunBunny

Posted: Aug 2, 2012

What do you think about the Male Crotch Shot profile pictures on NCH?

This post came as a result to a message sent to me regarding the "Perv Bait Women" post. The sender felt that this was an equally negative factor on NCH. Most of the posts of this nature by men have blank profiles. I would have to agree that by posting a picture accentuating the male penis with or without a completed profile is the same in concept.

To Brian's credit, the number of such pictures were actually much fewer than before as with the females. He has a tough job in this regard but seems to be doing good.

Here are a few profile examples I came up with:
> Williamb
> Mikeo
> Hub
> Gasdea
> Hwnmanu
> RussG
Absolute Naturists arrow When you just have to cover up in a nudist setting

SunBunny

Posted: Aug 2, 2012

Have any of you ever heard of "nude intelligent"?

It simply means, IF you are burning up in a certain place... cover up -or- IF you are getting eaten up or bit in a certain place... cover up -or IF you are freezing in a certain place... cover up and so forth and so forth. I do it, it only makes sense. In TX we have No-Seeums when the wind is not blowing and they bite. In WA we have mosquitos and they bite, at Lake Powell in the summer they have Sun that will fry a dozen eggs at the same time not to mention your body. Been there and done all that. Guess what, I cover up.
This is not the same as covering up to for the sake of covering your nudity which I don't do.
Absolute Naturists arrow Nude/clothed interaction

SunBunny

Posted: Aug 1, 2012

Isn't this really about co-existing without judgement or fear... by anyone. To me that is the epitome of living naturally.

I agree that "preaching" nudity is not a good thing. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink. Everyone needs to decide for themselves. That way it is solely an inner decision and true acceptance that creates the mindset tht clothing is not neccessary for living.
Absolute Naturists arrow Perv Bait Women

SunBunny

Posted: Jul 31, 2012

I recently recieved a message from a member of NCH (not Absolute Naturists) about my earlier post. I thought it and my response were worth sharing since it gets to the point of the topic very succinctly. Here it is:

Message> Subject: BrandyOnTheRocks.
Although she doesn't participate at NCH much, Brandy is for real. Just ask Brian.

My response> I don't believe I ever said she was not real and I do not need to ask Brian. The topic I named her on was "Perv Bait Women". The picture is not the epitome of social nudity. It is the type of picture that is sexually suggestive and attracts men who seek those type of pictures on the internet. It also reinforces the belief that social and recreational nudity and sex are aligned. Now if you add that to a totally blank profile you have the point I was getting at. These are the earmarks that I named her by as a Perv Bait Woman. I am not changing my opinion.
I appreciate you offering your thoughts,
SB
_______________________

Any thoughts folks?



Absolute Naturists arrow Nude/clothed interaction

SunBunny

Posted: Jul 29, 2012

had another experience with this yesterday. I attended the "Rock'n the Park" outdoor music festival at LARC (a WA Clothing-Optional club) and there were people completely dressed, topless women, and folks totally nude all side by side... enjoying the music and having a good time. It can a happen if we allow it to.
Absolute Naturists arrow Perv Bait Women

SunBunny

Posted: Jul 29, 2012

To Brian's credit, much has change for the good here on NCH regarding this topic since posting this topic. I made a recent review of the women on here and I only came up with eight that I would consider questionable. This is a huge step in the right direction. Good for you Brian, keep up the good work.
My eight questionables:
KuKu, SwtLisa, Nakedbuns, modelchic, BrandyOnDaRocks, Mis Molly, Anjoc40, Latina_22. Some of these have not logged on for a long time so they probably gave up on using this site for their intentions.
I think we all on Absolute Naturist should keep a watchful vigil for persons who are here for reasons other than positive social/recreational nudity.
Northwest Nudists arrow Is the NW really Nudist Land?

SunBunny

Posted: Jul 28, 2012

Is the NW really a place for nudist activity and life? Honestly, it is cold, wet and soggy. Beautiful yes, cold, wet and soggy still. Most nude activities have to take place indoors which limit their existence. Even at the beaches you have to pick a good day and hope it stays that way all day. I guess I am not feeling it, are you?
Absolute Naturists arrow KEEP CALM — IT’S ONLY A …

SunBunny

Posted: Jul 28, 2012

Movng on to a lighter note...
The picture posted by Nudony back on July 25 on the differences in thinking between males and female led me to these two captions of my own:
(Lead in with what was said but what I heard)
*Male with a coffee cup -> Wow, fresh creme and sugar!
*Female with coffee cup -> Does he really think I want a biscotti to nibble on with my coffee?

Just my silly thinking, I know it is kind of off topic but worth maybe a little laugh to lighten the air. It is still about how we mentally process nudity.
SB
Absolute Naturists arrow KEEP CALM — IT’S ONLY A …

SunBunny

Posted: Jul 28, 2012

Dave88, is that the best you can do? BooHoo, so sorry. You earn respect, you don't just get it.

The majority of topics and posts in this group are for and about Absolute Naturists... not wannabes or thinkstheyares. Intelligent and well thought out comments are always appreciated, and certianly by me. Those others... well what can I say.
Absolute Naturists arrow Simply Living Nude

SunBunny

Posted: Jul 28, 2012

You can be a victim of your environment or your environment can be a victim of you... your choice, it is a mindset either way. That is my point I don't care where you live or work. All that other stuff is just excuses we make for ourselves.
I totally understand the requirement (not need) to wear clothing by community norms. How much focus you put on it is the point. I like to dress up, it's fun and makes me feel sexy sometimes. In my thinking, this is "dress up" time and outside my normal living mindset. Even indigenous tribes do it for a variety of ceremonies. It has a purpose but is not how they live or think about clothing.

Speaking of "dress up" time, let's face it, clothing is sexy. Clothing accentuates our bodies and the sexual parts of our bodies, that is what it is designed to do. When you pick out that certain tie in the morning, why do you pick a certain one... because it makes you look good and makes you feel attractive in your view of self, right? Nude living is not sexy in and of itself. There is no need to pick out anything to make you look good or feel attractive. Nothing is pushed, shoved, lifted, squeezed or color matched. It is a nude body with arms, legs, feet, hair, scars and so forth. ok, brush your teeth, take a shower and comb your hair, but that is it. This may be a reason why people try to adorn their bodies, to be sexy which go's back to the correlation of the percieved need to wear clothing or adornment. It is a very insecure way to live your life. Think about it.
Absolute Naturists arrow KEEP CALM — IT’S ONLY A …

SunBunny

Posted: Jul 28, 2012

...and what did say in my earlier post... huh huh, I knew it.
I think what Andy was getting at is that it is not about who has the bigger spear as much as everyone in tribe has a spear, so what. With our nude bodies exposed we have the unique ability to understand the concept, yet many of you men still gravitate to the locker room porno mentality. The question is why... it's only a penis, get over it Tarzans.
I do think that this type of issue is more prevalent with the clubbing, home or wanna-be nudist rather than the naturist nudist. In nature sexuality is part of life, for the others mentioned it is a focus of life.
Jane with a P
Absolute Naturists arrow Improving Your Life... Any Suggestions?

SunBunny

Posted: Jul 28, 2012

More valiant than most my friend...
I totally agree and have shared many experiences like you have. It is not easy to move to a place of happiness in your life, but the treacherous journey is well worth it when you arrive.
Excellent quote from Mr. Shakespear. Thanks for sharing.
Absolute Naturists arrow Simply Living Nude

SunBunny

Posted: Jul 26, 2012

I think the actuality of "Living Nude" may be the goal for many but the actual transition from a believed need for clothing to the realization that clothing is not needed is the start of simply living nude and where the paradiagm shift occurs in mindset that makes it normal. Nudity is no longer a focal point of existence, it just is.
NorthWest Outdoor Nudists arrow Hiking on the Peninsula

SunBunny

Posted: Jul 25, 2012

Good info, thanks Cliff.
Is there any place for kayaking that you have come across?
The encountering of dressed hikers, especially females, would be a great story to share over in the Absolute Naturists group in the topic about interacting with people who are dressed when you are not.
Absolute Naturists arrow Nudism philosophies and paradoxes

SunBunny

Posted: Jul 25, 2012

Totally agree Rollercoaster! Many nudists do mouth the words of positivity for social nudity BUT retain the attachment to sexuality layered within their mindset. In their defense, it is not an easy thing to detach from, especially if you live with one foot in and one foot out with constant fear or negative reinforcement from the textile philosphies on social nudity. It is a clear example of a paradox within the social nudity advocate arena.
As far as "colonies", I got no problem with it either... if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck... it's a duck and not a swan.

BTW, thanks for getting this topic back on track and departing from the non-relate debate. Anybody else have thoughts on THIS topic.
Absolute Naturists arrow Nude/clothed interaction

SunBunny

Posted: Jul 24, 2012

Recently we had the Critical Mass (the NW equilvalent of Burning Man) event held on our LARC club grounds in WA. They had 1,000 participants this year by tickets sold. In the past (held 3 times before), there has been kind of a dividing line between the CM participants and us nudists who are there. They called us the naked people. This year I noticed a difference. We were not the naked people, just nice people who were accepting them into our little world without judgement. They are not nudists as a whole. However, it was a live and let live atmosphere this year. Everybody was just doing and interacting as people, clothed, nude, semi-nude, openly changing attire (they do alot of dress up stuff) whether they were nudist or not. Mothers were letting their young children walk around and play nude without any concern. Nudity was not a big deal or focal point this year. Everyone was just accepted as people, it was cool and different.
Some of our club members decided to have an impromptu Nude Walk Parade and many of the Burners joined in, some nude with others for the first time. It was a good experience for them and us nudists.
Absolute Naturists arrow Female Body Acceptance and Social Nudity

SunBunny

Posted: Jul 23, 2012

Good for you and your wife. Her issue with weight can always be a goal even after going to a nudist resort. It is a good and healthy one to work towards no matter what. What I have learned about goals is that they are for us to work towards and achieve... not to limit our life. Life is to short for that. Hope your visit to a nude venue is positive for both of you, I am sure it will be.
Absolute Naturists arrow Nudism philosophies and paradoxes

SunBunny

Posted: Jul 23, 2012

My comment was meant to expose the lack of logic behind AANR's view that social/recreational nudity is positive and healthy -BUT- only in appropriate locations. To me this totally defies logic and is a contradiction of the belief/philosphy that social/recreational nudity is a positive and healthy way to live and recreate.

This is a excellent topic to make us think about what we hear, experience and think in the nudist/naturist world. I apreciate Nudony's thought provoking posting of this topic. I did not intend my post to take it off topic as it appears to be doing. I posted New_Adventurer's question/post in a different topic for you all to give your thoughts on. Thanks.


Absolute Naturists arrow Where is a Nudist's appropriate place?

SunBunny

Posted: Jul 23, 2012

Why must it (social/recreational nudity) be confined to a backyard, remote trail, beach, or resort? Why can we not adopt the Scandinavian attitude in the USA?

(This question was asked by member New_Adventurer in response to another topic. It is a good question to ask and get your thoughts on as a separate subject/topic so I am posting here for your input and thoughts. Thank you New_Adventurer for the idea.)
Absolute Naturists arrow Nudism philosophies and paradoxes

SunBunny

Posted: Jul 22, 2012

hmmmm, interesting... very interesting.... excellent topic.
ok lemme try this one:
How dare you call my "nudist resort" a "nudist colony".... uhhhhh, maybe because it is out in the woods far removed from any civilization, has 10' walls around it and you have to have qualify and meet certain conditions to go in it.

I don't know why nudist get sooooo upset about that, maybe they don't want to be compared to leper's. So why then have we so graciously accepted the "appropriate locations" philosphy put out by a leading nudist based orgaization that believes social nudity is healthy and positive... but only in appropriate locations? Does this somehow reinforce the belief that nudity is not healthy or positive existence. Is it rather a harmful, contagious and unacceptable way to exist in a normal civilization? Wasn't a Leper Colony an appropriate location for leper's? I'm confused by this paradox.


Absolute Naturists arrow Nude/clothed interaction

SunBunny

Posted: Jul 22, 2012

I think it is very common to have this type knee-jerk response when first encountering a situation like that. It was these type of situations that really helped put me at ease and comfort with being totally nude in front of anyone anywhere.
NorthWest Outdoor Nudists arrow Summer is here..are we having fun yet?

SunBunny

Posted: Jul 19, 2012

Once again it semed like summer was never going to arrive... but it did FINALLY!
have you done anythng fun yet or do you have plans? Tell us what you are up to.
Absolute Naturists arrow Photoshopped Pictures: what Are your thoughts?

SunBunny

Posted: Jul 18, 2012

It just dawned on me that this topic is smack dab in the middle of the negative body image problem that nudists talk about trying to get over. I don't think naturists are as much into this as the clubbing nudists.
I have had some of my pictures photo shopped before, but not for any nudist/naturist publication or use. Heck, look at my picture for a representation of this group. I could have easily had this picture wittled down to hottie size but why. It is me, I am good with that, end of story. I have more important things to be concerned about rather than how I look to you.

I say anybody on NCH who insists on having their picture photo shopped before posting it on here definitely has some body image issues they need to get over. They are not helping the body acceptance mantra and in fact perpetuating the problem. I say get over it and get real!
Absolute Naturists arrow KEEP CALM — IT’S ONLY A …

SunBunny

Posted: Jul 18, 2012

Rabbit,
I don't think this topic is about Big Dick Story swapping. In fact stories like you posted may well be the type of thing that instills greater focus and promotion of the small penis envy syndrom that hinders many men from participating in social nudity. Let's not get into that.

Andy,
not sure of the intent of your topic but I think it is to illuminate the realization of insecurities of body image with males as compared to only females. Please correct me if I am wrong.

If that is the case, yes I can see where males, while not all that concerned with having a perfect 6-pack (not in the ice chest either) can fall victim to the small penis envy syndrom in the social nudity arena. I am not sure how men can get beyound that. Maybe some of you fellas can offer some suggestions.


Absolute Naturists arrow Female Body Acceptance and Social Nudity

SunBunny

Posted: Jul 16, 2012

Ya' know, I have even heard it reported that some of the Victoria Secret models think they are fat...geez louise!
Thanks for thoughtful responses so far. What I was thinking when I posted this topic was that we usually hear men telling women to just visit a club/venue and they will like being nude. Many times this approach is met with negativity. Maybe the approach should be more inward first. Like getting the women to talk about their body hangups privately and with you first. Get by those before venturing into an exposed state might work better. Every time I have mentioned going to a nude venue to a non-nudist but somewhat curious female friend (mind you this is female to female )the first response out of their mouth is usually "not with my lumps and bumps", ""not with these pale legs" or "maybe if I loose some weight". If you listen, all these messages are saying where they have their hangups about thier bodies. AhHa, now we can start to address the issues one by one.
I guess what I am trying to say is maybe helping resolve the root issues before the race starts is better than trying to reach the finish line first. Listening to what the women in your lives say is key to minimizing the issues. Entering a race requires confidence and so does social nudity. As FireProf said earlier, most men don't give a crap how they look. I have to agree but I know for a fact that women do give a Big Crap on how they look or think they look, and especially around other women.
Absolute Naturists arrow How To: Talk Nude Quietly

SunBunny

Posted: Jul 16, 2012

WOW, another excellent story/experience. Thanks DiabloBlanco. It just go's to show that the world is opening up a bit more and we can all help it with execellent opprtunities like this. Maybe I am full of it, but I am begining to think many people are wanting to find out a little more about nude recreation opportunities but don't know where to look for good or credible info. We can all be the credible info resources, why not.

In addition to what you did Diablo, I usually carry small printed card (like the kind you print yourself on simple card stock) with the websites of resources like AANR /Naturist Society/ local clubs and my email address. I have handed them out at the grocery store, nail salon, food places, department stores and other places where the opportunity arose. That way you don't have to get into a long discussion about it right there and then and they don't have to try and remember the info. They can look resources up on their own time and explore them. To me, this is definitely talking nude quietly, the topic of this post. Maybe you can try it and tell us how it works for you. So far my experiences have been very positive.
Absolute Naturists arrow Slogans for your towel

SunBunny

Posted: Jul 15, 2012

Now appearing
on the
BBC

(Beach Butt Chair)
Absolute Naturists arrow How To: Talk Nude Quietly

SunBunny

Posted: Jul 15, 2012

Thanks for that great story JP!
Jim, you are absolutely correct in your statement that we do not know how people will react until you tell them, until then it is just a guess.
It has always been my experience that when you tell someone who knows you, they usually react in a positive way because they know you and know you are a just a regular person like them, not a weirdo sex deviant that some percieve nudists to be. Again, Good Job!
Absolute Naturists arrow Female Body Acceptance and Social Nudity

SunBunny

Posted: Jul 14, 2012

Do you think body acceptance may be the biggest issue and deterrent for more women becoming involved and enjoying social nudity? Do you think the body acceptance concept and issue is different for females than it is for males? Tell us your thoughts.
Absolute Naturists arrow Gay Men vs Nudist Beaches

SunBunny

Posted: Jul 14, 2012

I don't think San Onofe Beach is the center of the universe. There are many beaches that avail or have availed themselves to nude enjoyment. Some have been impacted by gay cruising. I ws hoping to get your thoughts on this, not San Onofre.

This topic came to my mind as I was anchored on our boat in front of the old fabled Teddy Bear Cove in Bellingham WA. It was a locals clothing optional small beach for many years until the state took it over. They were not going to do anything to change it until nearby residents complained of gay men frequenting it and having sex openly. That did it in. Now it is only textiled and not used very much. It is a nice little cove/beach and it is a real shame the gay boys had to "F" it up.
Absolute Naturists arrow Gay Men vs Nudist Beaches

SunBunny

Posted: Jul 13, 2012

Do gay men have an impact on the creation and/or retention of nudist/clothing optional beaches?
Your thoughts please.
Texas Nudists and Resorts arrow Understanding Nudity Laws in Texas

SunBunny

Posted: Jul 9, 2012

I was wondering if anybody had any new information or news on this topic. I was hoping things might loosen up a bit before I get back to TX this coming winter.
Anybody got something to share?
Absolute Naturists arrow Summer Fun

SunBunny

Posted: Jul 9, 2012

So tell us, what is the most nude fun time you have had so far this summer?
Absolute Naturists arrow What Would be your dream community

SunBunny

Posted: Jul 3, 2012

This is a good and fun topic. Express your ideas and thoughts... but let's stay on topic please.
Absolute Naturists arrow Nudist Clothing

SunBunny

Posted: Jul 1, 2012

Exactly! Thanks for saying it little more direct than me and CO tried to do. This why we need more women to chime in on these topics.
So what do you think about that fellas?
Absolute Naturists arrow HOT SPRINGS

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 30, 2012

opps, ok, sorry it was just very buried and I guess I got lost in the story. Sometimes titling the topic with a direction like "Hot Springs Experiences" and leading off with the question gets a greater response. Just a thought for the future. Thanks for the post.
Absolute Naturists arrow HOT SPRINGS

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 30, 2012

TommyGunn,
nice story but what is the topic that people can respond to. This is more like a journal entry. Please repost and clarify. Thanks!
Absolute Naturists arrow Underwear, Outerwear, and Swimwear

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 29, 2012

As I sat on the foredeck of the boat today, at our dock, I was wearing a small bikini top and shorts. Of all the passerbys no one even gave it a second look or thought (well a few guys gave a second look). Now if I had been topless, I wonder what the reaction would have been. We won't ever know, but I am suspecting it would have been different. Just that one little article of cover-up can make a diffenernce on how we accept the norms of society. It just does not make sense to me.
Absolute Naturists arrow Photoshopped Pictures: what Are your thoughts?

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 29, 2012

Since we have been talking about updating pictures in another topic, let's hear what some of the new members (or anyone else) have to say about this topic. It is becoming easier to do and more commonplace. Thoughts?
Absolute Naturists arrow Reactions to Being a Nudist

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 29, 2012

This is such a good topic I thought I would bring back up again. We all have continuing experiences with this. Some are sad, some are funny, some are, well, just are some. Have you had any experiences you would like to share. Please do. Thanks!
Absolute Naturists arrow Updating your photo. Should it be mandatory?

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 28, 2012

Thanks FireProf! It is a good pic and it was a beautiful place to be nude. It will stay in my collection for a while. However I decided to change it again to something a little more simple and more in keeping with everyone else. It is simply a picture of me on a friends boat. It was a beautiful day, we were all enjoying the sunny day totally nude. It was a random shot that I liked. It was either this one or the donut one... I decided to save that one for another update.
See what you started TommyGunn...lol.
Absolute Naturists arrow Updating your photo. Should it be mandatory?

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 27, 2012

Ya' know... just a real photo would be good. I have turned down a lot of people who have reqested to join Absolute Naturist who would not offer up a picture or had a bogus one. This is one of the group requirements for joining. I guess that means it is mandatory to have a picture, at least for us and I see nothing wrong with that.
As far as mandatory UPDATING, no, but it would be nice. Actually I think I will do that right now. Lemme look for a hot chick photo on the internet, LOL.
Thanks for the post Tommy.

PS - When you update you are photoless until the Big Kahuna approves it which sometimes takes a while. No worries.
Absolute Naturists arrow AANR & TNS Memberships

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 27, 2012

I hope you do. I really enjoy their quarterly magazine "N" that comes with your membership automatically. A great deal and an excellent publication for outdoor naturist based stories and information. As I said before, I belong to both since I firmly believe we should support those who support us. I do tend to relate more to TNS... just more my thing.
Absolute Naturists arrow Nudity in Foreign Countries

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 26, 2012

Thanks Simon... that is really great information you shared. I for one would like to hear more fom you on this as things evolve. I liked what you said about moving away from the "club" stuffiness to something more appealing to the new generations. That is exactly what we are doing with our club at the moment. it may well be the answer to declining memberships and non-joiner mentality. Again thanks.
Absolute Naturists arrow Nudist Clothing

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 26, 2012

Diablo... you weren't. I think you are on the same page as a few of us others on the subject. I appreciate your viewpoint.
Absolute Naturists arrow Nudist Clothing

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 26, 2012

The two original questions asked in this post by Sarasota were:
1) Why do females cover their lower half and still wish to be called 'Nudists'?
2)Are we approaching a catagory of 'Topless Nudists'?

My answer to Question #1:
Because it is our choice and we women, as people are free to make that choice. It does not make us any less of a Nudist than you believe yourself to be. Actually the two of us women who have posted on this topic are probably more of nudists than the majority of you men on NCH. We don't feel a need to critique or judge what you cover or don't cover. Most women I know, myself included, do not view social nudity as naked time nor do we apply sex to the equation. Men generally do.

My answer to Question #2:
No. The thrust and inference of the question is based on the belief that Topless refers to women only. This is the same mentality that has declared toplessness for women illegal and for men a non-issue. Very male based,discriminatory and sexually driven. In this context, if there was such a thing as topless nudity, it would be a positive step for top free equality. It would stop the sexuality men derive from female breasts. Last time I checked, most men have breasts also (some even bigger that women's).

Other thoughts:
First of all thanks to sarasota for the posting of these questions. So far, only a few of you have answered the questions. The rest of you have just pontificated from within your own male view or opinion of the nudist world and women. I think the two women, CO-Home and myself have clearly answered the first question. Most of you did not even hear or understand what we said... and then you wonder why more women are not at nudist clubs or why you can't get a women to accompany you. Is that really a wonderment.. I mean really?
Ok, off my soapbox, Would anybody like to answer the two questions specifically?
Absolute Naturists arrow Nudist Norms and Styles by Geography

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 25, 2012

This question (post) came to my mind s a result of what Brian said in a different topic.
Do norms and syle change by geography, I would have to say yes in my experience.
Examples with number of clubs/venues I have experienced:
In the NorthWest (4 clubs), some type of cover-up is usually close at hand. That is due to cold and rain any time of the year. Most nudists in th NW are not all jazzed about runway fashion, they are more casual and earthy. They do what is comfortable and nobody minds.

In Southern CA (2 clubs), I saw more of a sexuality and glitz in attire and manner. Especially coming from "the Valley" women (San Fernndo Valley). Designer Sunglasses and High Heels were around the pool. It was a very cliqueish atmosphere and everybody seemed to be in everybodys business and trying to outdo each other. oh well, thats LA for you.

In Palm Springs, it was Bling. Wealth was abundent and no attempt to hide it was made. It was not brandished, it was just there. Very trendy and stylish. No pretenses. Friendly but upper crust for the most part.

In Arizona (1 club) it was more of a desert rat thing. People were just hanging out nude in the hot sun and walking around the cactus. 100+ temp is to hot for clothes. The evening dances were the sexy dress up times, when it cooled down. Easy bunch of friendly people. People seemed to just enjoy themselves with what they had.

In Texas (2 clubs), it is the Winter Texans (snowbirds) primariy and they come more from the Bible Belt states. Conserative and concerned what others will think about their participation in nudism, even with family members. Cover-ups go on pretty fast and sarongs in abundence, even at NUDIST not CO places. Down home and neighborly folks though and very nice too. As for the real Texans I have met, very nice and they do what they want to do with a Texas swagger. Cool people when it comes to nudity and lot of land too.

In Mexico (1 venue), everyone was nude and just having fun. Yes they had money or at least doing very well, but just there to have a good time and soak up the sun all over. No cares No worries. Fun and friendly and almost always totally nude and barefoot.
Absolute Naturists arrow Pole Dancing at Nudist Clubs... Should it be allowed?

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 25, 2012

Rabbit...
I don't believe you are the NCH Photo Police. Brian is well aware of what is posted and Andy is a long standing and responsible member and group owner here on NCH. I believe Andy was just having some fun and nothing wrong with that. Brian can decide what is appropriate and what is not, not you. Appreciate your concern.
Let's get back to this really interesting topic.
Absolute Naturists arrow Nudist Norms and Styles by Geography

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 25, 2012

Do nudist norms and styles change by geographical location? For those of us who have had the opportunity to visit nudist venues and beachs in different locations, we would probably say yes. What do you think or what have been your experiences with this?
Absolute Naturists arrow Nudist Clothing

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 25, 2012

I swear... geez, I wear a sarong when I want to. It does not make me any less of a nudist. It is NOT So-Wrong. It is about choices and NOT trying to cram us all in one big pot. I have lots of sarongs and in many different colors and styles.... Who cares. What you guys don't get is that it is about how I feel at the moment, not how you feel. It is about ME. I think most women would agree with me on this point.

My body is my body and I have no problem with that. I wear it as best I can with what I have. I am a nudist, and I enjoy being nude. I am also a woman and a individual. With that said, why should you care what I am covering or not... are you looking, probably. I don't wear sarongs to be sexy for the guys. I am sure there are some women who do. I can only speak for myself. I sometimes wear them to make ME feel sexy or feminine internally. Obviously you guys don't understand this as we women do. Again, It is My Choice. You do your thing and I will do mine... and I don't stare at your packages nor do I care about your packages dummies. One more thing, this So-Wrong War wreaks of nudist elitism. And why are there not more women in nudism or here on NCH? I think you have your answer.
Absolute Naturists arrow Nude/clothed interaction

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 20, 2012

I have had a number of situations where I was totally nude and the person I was talking to or interacting with was totally clothed. Here are a couple of real life examples:
Hidden Beach, MX - Staff is totally clothed, guests are almost totally nude all the time. Me totally nude with the resturant staff, bar staff, guest staff, etc. It was very confortable for both of us. Like no big deal.

Natures Resort, TX - With contractors, contractor employees, USPS, UPS, Fed Ex and textile friends of people who live there like we do. Actually it is kind of empowering. You can tell that sometimes it is a little mind bending for them but they clue in that it is normal for you and they respect that. Afterall, they are on my turf.

I think every nudist should experience this. It helps your confidence level in your nudity and body acceptance... and their's too.
Absolute Naturists arrow Nude with a Movie Star

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 14, 2012

Just thought of one more...
Paul McCartney!
I think he would be fun to hang with. He could use some sun also.
Huh, not a movie star... Hard Days Night, Help! and a few others. Basically I think musicians bring a different flair that is cool. hmmmmmm
Absolute Naturists arrow Does Being a Nudist Take the Thrill Out of Life?

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 13, 2012

No, just makes it more comfortable and real.

Like FireProf, I still have "pinch me" moments to insure I am not dreaming. For example, like when I was standing in the surf at the Hidden Beach Resort and all the little fish swimming around my feet and legs... there I was totally nude totally in sync with nature and in an unbelievable beautiful setting...wow, pinch me please.
Absolute Naturists arrow Nude with a Movie Star

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 13, 2012

ok... for me, Daniel Craig. I like a guy who is a little rugged yet can be elegant in a tux. He seems like a down to earth gentleman.

On the female side, Sophia Loren. Even though she is older, she still remains incredibly sexy and sophisticted in her deameanor. I could dig sitting with her talking, both of us totally nude, enjoying a glass of wine on the Italin riveria.

Have to agree, Salma seems like she would be fun to be around, I could easily galpal with her.

How's for that CO? By the way, I find it interesting that the guys are just choosing women. Why is that? I have no problem being with either men or women when I am nude.
Absolute Naturists arrow Who should nudist fear most?

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 12, 2012

DUDE! Put an apron on and Bake It, geez...just try not to drag anything in the cake batter. LMAO also.
On second thought, maybe plant another tree. LMAOx2.
ok... cool, over and out.
Absolute Naturists arrow Los Angeles World Naked Bike Ride

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 12, 2012

Thanks for reminded us JP. I wish I could be there, I would ride in a heartbeat.
One of the things that I find annoyig about events like this is that they want to make a unity statement by doing it all on the same date. Sure it helps with the marketing and promoton... but what happens when the weather is not suitable in your neck of the woods on that date or time of the year. I would rather see events like this happen when it has the best chance of success in your area and the locals would know that. It is still making a statement but just continually and that would be good.
Enjoy the ride!
Absolute Naturists arrow Who should nudist fear most?

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 12, 2012

Instead of worrying or waiting for the right moment... be a good old fashion kind of neighbor and take them a "Welcome To the Neighborhood" gift like a nice yummy carrot cake with that on iced on the top of it. Don't do wine, wrong initial message. By doing this it gives you an opportunity to meet face to face in a positive fashion and the first crack at giving them info on the neighborhood on your terms. They are probably feeling a little apprehensive just being the new kids on the block. At the same time casually tell them that you and your wife like to enjoy your backyard nude but that it is nothing wild and crazy. It you get a positive feeling you can invite them over for dinner and explore further.
By not doing anything you leave it all up to their imagination and that is never good. Just my thoughts nd how I would approach it.
Absolute Naturists arrow Teaching You Children About Social Nudity

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 8, 2012

There is an excellent article on Page 9 of the June 2012 issue of AANR's "The Bulletin".
It is by Melissa Lapier, Aunt Nekkid, as she calls herself. It clearly, at least to me, talks about our influences and societies influences on children... especilly girls.
Read it if you can. She has a blog at www.barelymelissa.com
Absolute Naturists arrow What Would be your dream community

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 8, 2012

I think I smoked the same thing once upon a time, hmmmm can't remember. My remaining brain cells won't let me provide a deeper comment. Thanks for the fun post and bringing this topic back to the surface.

Everyone, there are a lot of excellent topics that have gotten buried. Scan through them, bring some up, and give us your thoughts.
SB
Absolute Naturists arrow National NUDE Donut Day

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 1, 2012

I had me a couple of doughnuts from Rockets (see earlier post from AndyBee) today. My picture should be posted soon I hope. This is my favorite holiday or whatever. The pic is me sitting in our boat enjoying that good ol' doughnut. It is cold and rainy outside today so I decided to eat them inside... intelligent nude they call it I think.
Absolute Naturists arrow Teaching You Children About Social Nudity

SunBunny

Posted: May 31, 2012

Children vs Adults Only keeps popping it's head up here and there. The perspectives are very wide ranging and passionate. But...
what are you doing to teach your children about the positives and naturalness of social nudity? Are you relying on venues and others to do this for you? That was the primary topic of this thread and one that maybe we should revisit. Please chime in, thanks.
Absolute Naturists arrow National NUDE Donut Day

SunBunny

Posted: May 31, 2012

Tomorrow is FRIDAY, JUNE 1, 2012... National Dougnut Day,
and better yet National NUDE Doughnut day. Yes, last year I proclaimed it as National NUDE Doughnut Day. Why can't we nudist enjoy it our way? I will... will you?
If you do, don't forget to try posting a pic on NCH showing it and name our group (AN) as the instigator or leader of it.
Do a search on the internet to find out where they are giving free doughnuts.
Absolute Naturists arrow Is Nudist Life Really a Lonely Life?

SunBunny

Posted: May 31, 2012

It IS what you make IT. This is true no matter what it i.
Nudist life has never been lonely for me but then again I have never hidden my love for social nudity and nude living. I am not ashamed of it nor do I care about losing "friends" because of it. A friend is a friend no matter what. Those others are only aquaintances and they can go as far as I am concerned. Usually they don't have a life of their own anyway.
We have many friends inside and outside the nude community. How you view your social nudity is how they will view social nudity. This even applies to personal relationships. An honest person has nothing to hide. Get over the shame and guilt you may feel about social nudity, or get out of social nudity. Be real.
Absolute Naturists arrow Adult Only Nude Resort Policies. Is there an issue?

SunBunny

Posted: May 31, 2012

sunnyLA,
What a bunch of CRAP! Obviously you have not much of a clue on how much money it takes to own and run a place like that. So what as to where they lived and if they were wealthy or not, they were offering a nice nudist venue for nudists to enjoy. Stogey Grumps have nothing to do with it either. You will find those everywhere ...especially in the RV type places. For the most part older nudists like kids and have grandkids of their own.
There are three issues that made this thing into such a mess in my opinion. One, a money grubbing loser attorney. Two, the waffling of answers given by the owners. That is a mistake in any business. Three, the stupidity of in fighting by nudist or naturists on the issue rather than standing behind the larger need for quality nude venues who subscribe to postive nudism.
The bottom line... Conquer and Divide... does that ring any bells people. Many of you have fallen into that trap sorry to say. Who wins, certainly not nudists.
You don't need a nudist venue in Palm Springs to teach your children that social nudity is natural and good. They learn that at home from your example. Be a good example and enjoy life.
Absolute Naturists arrow Is Nudist Life Really a Lonely Life?

SunBunny

Posted: May 30, 2012

I hear it said from many persons in the nudist realm, usually and most frequently from those who are new to social nudity, that being a nudist is lonely life. What do you think and what experiences can you share?
NorthWest Outdoor Nudists arrow AANR Board Elections

SunBunny

Posted: May 28, 2012

For AANR Members: I don't normally post electoral type items BUT this is different.
This time, and probably for the first time we Nor'West folks have the opportunity to elect people to the AANR Board that have our side of the country knowledge. I get a little frustrated with always having the east coasters dominate the organization. Hence I am writng this and it is my own personal opinion.
Please vote for the West Coast Slate:
Brian Spence - President
Dave Landman - Vice President
Sharon McLeod - Secretary/Treasure

I personally know Brian and Sharon and they are very good people with their hearts in the right place. I am sure Dave is also.
Thanks,
Cassandra aka SunBunny
Absolute Naturists arrow Introduce Yourself

SunBunny

Posted: May 28, 2012

Welcome Tina,
I look forward to hearing from you more in the future. We need more input from the female perspective so I am counting on you to chime in as much as you can.
SB
Absolute Naturists arrow Who should nudist fear most?

SunBunny

Posted: May 23, 2012

FireProf & Jim... this in not a marital advice topic or group.
Bakodb, as the group owner I don't get my nose out of joint on discussions and if I saw a reason to remove your post I would do it. The only reason to do that would be if you are being disrespectful or offensive. We have some pretty tough and honest discussions in this group. It is not for the meek. I am not sure what you said in your post since I did not read it before you deleted it so I can't comment on it specifically. The only thing I say is that you be the judge of your comments, if you can't stand behind it... don't write it. All I ask is that you stay on topic or create new one. That is pretty much how we roll in this group.
BillBowser, Thanks for getting us back on track with this topic. Lots of interesting perspectives so far.
SB
Absolute Naturists arrow National NUDE Donut Day

SunBunny

Posted: May 17, 2012

There are 687 members of Absolute Naturist.I am wondering if only 3 of us eat donuts?
This is one of the fun things that occurs on this group. It would be really fun to post a pic of yourself eating a donut on June 1, 2012. If you can't do that... please put up a "status update" on June 1 saying you enjoyed a donut today.
C'mon, it fun... let's all do it.
Absolute Naturists arrow Why do you call yourself a Nudist or Naturist?

SunBunny

Posted: May 15, 2012

Good on you Maisey. Kalalau...Exactly! I totally get it. I belong to both AANR and The Naturist Society (TNS).
As I said before, I relate to naturist more than nudist. Anybody else care to chime in?
Absolute Naturists arrow National NUDE Donut Day

SunBunny

Posted: May 15, 2012

June 1, 2102. Let's see how many pics we can get posted here on NCH of each of you eating a Donut on that day. I know donuts are not the healthiest things to eat but one day per year is ok I think. If you post pic, add that you from the AN group. That will be really cool.
Remember, Nude donuts are plain cake donuts... but they can be frosting optional donuts too.
Here is a little info: http://donutdayusa.com/
Absolute Naturists arrow Why do you call yourself a Nudist or Naturist?

SunBunny

Posted: May 15, 2012

I think there is a difference between the two titles. Yes they are used interchangebly butI think that is incorrect and does the naturist an injustice.
Naturist's want to live in syncronization the natualness of the earths bounty and beauty as much as possible. They work to preserve it so generations after them can enjoy it. They are tree huggers and moss kissers.
Nudists for the most part could give a rats butt about those things and they just enjoy being nude. Their daily lives do not normally involve preservation or enjoyment of the earths natural givings. They go to clubs to socialize and enjoy themselves. Some may even use the recycle trash bin.

In my opinion, that is the difference and it is a big difference. How you classify yourself is you decision but I appreciate when someone does it from the heart and not to be trendy. Many times I have also seen how the application has much to do with your location. Later on this.

For me, I am a Naturist at heart. I enjoy being nude most when I am in nature settings like the beachs, sailing on the waters, mountains, secluded islands. That is what I have when in WA.

When I am in So TX, I feel more like a Nudist because there is not much natural beauty and nude life is pretty much confined to the nudist club (compound or colony, yep that is what it feels like). It is warm in the winter, end of story.

Either way, I am ONE and I have no problem with anyone knowing that because life is to short to not enjoy what makes you smile.
Absolute Naturists arrow Nudist Bill of Rights - The point is?

SunBunny

Posted: May 15, 2012

AARN... that's funny, I like it and to a large degree somewhat true. I wish they would stop kissing the politicians butts since we seem to get only lip service. Maybe is we had a Rainbow nudist flag we would get more attention and action from the politicos.
Absolute Naturists arrow Nudist Bill of Rights - The point is?

SunBunny

Posted: May 14, 2012

Like I said before... who cares. Even if it only is a grandstand, it brings it to the front of media and awareness.
There are those who enjoy their own nudist time and there are those who want to change society so anyone who wants to enjoy the freedom of nude living and recreation can do so without fear of law or society. I chose and I guess you two did also.
Absolute Naturists arrow New Facebook group

SunBunny

Posted: May 13, 2012

Are you kidding, we can't even get hardly any of them to just respond to questions here. Moderating... ha, good luck.
Not me...I'm booked.
SB
Absolute Naturists arrow Genital Jewlery vs. Boob Jobs at Nudist Venues

SunBunny

Posted: May 13, 2012

RabbitnBunny, I think you totally missed the topic question and the point of the toic question. This is not about body mutilation, which is a rather harsh way to view what most people would call adornment. Chill.
I would really like to hear what you have to say regarding the topic question. Your move.
Absolute Naturists arrow Nudist Bill of Rights - The point is?

SunBunny

Posted: May 13, 2012

rabbitnbunny, if I understand what you said, you did not sign it because you have a beef with AANR. Hmmmm, just because they do not support YOUR causes. Hmmmm, I think that is rather self serving. I may not agree with what ANNR does all the time, nor what other organizations do, but I don't think that it would be fair to turn my back on all nudists just because I have a self serving beef with AANR. There are many many issues that nudists need to confront with society and the politicians and I think every hand helps at this point. San Onefre is not the epicenter of nude recrestion last time I checked. I support the nudist cause no matter what and I signed the Billof Rights with my full name very early on. Whether it has any value or is a numbers game... who cares... I support nude recreation and nude living and I am willing to put my self in the forefront to attain it's acceptance. I am an absolute naturist, not a selective one.
SB

By the way, SunBunny is not connected with rabbitnbunny.

Absolute Naturists arrow Non-Nudist Nudist Venue Owners, Is there a problem?

SunBunny

Posted: May 2, 2012

I have to say that at first I had an issue with non-nudist owner/operators. On one hand, I feel that if they are not nudists they don't/can't get it and are just trying to exploit the nudist dollar. They are charlatans.

HOWEVER, it can really be a good thing in that nudists and textiles by postively uniting, working together, doing business together, and socializing together do in fact actually demonstrate that social nudity is not something to be feared or demonized. The operators and staff at Hidden Beach in Mexico is a very good example of this. They are not nudists. The nude cruise thing is also a good example, the owners/operators and staff are not nude or nudists. It works an all the interactions with each other are handled a very normal professional everyday manner. It's fantastic.

If more textile hotel/motel owners adopted a clothing optional policy then we might be a step closer to opening the doors to nude acceptance as a another form of positive living. As long as they set solid guidelines to keep the social nudity on the up and up (like Fawlty Towers appears to be doing) then it should be a good thing.

I would hope that nudists could apprecate having another venue to utilize and accept these business owner's willingness to open their doors to social nudity no matter what the reason. It can be a win-win if their business is successful. They could be a role model and testament for others to join in. By the way, who says nudists who run nudist venues do a good job. I have to say that there are some nudist venues owned and operated by nudists that are not run or maintained very well but they are the only gig in town so we are forced to patronize them. That is not right.

The bottomline, this is really about being a profitable and successful business. Profitable businesses are usually happy businesses. What is wrong with that. Why should we nudist be nip-picky about it if we get quality service for our nude dollars. I do think that the nudist clientel will quickly be able to figure out if an owner or manager is sincere and knowledgeable of the nudist business and mindset -or- just exploiting it. With that you can decide to patronize the business or not. In the case of Faulty Towers, if he does not do it right, he will definitly go out of business like he was almost doing prior to the nudist angle. It is simply the Law of the Business Jungle, only the profitable survive.

So the long and short of it, I don't have a problem or issue with it. I think my initial thoughts were a knee jerk reaction but as I always say... change is a good thing. After all, this is one of those times that they have to make us nudists happy and not the opposite. Now that is a good thing.
Absolute Naturists arrow Non-Nudist Nudist Venue Owners, Is there a problem?

SunBunny

Posted: May 1, 2012

It is probably rare BUT do you think there is a problem with a non-nudist being the owner/opertor of a nudist venue?
Nudist News arrow Fawlty Towers Motel going nude

SunBunny

Posted: May 1, 2012

An excellent point CO-Home, they should embrace social nudity for themselves. That was a question that I had when I read about Fawlty Towers, it just seemed like it came out of nowhere in a desperate attempt to stay open. It is always good to have another social nudist social, but nudist clientel expect quality business practices and services as well. The simple fact that we are nudists does not make us bottom feeders. If a business is having difficulty attracting clientel, it should be time to review the business practices and not switch to a niche market in hopes of turning a profit. Best wishes Fawlty Towers... but get on board with the wonders of nudism. Don't be another nudist charlatan.
NorthWest Outdoor Nudists arrow LARC Cinco de Mayo & Big Nude Boat Auction

SunBunny

Posted: Apr 30, 2012

Everybody here in the northwest, LARC is having it's Cinco de Mayo dance this coming Saturday (May 5, 2012) and I will be the DJ of the evening. I got some awesome music lined up. ALSO, LARC will be hold an auction for a "primo" cabin on The Big Nude Boat Cruise coming up in 2013. It could be an opportunity to go on the cruise at a value price. It will be auctioned off Saturday night.
Come out and enjoy the day at LARC and have fun at the dance in the evening.

SB
Absolute Naturists arrow Genital Jewlery vs. Boob Jobs at Nudist Venues

SunBunny

Posted: Apr 25, 2012

Cheri,
was it the genital jewelry or the act of her holding his penis that took you over? To me it sounds like the issue would have been the action of holding/fondling his genitals which would have been definitely been inappropriate given the setting. I would have given them the boot quickly. I am not sure I would have knee jerked a ban on jewelry based on that incident but rather issued a warning to all members about the inappropriateness of some body adornment in family friendly nudist functions and asked them to think about their actions.
By the way, thanks for the post. I enjoy reading your experienced viewpoints.
SB
Absolute Naturists arrow Mixed Signals in Body Language at Nudist Venues

SunBunny

Posted: Apr 25, 2012

The question in the Topic is: Have you had experiences with mixed signals in body language communication at nudist venues? Tell us about it.

I gave three examples of what I have personally experienced. The topic is not about these three examples, it is ABOUT what YOU have experienced. I am sure you have all experienced something (good/bad/funny/whatever) so tell us about that please.
Absolute Naturists arrow Mixed Signals in Body Language at Nudist Venues

SunBunny

Posted: Apr 25, 2012

Have you had experiences with mixed signals in body language communication at nudist venues? Tell us about it.

I have experienced (seen) the following:
1) Very gregarious and visually flirtatious female who was ready to blow the rape whistle as soon as she was approached by a friendly male;
2) Very perv type looking male staring around quietly in the corner of a pool who was not a perv at all but just a very shy nice man;
3)Female who was laying on a lounge chair spread eagle toward the guys playing volleyball acting as if she did not realize the view she was giving and expecting to be left alone to read her book.

Just three examples that I have personally experienced. All I could do is shake my head... it takes all kinds, even in nudist venues.
Absolute Naturists arrow Born a nudist or made a nudist?

SunBunny

Posted: Apr 22, 2012

Like a duck to water.... I must be a born nudist. Never thought about it in those terms, maybe it is more of a trait of being less inhibited about outside influences and more in tune with your pleasures or needs. I don't think there is a gene involved although I am sure someone could make a case for that.
Good topic, thanks Armadillo.
Absolute Naturists arrow Slogans for your towel

SunBunny

Posted: Apr 21, 2012

Yipes... Stripes! (I know I know, sorry)

-or-

Caution: This towel belongs to a Nudist.
Absolute Naturists arrow Slow Dancing Nude

SunBunny

Posted: Apr 21, 2012

Let me chime in on my thoughts...
I have no problem slow dancing nude, be it with my husband or another man. I have always thought that if a man takes the initiave to come over and ask me to dance, I should take it as a compliment and dance with him. If he proves not to be a gentleman, I will discontinue dancing with him and let him know why. His actions would be not only disrespectful to me but also to my husband. It has happened by the way.

I don't bump and grind when I dance since that is not dancing that is foreplay, not that difficult to understand. Slow dancing should be respectful and nice. If you are a TRUE nudist you understand at a core level that slow dancing nude is not about prowling for sex, it is about dancing as you live, Nude. To have to put on clothes only opens the door to being sexy and therfore enticement. It has been my experience that most women who dress up for a dance at nudist venues do so in what could be consider a provacative manner (i.e. see-through, wording, g-strings,etc.) which go's along with adornment of the body when required to dress. However, some venues frown on this even though they allow for clothing optional to be the norm at nudist dances. What are you suppose to wear, flannel PJ's. If you are a nudist venue, not clothing optional, dance nude. If you are at a clothing optional, be respectful to everyone, this include you ladies too. Think about your actions.
Absolute Naturists arrow Slow Dancing Nude

SunBunny

Posted: Apr 21, 2012

Gentlemen,
this topic was never intended to be about why men get erections. It is about concerns of slow dancing at nudist venues. FireProf keeps trying to tell you that and some of you just want to talk about your manhood...silly boys. No I am not going to create a topic for that and I will not entertain a topic by anyone for that exact purpose. If you want to talk about it, go down to your neighborhood bar and have fun.

For Nudesuncple: I think women are well aware of the causes of male erections, we don't need your advice or educational thoughts on that subject.
For CC10S: Again it is not about your erection, so quit wanting to talk about your dick and go play tennis.

To others you others who have offerred comments, I appreciate the many thoughtful and honest answers you have provided. Thank you.
Can we get back to the original topic about concerns. It would be nice to hear from a few ladies in the group. I'll go next ladies...
SB
Absolute Naturists arrow Clothing Optional vs Clothing Tolerant...Is there a difference?

SunBunny

Posted: Apr 18, 2012

Do you think the phrases/terms Clothing Optional and Clothing Tolerant mean the same or are they different? What do they mean to you? Do you prefer the use of one over the other?
Give us your thoughts please.
Absolute Naturists arrow What is Nudist Weather?

SunBunny

Posted: Apr 17, 2012

For me one word desribes it best... WARM. If it gets to hot I can jump in a pool, sit in the shade, or get in an air condition building. If it is cold, I need to put on something warm and there go's the enjoyment of nudity.
Absolute Naturists arrow Genital Jewlery vs. Boob Jobs at Nudist Venues

SunBunny

Posted: Apr 17, 2012

For the record, I have no bias against jewelry or breat augmentation (boob jobs) no matter how extreme either may be. To me what is important is how a person acts. There are probably many reasons for having them and it is personal prference as far as I am concerned. In our boating club, we have no restrictions because we believe family friendly means how a person acts, not what the look like or choose to do with their bodies.
I posted this question because it IS an issue at many nudist venues. At Natures Resort, where I live during the winter months, any kind of body jewelry is not acceptable by the owners and grounds for removal or non-acceptance. This venue is not alone in this policy.
I hear where many of you are coming from in your personal opinions but if you place yourself in the ownership or management of a nudist venue, and you have to deal with many different people, would that change your view or actions towards it. This is really the essence of this post.

Fireprof is right, I put out posts that make you think, react or challenge you and your personal beliefs or bias... and we all have them be you a nudist or not. Good discussion... keep going.
Absolute Naturists arrow Genital Jewlery vs. Boob Jobs at Nudist Venues

SunBunny

Posted: Apr 16, 2012

Many nudist venues ban genital jewlery because they say it brings focus to the genitals and therefore makes it sexual. At the same time, they make no fuss about Boob Jobs (Brest Augmentations) that many times definitely bring focus to a womens breasts in a very sexual way. Should Boob Jobs be banned in the same way since they are usually on much greater display and often consider very erotic and sexual as compared to a Prince Albert or a Clit Ring that makes you want to say "ouch"? Your thoughts please.

(For clarity, I used the words "Boob Job" as a way of describing highly accentuated or extreme breasts by way of surgery. We all have probably seen what I am talking about.)
Absolute Naturists arrow Slow Dancing Nude

SunBunny

Posted: Apr 16, 2012

Why do nudists become uncomfortable at the thought of slow dancing nude with any one other than their spouse/partner? Do we subconciously see it as sexual? Are males concerned about erections occuring? Is spousal jealously an issue? So just what is the problem with slow dancing nude at a nudist venue?
Absolute Naturists arrow What is Nudist Weather?

SunBunny

Posted: Apr 16, 2012

What is Nudist Weather for you?
Absolute Naturists arrow Resort vs Club - Whats in a name?

SunBunny

Posted: Apr 9, 2012

Seems like nowdays it is cool to call yourself a resort. Many clubs have even named themselves using the resort word. I think this misnomer is a real injustice to folks going there if you are not one as has been described by others. I have first hand experience seeing this. As many of you know, we have a home at Natures Resort in Texas. Natures Resort at best is a mobile home/rv park... not a resort. I refer to it as a nudist community which I think is very accurate. Our neighbors are the same people and almost everybody that even stays in the rooms they rent are the same people every season. Many folks live there year round. This is a community with the community activities run by a fun association much like a condo association. Even though it is privately owned, the owners do not run the activities or food activities. Money for activities and entertainment is raised by the people in the community.
So, a rose by any other name... is not always a resort.
NOW... Hidden Beach Resort in Mexico IS Definitely a resort. Compare Natures Resort in Texas and Hidden Beach Resort in Mexico on line and you will see what I mean. ok...thats it for me, over and out.
Absolute Naturists arrow Adult Only Nude Resort Policies. Is there an issue?

SunBunny

Posted: Apr 3, 2012

As far as MiLindas post,
Different topic, different subject, different food, wrong wrench. Singles is not the subject that this topic is based on so lets keep on track. This topic is actually occuring at DSR. The single thing is not even though it may be interesting food for discusssion.
MiLinda, maybe you should form your question into post and see whee it go's. I always encourage group members to do this.
Absolute Naturists arrow Teaching You Children About Social Nudity

SunBunny

Posted: Apr 3, 2012

We have recently talk about children at nudist resorts. Some have embraced it, some have rejected it, some have viewed the discussion as hostile towards familys with children. As usual we are not like minded on the issue. Maybe this thought is one we can come together on.

If we approach social or recreational nudity as if we were teaching our children, would you teach them some of the thoughts, beliefs, things or actions that you say on the many threads on AN? Maybe we should always ask ourselves this question before we actually do something. After all, aren't we the examples for those who follow us.
Absolute Naturists arrow Resort vs Club - Whats in a name?

SunBunny

Posted: Apr 3, 2012

Let's talk about the naming conventions used for nudist "places"?

When or why does a nudist club become a resort-Is there actually a difference between a resort and a club-What,s the motivation...geez, we could go on and on, your thoughts please.
Absolute Naturists arrow Adult Only Nude Resort Policies. Is there an issue?

SunBunny

Posted: Apr 3, 2012

PerfectTan,
I think it was more like 10 cents worth... cheers, exactly what I see happening.
Whenever we see an isssue like this happening and realizing the larger picture and it's implications on nudism as a whole, we should step up and support in favor of nudists... don't care if you have kids or not because it is really not about that.
Absolute Naturists arrow Adult Only Nude Resort Policies. Is there an issue?

SunBunny

Posted: Apr 2, 2012

FireProf,
I hear you saying two things and I am not sure how you are applying then to the issue of forcing a private business (i.e. not accepting gov funding)to operate as if it was a publicly funded entity and therfore obligated by public law mandates. I do find error with other previous comments made in this regard. Let me take a stab at it from my viewpoint.
The nameing convention is a red herring. It has no impact on anything other than marketing mumbo jumbo anymore. Also if a recreational entity does not have any kid play amenities to keep them entertained why would parents even think of taking their kids there, another red herring in the issue.

The twisting of the "adults only" wording to align it adult business seems to be the problem. I still see the issue as a effort to derail the view of healthy social nudity as something perverted and not acceptable for children. It is a way to say or instill a thought that something go's on behind those walls that must be really bad if you do not want to let kids in. Who is behind it, I mean really, really, who? If there is a family with children who is hell bent on taking their kids to places with nothing for them to do, is there not something wrong with the parent's line of thought or parenting skills. Why on earth would a parent want to do that? Is that not "child abuse". I think most folks tend to get lost in the noise (red herrings) of an issue rather than heart of the issue and that is how we end up in court.


Absolute Naturists arrow Social Nudity - A Civil Right or Civil Liberty?

SunBunny

Posted: Apr 1, 2012

WHERE we are allowed to practiced it negates it as a civil liberty. By dictating where you are allowed to practice nudity confines your ability and therefore negates your ability to CHOOSE where to practice it. Seems to me anyway. I am still thinking it is neither, but closer to a CL than a CR.
Absolute Naturists arrow Social Nudity - A Civil Right or Civil Liberty?

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 31, 2012

or on the other hand, maybe it is neither. Maybe it is just another way of living. As if do you choose to part your hair on the left side or right side (assuming you have hair). But if it is neither, how do we go about protecting our right to live nude in our society if we are not hurting anyone or being overtly offensive to anyone. Should nudist just stop the CR or CL banter because it has no foundation or merit. Geez, not sure...
Absolute Naturists arrow Why do you call yourself a Nudist or Naturist?

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 31, 2012

Just curious... your thoughts, opinion and reasons. If you call yourself one are you one? hmmm, maybe yes maybe no.
Let's hear from everyone in the group this time.
Absolute Naturists arrow Adult Only Nude Resort Policies. Is there an issue?

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 31, 2012

Parenting is not really the topic of this discussion and we need to quit being so sensitive. Emotions get in the way of logic. The common theme I am hearing is respect of others, respect of space and respect of business. In the case in point, it seems like there is an energy, be it either by nudist parents with children or a hungry attorney looking to make a name for themselves, to force a nudist club to accept whatever walks in the door. Is this right or is this wrong. That is the issue up for discussion.
Let me reask the question, Does a nudist resort have the right to establish their own rules/policies of operation?
Absolute Naturists arrow Social Nudity - A Civil Right or Civil Liberty?

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 30, 2012

I often hear arguements for social (public) nudity being argued as a civil right. I sometimes hear arguements for it being a civil liberty. Is it either? Should it be? Your thoughts please.
Absolute Naturists arrow Who should nudist fear most?

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 30, 2012

Court Systems! Unless you have a nudist judge and nudist attorneys on both side of a case, the nudist will loose. Don't believe it... just look at the current state of the laws surrounding public, social, recreational nudity. My recommendation, stay out of the courts.
Absolute Naturists arrow Adult Only Nude Resort Policies. Is there an issue?

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 30, 2012

The All or Nothing mentality does seem to pervade in many issues within the nudist community. As I recently scanned several issue of The Bulletin it appear that there are far more "Family Friendly" than "Adults/Couples Only" nudist establishments. So what is the problem.
As I see it, law suits like this just open the doors in the court systems for "red herring" discussions like the suitability of children being at ANY nudist establishment. Once again, nudists seem to be a very gullible population in being suck into situatuons/discussions that can be
used against them in for moving the wholesomeness of nudity for everyone, young and old, forward.

This is a very good discussion, appreciate all the opinions. It is what makes the Absolute Naturist group the Best group on NC.
SB
Absolute Naturists arrow Adult Only Nude Resort Policies. Is there an issue?

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 29, 2012

This Senior did do my time with kids, I still enjoy kids, I enjoy my grandkids, I am glad some parents are instilling positive social nudity in their upbringing, I said kids playing in their back yard and not the neighborhood playground (please read what I said) and there are many clubs/resorts/whatever that welcome families with children and offer activities for the kids, BUT don't start mandating that all clubs/resort/whatever MUST accept families and their young children with legal mumbo jumbo. If parents go to these clubs/resorts/whatever and choose not to parent (watch over their childrens behavior or voice levels) it just is not acceptable or fair to anyone else even if the clubs/resort/whatever is "family friendly". These parents should be mature enough to understand the rules of simple respect to others. In many ways it is sad that we have to make "rules" like this but the qustion should be "Why". I think I and others have addressed that. Call me grumpy, but I don't enjoy hearing Marco...Polo all freakin' day at the pool. I don't think this has anything to do with "compartmentalizing", just respect which is what everything should be about.
Absolute Naturists arrow Adult Only Nude Resort Policies. Is there an issue?

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 29, 2012

I have been to nudist clubs/resorts where kids are welcome and present and I have been to places where there are not kids.... I will go for no kids, and by this I mean little ones usually under ten years of age. I think CO got it partly right when she said parents have stopped parenting but I think it is more of parents not respecting others. If YOUR child is annoying YOU, I bet dollars to donuts they are really annoying ME. The nonsense about kids being at nudist places helps them get a positive view of nudity is BS also. Most kids would be happy running around nude in their back yard playing with their dog. It is the parents attitude toward nudity that provides the positive view, not a nudist club/resort or me. The long and short of my comment, privately owned nudist clubs/resorts or whatever you want to call them should have the right to decide who is their target customer. Is there an issue with forcing a nudist business to accept children...YES!
Absolute Naturists arrow Nude Normal

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 29, 2012

Jim,
good luck... all you can do is keep moving forward. Happiness should always be an individuals goal in life. Maybe a small private nudist B&B would be a good option to potentially break through her issue. Obviously she is threaten somehow by your desire to enjoy social nudity.
Absolute Naturists arrow Nude Normal

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 28, 2012

Had an interesting social event happen yesterday. We went to an "Open House" party a nudist couple had to show off all the beautiful remodels and upgrades they had done to their home. It is a home in a nudist community. Nude Normal was definitely on display because we were all nude doing and talking about things you would normally do and talk about at the same type of event in the textile world. Nobody was screwing or pole dancing, only laughing, eating, looking at the home and enjoying everyones company. That is definitely nude normal and that is what the antinudist folks should see and experience. It was real, no put-ons, and socially wonderful.
Absolute Naturists arrow Adult Only Nude Resort Policies. Is there an issue?

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 28, 2012

A well known nudist resort in CA is currently being challenge as dicriminating against families with children for having a "adult only" policy. What are your thoughts on this?

(This adult only policy is not for the purpose of sexuality so please don't go down that road in your responses)
Absolute Naturists arrow Nudism everywhere

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 28, 2012

yep, when I go to the grocery store, they think I should wear clothes... but I am working on that. Still do my Kaftan with nothing on underneath, so almost nude.
When you live nude everyday, it becomes frustrating and almost to the point of logical lunancy to have to put on clothes when it is not necessary except for issues pointed out previously. Frying fish... ouch, but I have quick reflexes. As I now sit nude on my patio enjoying the warm Texas air (about 87 degrees at almost 6pm)I find it difficult to understand why folks would not want to be clothes free like me all the time. Rarely have I ever found someone who did not like being socially nude once they tried it. To me, Nude Normal is the name of the game. If I was dressed right now I would be all sweaty and uncomfortable... what would be the point of that!
Absolute Naturists arrow Nudist Thoughts - Full-Timers vs Part-Timers

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 23, 2012

I think you both have spoken exactly what I have experienced in the two mindsets. There is a difference in the emphasis placed on nudity. The one thing that I seem to always encounter on subjects like this is the need by some "part-timers" to take words out of the context of a subject to define their place in the nudist community as if it was a heirarchy. To that maligned effort I say hooey-fooey. Instead of taking potshots at some of us "full-timers" why don't we just learn from the variety of experiences and place those expeiences on our own context. Those who always seem to take the potshots are only in truth showing their insecurity. My intent in topics like this and others is not to separate but add a broader scope of knowledge of each of our experiences which in turn should add to a persons (your) level of security and talking points on any topic or subject. Thanks to those of you who chosen to participate wisely and openly on this and the many other topics on Absolute Naturist.
Absolute Naturists arrow Introduce Yourself

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 21, 2012

Not a day seems to go by when Absolute Naturists doesn't have a request for membership from new people. We are the fastest growing group, we have the highest number of topics and we have the highest number of posts of any group here on NC. Contrary to what some may say, we must be doing something right and adding value to your participation in social nudity. FireProf and I appreciate your desire to join this group and invite your active participaton in the many topics.
Let's hear from all you new members. Thanks.
Absolute Naturists arrow Nudist Thoughts - Full-Timers vs Part-Timers

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 21, 2012

Nothing wrong with a Bunny trail... but this was crazy. Ok nuudman, now I know how we got here, glad you fessed up. It is important to post your thoughts in the appropriate topic so that the thread can have more meaning and focus. In the future please copy your words, delete it and move it to where you had intended yourself, don't just keep going. Thanks, appreciate it.
Shall we continue?

Absolute Naturists arrow Nudist Thoughts - Full-Timers vs Part-Timers

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 21, 2012

What the heck are you people talking about? This has nothing to do with the topic. The topic is about our places in the sun and how we react and think because of that... that's it. I think it would do some of you well to read the topic again, and then maybe again. ok, let me make it easier.... here it is again:

"Is there a difference in how full time-nudists and part-time nudists approach and view social/recreational nudity? I am not envoking a cast system or hierarchy but rather just thinking about the different views expressed on the many subject here on Absolute Nudists. There seems to be a difference and I am curious. Please enlighten me and others by sharing your thoughts on this.".
Let's get back to the topic.
SB
Absolute Naturists arrow Who should nudist fear most?

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 19, 2012

Your fear is what I was speaking of exactly and you let yourself become the prey. You missed an opportunity to educate him and others, especially in a church. There are ways to do it without outing yourself, especially at a church function where judgement is supposed to be not very 'churchy'. Granted you were probably caught flat footed and unable to respond as you said.

I think I would have asked the question what he felt was wrong with it? Why did he feel uncomfortable? Then the killer... if he saw or experienced something that would or could be considered lewd? It was all his junk, not yours. I probably who have ended the conversation with the question like how would he feel if the people at Lupin would have rejected him in the same manner he was rejecting them. If he didn't know where he was going he was a dim wit anyway. I would have probably left him feeling more stupid and definitely not the victor. There were probably some around the table that would have admire you for standing up to this stupidity. Hope this helps for next time you run into a like situation because they are definitely out there.
Absolute Naturists arrow Nudist Thoughts - Full-Timers vs Part-Timers

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 19, 2012

I think both of you have missed the point. It is not about separating us or pigeon holing as much as trying to understand where we are coming from in our thinking and comments. As has been proven time and time again here in the topic discussions, we think differently and view subject differently many times because of how we are involved in social nudity.
Isn't it better to be on the same page than not? We don't have to agree, just be on the same page on the same book so we can communicate on the same subject.
Absolute Naturists arrow Who should nudist fear most?

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 19, 2012

What I hear you saying reminds me of one of Ron White's (the comedian) show titles; You Can't Fix Stupid. What can I say, it is something that frustrates me all the time, most of the time all you can do is shake you head, mutter that phrase, and walk on. I still try anyway.

AZ, I appreciate you recognizing what I try to do on the site... Make Us Think, plain and simple. We have had some very interesting (and sometimes heated and slightly brutal)discussuons on here because of this, but in the end it is all good because we all come away a little further ahead of where we were in our thoughts previously. If we stop talking, loose the courage to be challenged in our thoughts and crawl back under a rock, how can we ever grow. It is not easy nor is change, but that is our challenge. We all have an opportunity to educate ourselves here on the many facets of social nudity. We are the voices that can begin to change attitudes about social nudity. This is the education we all need to do this.

Here is another thought to consider. The law of the jungle can very well apply to this topic. Only the strong survive. We have a choice to be strong in our views and convictions or be weak and become the prey. Up until now we have been the prey, should we not do something to change that? Is it not this weakness we should fear?
Absolute Naturists arrow search results for your name reveal that your a nudist

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 19, 2012

Well I have 15,901... so there!, and yes I am probably more interesting,(one word, boobs) ... bunch of hogwash, just having fun with y'all.
I wonder how these search engines pick up what they do. Some stuff is old or very obscure, some stuff is current, some is just thrown in a pot and stirred around with others. Like I said before, me being a nudist does not come right out at you. Maybe if I wrote a blog titled "My Nude Life" it would connect the dots.
Absolute Naturists arrow Nudist Thoughts - Full-Timers vs Part-Timers

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 19, 2012

What got me thinking about this topic was the tone I kept reading over aand over in the recent edition of "N" magazine with people continually talking about what a free feeling it was to be nude doing things like hiking or rafting when all that just seems normal to me. To top it off, this is a naturist based magazine. My hubby pointed out to me that most folks don't do things nude everyday and don't live nude everyday like we do so in those cases it would be a freeing (or something like that)experience for them. ahhhh, I get it I think. Maybe I have forgotten the feeling I had upon my first visit to a nudist club or nude beach. This puts some perspective on the simple fact that for most folks (part-timers) it is like a hobby or a get away from normal life. For me it is just how I live and my view of social nudity and nude living is definitely opposite. This does tend to make me get a little frustrated with people who are part-timers or weekenders. For them it is usually party time vs another day in the neighborhood for me. I guess it is all good. By the way, you don't have to be an old duffer to live a nude life, it is how you think and act.
NorthWest Outdoor Nudists arrow LARC Opens for 2012 Season

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 18, 2012

Message from LARC Club President:

It is that time again to get the Club up and running. The Tent will
go up on Saturday (3/24/12). Be sure to come out and help make it all
happen. We will have a Mardi Gras Dance that starts at 8:00pm following the Tent-Up.

We will hold our General Membership meeting this coming weekend Sunday (3/25/12). Everybody is welcome to attend.
******
Group members, come out and enjoy. LARC resides within a beautiful setting for clothing optional enjoyment. Tell a friend.
SB


Absolute Naturists arrow Nudist Thoughts - Full-Timers vs Part-Timers

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 18, 2012

Is there a difference in how full time-nudists and part-time nudists approach and view social/recreational nudity? I am not envoking a cast system or hierarchy but rather just thinking about the different views expressed on the many subject here on Absolute Nudists. There seems to be a difference and I am curious. Please enlighten me and others by sharing your thoughts on this.
Absolute Naturists arrow Who should nudist fear most?

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 18, 2012

Who is it exactly that nudists should fear most in moving towards nude living acceptance and social nudity acceptance? Is it the textile population or nudists themselves? Who is the real stumbling block in nudist lifestyle proliferation? Maybe it is really us (nudists) we should fear in the demise of social nudity. What do you think?
Absolute Naturists arrow search results for your name reveal that your a nudist

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 18, 2012

I just did another search on my name (do so from time to time) and it was amazing how many things came up, even little things. Nothing really pointed directly to being a nudist other than some thoughts or articles posted here and there, much like a socialogist would write. Kind of surprised me since I am so out there in the nude world. In a way though, it makes you rethink of all the things you do that you don't put as much focus on as others do and yet these things must still be relevant to your life somewhere. Cool, this search stuff almost makes you feel famous....
Absolute Naturists arrow Nudists and Body Image Hang Ups

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 14, 2012

Good for you Detach. I hear that the most important step, and the hardest step too, in overcoming "hang-ups" is admitting to yourself that you have them. Only then do you see what you want or need to fix within yourself and you allow yourself to do things to make it happen, just like you did. kudos.
Absolute Naturists arrow Appropriate Locations for Nudity

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 14, 2012

Simple... because we do, shame on us.
Absolute Naturists arrow Appropriate Locations for Nudity

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 13, 2012

...and when do you get tired of playing cards with the same people night after night. I am not sure I would consider myself a "believer" as much as I would a person who is not afraid to experience life on my terms and with whom ever I choose to share it with. I hear this arguement or rationalization all the time. What it really comes down to is fear couple with a internal belief that nudity is wrong and people will think bad things about you for being person who enjoys social nudity. I see/hear it all the time, even in nudist venues, just freakin' crazy. If anyone believes appropriate locations means being hidden behind a ten foot fence in the middle of nowhere then you might as well just stay home behind your walls. It's the same.
Family Nudists arrow Summer Camp for Kids

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 13, 2012

I just read an article in the "N" magazine published by The Naturst Society (31.2 pg.32) where kids were commenting about their experiences at Youth Camp at Sunsport Gardens. As I read, I just kept thinking that by these comments you would never know these kids, both girls and boys together, were all nude during camp. It just sounded like any other youth camp. If textiled parents read this, and then got the punchline that these kids were nude and the camp was led by nudist adults... I wonder what they would say. What do you think about this?
Absolute Naturists arrow Offensive vs. Discomfort - Is there a difference?

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 13, 2012

IMHO, Not Much.
If we find discomfort with something, we tend to be offended by it at some level. We fear it at some level. Hence, not much other than one leads to the other and usually very quickly and fear energizes negativity. This is the same mentality that fuels the energy for organizations like AANR to seek "appropriate locations" for social nudity, like behind a ten foot wall out in the boonies. "Appropriate Locations" means we don't cause discomfort and offend anyone by social and human nudity. I am offended that we and these organizations have bought into this BS. It is doubful we will infect anyone with our nudity like people feared and colonized Lepers many years ago. If we do infect them with the benefits and enjoyment of social nudity it will probably be for the better anyway. OMG, did I say colonized as in justifying a Nudist COLONY? Closed off to the public so as to not cause discomfort or harm. Now there is a word most nudists should get offended by. Hey, it is just a word, but words and actions have meaning when we compare them with our values and beliefs. Yet we can get fighting mad about it just like those persons would get fighting mad about an unclothed couple having a burger and a coke at a local burger joint on a Friday night. Did I miss somethng there?.. oh yeah... the law. The law that was made up by persons who found this action uncomfortable and offensive. Many time the same people that wag their finger at me for being a nudist while at the same time considering themselves non-judgemental christians. What BS! Speaking of BS, yep, I am totally offended by BS too. ok, enough...
When I feel discomfort with something I always try to ask myself why. I have yet to answer that honestly by saying it is them and not me. It is my core belief system that is challenged by actions I encounter. Social acceptance is a belief system. A system of right and wrong. The belief system that I have been taught by society, the same one that forces me into a herd mentality of acceptable behavior. The same one that reveres individuality and freedom. Isn't that a conflict of logic, perhaps. So it comes down to right and wrong / discomfort and offensiveness being a value upon which we place an action, not vice versa. Ask yourself, honestly, the same question I ask myself when you see something that you find discomfort with and are offended by and see what you come up with.
Absolute Naturists arrow Nudists and Body Image Hang Ups

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 13, 2012

Rollercoaster,
I really appreciate and enjoy the intellect and thought of your posts...BUT, " Nudists have the same body image hang ups as everyone else. The difference is that nudists can set it aside.", hmmm, kinda doubt it. In most of the discusions on this group, Nudists don't set anything aside. We are people like anyone else. I have to go along with FireProf on this. Most everything he said has been my experience, and I live in nudist communities. As an example to ponder, why did the dust fly so high on the post about Body Acceptance and the words Fat & Unhealthy. Probably because it hit close to home in our views and thoughts about ourselves and our body image hangups. I think we all have them, like it or not, good or bad. Our challenge is to get beyond that and show others how silly it really is. Don't we have more pressing issues and things to be concerned with... really, don't we. ok, off the soapbox and on to the gym.
Again, Roller keep up the posts. They really provide us with interesting and insightful viewpoints. Kudos to you too Sundancer.
Absolute Naturists arrow Poll - Best State in the USA for Nudism?

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 13, 2012

Thanks Hoya for that insightful view of nudity in FL. Old farts, only two crowded nude beaches, big bugs, hurricanes, Anita Bryant devotees, high taxes. I still stand by my earlier post re FL. AZ may be looking a little better but the beach thing is a problem for me and only a lizard would be walking somewhere in 115 degrees, nude or not, heels or not.

Interesting that this poll is not indicating other states other than AZ and FL. 50 states in the US (52 if you throw in Stupid and Drunk) and only AZ and FL hit the post poll... interesting. Any thoughts?
Absolute Naturists arrow Offensive vs. Discomfort - Is there a difference?

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 13, 2012

What is the real difference between offensiveness verses personal discomfort of behavior in our society? Where does the acceptance of diversity fit into this equation?
Do piercings on the human body offend you? Does green spikey hair offend you? Does homosexuality offend you? Does religious pontification offend you? Does ambulance chasing news media offend you? Do lawyers and politicians offend you?...etc. Does nudity offend you?
Do these type of things offend us or just hit our personal level of discomfort and cause our negative reaction. So what really is offensive behavior. Your honest thoughts please...
Absolute Naturists arrow Nudists and Body Image Hang Ups

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 12, 2012

It is commonly believed that nudists do not have body image hang ups. Is this true? Your thoughts please.
Absolute Naturists arrow Poll - Best State in the USA for Nudism?

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 11, 2012

Did you say shopping..... hmmmmmm, lemme think about this.
I remember my first trip to ShangriLa. I drove there, coming from exciting (ugh) Hollywood. As I approached, making that turn off the Highway, all I could see was cactus growing very slowly. If I recall my first words they were something like...what the H am I F'ing doing here. Hard to shake the visual, sorry CO. I do know there are nice places in AZ... still on the fence though, AZ or FL. Shopping... can you wear heels on hot pavement?
Absolute Naturists arrow Pole Dancing at Nudist Clubs... Should it be allowed?

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 11, 2012

I find it interesting that nudists actually equated pole dancing with sex and eroticism. Why not I guess, strip clubs is where you normally find them anyway. Poles aren't slippery slopes, the people are. Yoga can be very erotic if you want to view it that way. Again, not the yoga, it's the people. Sometimes I think nudists get to uptight with trying to protect the nudist wholesomeness concept and forget about simple adult fun. It all depends how it is staged. All probably a non-issue anyway since I DOUBT seriously that most of the folks I see pictured in the AANR bulletin could ever spin on the pole anyway, female or male. As MiLinda said, it is darn hard to do too, been there and done that, I know!
Absolute Naturists arrow Nude Normal

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 11, 2012

Jim, your daughter seems to have no idea what social nudity is about. Gay, discharges, hygeine, ejaculate... c'mon. By saying you agree with her on nudists never walking side by side with textiles you are even missing the point of nude normal. Fact, ha!, hogwash!!!

It is simply about living and acceptance and not making judgements and promoting predjudice. That is the fact. Maybe you should point her to some of the stories written by women on the AANR site. Maybe you should read some also.
Absolute Naturists arrow Nudity in Foreign Countries

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 11, 2012

I can't remember exactly where I read it but AANR someone with AANR was saying something about Spain being the most accepting of public nudity and that is it totally legal there... and I also remember reading about a official of Spain saying that they were removing those laws from their books and that any type of nudity was now illegal. Anybody have current info on this?
Absolute Naturists arrow Poll - Best State in the USA for Nudism?

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 11, 2012

I kinda leaning toward AZ or FL. However not much going on in AZ except cactus growing and seeing "The Thing". No beaches either. Florida... um, high taxes, expensive, big bugs and very old people, hurricanes and crazy cubans otherwise it is good. Oregon is very liberal so very good potential for nudity but very wet and nudists can get rusty and moldy there. Same applies to WA, very beautiful but also wet and cold plus big mosquitos. CA, not a chance... politicians are to uptight and people don't know how to relax, even in SF. Texas has some promise but not much in beauty, just the big old wild wild west. Mid US Bible Belt, forgetaboutit and you better go to church.
Unfortunately, I reside in the two states that I don't give a nod to... go figure. AZ or FL, hmmm.
Absolute Naturists arrow Slogans for your towel

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 11, 2012

YUDE It 2 NUDE It
Absolute Naturists arrow Slogans for your towel

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 10, 2012

Nudist Butt Napkin

(I found this at the bottom of our topics and thought we could all have a little fun with it. Go for it...)
Absolute Naturists arrow Poll - Best State in the USA for Nudism?

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 10, 2012

What is the Best State in the USA for Nudism to proliferate? Your thoughts and reasoning please.

(not talking about pushing pubic nudity just about where in your opinion would social nudity have the best chance to proliferate in whatever format)
Absolute Naturists arrow Security Gates - Should Nude/CO clubs have them?

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 10, 2012

Should nudist/co clubs have security gates to enter the facility? Does anybody know of a club that does not have security gates? Are they to hide behind or keep us safe? How does this differ from an open beach area? What are your experiences in this area and how do you feel about the issue?
NorthWest Outdoor Nudists arrow Nudie NW News

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 8, 2012

Has anybody have Nudie NW News or information on the upcoming NW Nudist season happenings? Places to go, things to see, tanning opportunities? Anything else to get you nude in the outdoors...please share.
Absolute Naturists arrow Nude Normal

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 7, 2012

Nude normal eliminates all the emphasis and discussion on "Appropriate Locations". Seems to me when you bring less attention to something it tends to become "old news" and slowly becomes just another day. Granted it will be tough to eliminate the connection between nudity and sex in the minds of many but as some of you know when you are at a nudist/co club, all that sex emphasis and erection fears tend to go away because nudity is normal... hence nude normal. Bringing down the hype is the real challenge.
Absolute Naturists arrow Like Minded - What Does That Really Mean?

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 7, 2012

The recent posting on Pole Dancing really throws a monkey wrench into this topic. To me, this just go's to show what I have always believed. Simply stated, Nudists are people who enjoy being nude... and that is where like minded ends. Maybe we should stop using that term so loosely. What do you think...
Absolute Naturists arrow The Nudist Click Moment

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 7, 2012

Anybody else care to share? We have many new members since the last post and I thought it would be good to bring this up to the surface again. Please share, it is always good to hear new experiences...
Absolute Naturists arrow Qualified Body Painters Wanted

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 1, 2012

What makes a good Body Painter? Do you have to have artistic talent? Do you need a creative mind? Can anybody do it? Tell us what you think. Body Painting is the focus of this year's AANR Nude Recreation Week Challenge.
Absolute Naturists arrow Bodypainting

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 1, 2012

To answer the original question of this topic, The event to encourage nude recreation during ANNR's Nude Week this year is Body Painting. Now there you go, so even AANR supports the activity. This is leading to a new post...
Absolute Naturists arrow Pole Dancing at Nudist Clubs... Should it be allowed?

SunBunny

Posted: Mar 1, 2012

Should Pole Dancing or Pole dance Set-Ups be allowed at Nudist Resorts? Would you considered it a lewd or sexual activity activity or just simple adult fun? Would it be different if it was a theme type of event? Your thoughts please.
Absolute Naturists arrow What is a Social Nudist?

SunBunny

Posted: Feb 22, 2012

What is a social nudist and how would you describe a socisl nudist to a non-nudist? No classic definitions please... simply your opinions and your words. Thanks, go for it!
Absolute Naturists arrow Defining The AN group Intent

SunBunny

Posted: Feb 14, 2012

Thanks FireProf, I could not have said it better... and didn't. Thanks again.
I guess I never thought about how the word "want" could be interpreted. Now I can see more clearly what some of you are saying, ok, I get it. In my existence, when I say "I want" it means to me not only do I want to but I am going to, and I work to that end to achieve what I want. It is an action... not just a hope and a prayer. Sitting around thinking about it is a waste of time to me and time is the only thing I can't get back in this life. My view is if I wait for someone else to make it happen for me it probably is not going to happen. You have to make it happen and that that is the type of person that I envisioned as members of this group. To bring thoughts for action to the forefront. Moving forward is always progress, no matter how large or small the step may be. Standing still talking about something is just standing still. Everyone has to decide if and how they want to be in a movement or endeavor. You just should know that the if you are standing still, you will probably get stepped on... that's just the way it is.
Topics like this are exactly for this purpose, to read and try to understand other viewpoints and places. For the record, the word want in the mantra, means to exactly what FireProf said.
Absolute Naturists arrow What are you doing for Valentines Day?

SunBunny

Posted: Feb 13, 2012

We are having a Pre-Valentines Day Dance at Natures Resort (13th) with all the valentines frills since they could not book a band to play here on Valentines Day (kinda dumb but it's the thought), and we are going out to a Elvis impersonator show valentines evening with our nudist friends. Valentines day will start out with Strawberry topped Belgian Waffles, roses, and a couple of Mimosas. Then just enjoy the day until evening with Elvis. Should be fun.
A little romance is always a good thing, no matter when. C'mon guys, step it up.
Absolute Naturists arrow What are you doing for Valentines Day?

SunBunny

Posted: Feb 12, 2012

Are you doing anything special for Valentines Day? Tell us how you will be spending the day.
Absolute Naturists arrow Defining The AN group Intent

SunBunny

Posted: Feb 8, 2012

Please read the heading again. Please read the mantra again. Maybe I did not make clear what I was hoping to have a disscussion on in this thread since so far the majority of posts have been about how you define nudity in your life. Let me try again.
For this group, how do you interpret the mantra's intent for membership?
Again, not about you, about the group. Thanks.
Absolute Naturists arrow Defining The AN group Intent

SunBunny

Posted: Feb 7, 2012

The intent and "mantra" for the Absolute Naturist group here on NCH is:
"For people that want to be and live nude."

What does that mean to you?
Absolute Naturists arrow Appropriate Locations for Nudity

SunBunny

Posted: Feb 6, 2012

Thanks for the good words Irish, I appreciate your always well thought out perspectives as I appreciate the many others on here. Do we always agree, hardly, but that is okay as long as we try to head in the same direction to help us get past the roadblocks that stand in our way. When someone offer points of view that consistently go in an opposing direction without ever offering forward alternatives, I think anyone in the room would begin to wonder why they are there and question the value of their input. I think that's when we go and,in this case,went sideways. To continue that negativity does nobody any good here. It is not even stirring the pot, it is just throwing rocks at the marchers. Keep in mind, I said consistently. There are many people on here that want to live nude but can't for whatever reason at this time and that is ok. The difference is that these folks, based on their comments, have not lost sight of that goal. They say lets join hands and try to get there and are willing to provide what they can as they can. They don't just continue to barrage us with reasons why it can't or will never happen. To date I have not removed one person. When someone consistently remains of a negative mindset, I will ask what they are doing here because they do not get the intent. There are many people who are just negative in life, not matter what. I don't think this group needs that. I believe and will always believe change begins with positive thinking. My glass is always half full, not half empty. Some may find fault with the description of this group, but I am relatively sure no matter what words I used they would still fall short with someone. Are the current words broad and inclusive, yes. That's why we have the variety of people on here. But I do believe they are focused in only one direction and mindset which is the desire and goal of being and living nude, whenever and where ever we want.
I will continue to believe that the people who remain with this group want this. The point is we need to remove the word "can't" from our vocabulary if we are ever going accomplish the goal.
Absolute Naturists arrow Appropriate Locations for Nudity

SunBunny

Posted: Feb 5, 2012

ok, I'll bite.
uhhh, gee I "don't understand".... uhhhh, gee I'm not "making excuses", uhhh... gee, here is a bit of LOGIC for you Gaijin and a few others in this group to consider regarding this thread and the Absolute Naturist group.
This is the ONLY group on NCH that is "For people that want to be and live nude". Every other group has a special interest and/or for those who don't or don't want to live nude or can't for whatever reasons.
What really defies logic, Gaijin, is persons like you who come on this group and talk at nauseum about why we CAN'T live nude. Who sent you here, the textiles, because they are saying the same thing. The "appropriate locations" terminology as defined and legislated go's against the basic principle of living nude. It is what the textile world tells us and what we have to abide by. Have you heard the term "nudist colony" before. That is an "appropriate location" and do you know why most nudist clubs are out in the sticks, far removed from populated centers, because it is an "appropriate location". Now tell me, for people that want to be and live nude... how does that come close to being logical.

I didn't respond to you funeral post because I thought it was stupid. I almost deleted it in fact because it was stupid. Shall we be logical here. In situations like that, you do what is respectful to the person that passed and their family. Would I go to a funeral nude, no, unless it was held at a APPROPRIATE place to be nude. Not likely. To seek a general blanket response and then try to make a statement out of it totally defies logic, intelligence, shows utter disrespect and even more, lack of grasp of what we are talking about. All persons should be respectful, nudist or not. Now that is logical!

Again, "Absolute Nudist: For people that want to be and live nude.". Maybe it is time for you and a few others to reevaluate why you are here. Now that is logical!
Absolute Naturists arrow Club Orient New Face Search

SunBunny

Posted: Feb 4, 2012

ok fellas, before we have any blood shed, let me go back to the original intent. This was always about potential conflicts of interest between national organizations and individual organizations (AANR v Club O). I think it would be terribly naive to NOT believe "sex sells" in advertising and that the majority of persons in the world still think social nudity is all sexually based.
Example, the two topics on this group with the highest nuber of views could be consider sex based by title. Nude in Public = 11,748 views, Nudist Women = 8,288 views. Topics on NCH are picked up on any internet search so it is not just NCH people looking, it is the textiles.

I think both of you have valid points, just different approaches. Debate is good. The mainpoint of the whole thing as I see is that businesses have to put their best game faces on to attract biz, even if sometimes it maybe a little off kilter. AANR has so many differest constiuents that it becomes even more difficult for them to keep a balance. dammed if you do and dammd if you don't sort of thing. That is not an excudse for them to hide behind but rather an logical understanding of the reality.
In the entire scheme of things, this is small stuff and as they say, don't sweat the small stuff. The big picture is getting people to these places (Club O or wherever) to see first hand that we are not all just a bunch of rabbits humping all day long, we are just normal everyday people who enjoy being nude. Am I right?
Absolute Naturists arrow Finding A Nudist Mate

SunBunny

Posted: Feb 4, 2012

Rhino and Tommy....
one small problem, This is NOT a dating site nor is this a group to assist you to find some one directly. The intent of this was only to share experiences, be they positive or negative, to maybe provide some insight into how to find a nudist mate. You have to do the work, and not on this thread. Thanks.
Thanks to all who have shared your experiences. Anyone else?
Absolute Naturists arrow Appropriate Locations for Nudity

SunBunny

Posted: Feb 3, 2012

Group....
I believe my primary job in being the group owner/moderator is to keep people thinking and talking. I believe I do a very good job of that on this group since we are the most active and fastest growing group on NCH. Are my opinions challenging...yes, do my words sometimes get you POed... yes, does my input and posts keep you thinking...yes. Am I weak, well silly you BJJB, I think we all know different. If this style of moderation offends you I apologize but it is the way it is going to be as long as I am running the group. You can choose to be here or not. I have definitely taken my share of shots from many of you, I'm still here so no problem (weak?lol). Actually it's a good thing in a weird way because you were reading, thinking, and saying what you believe. I repect that and applaud you for it. ok, enough said...please continue, blah blah blah.
Absolute Naturists arrow Nude In Public

SunBunny

Posted: Feb 3, 2012

BareFreedom,
There is another thread regarding the Bare-2-Breakers race. I am planning on being there. It would be cool to get a NCH contingent. Why don't you go to it and comment there. This thread has a little different focus. Thanks.
Absolute Naturists arrow Appropriate Locations for Nudity

SunBunny

Posted: Feb 1, 2012

While I like the parade concept, Armadillo, I think I can count only about five of us on here that might be inclined to be in it. Small parade huh. I am constantly dismayed on the number of so called nudists that are afraid to let anybody know, even within their own friends and familys, that they are nudists. I honestly believe they have yet to drop the belief that is is bad and shameful. These so-called nudists tend to want to always hang on our nude coattails dragging us down and preventing us from getting anywhere. I believe Bowser spoke to that. I wish so many times that they would just return to their place of comfort in the textile world.
Frankly, I will and have done things that I believe help move us all to a better mentality for allowing nude living to exist and become a legal civil right. How we get the chickens and wannabes out of the equation is the real challenge. There are a majority of people on this sight, and possibly even in this group who would not participate in any open action to promote nude civil rights.... and that's a fact.
Absolute Naturists arrow Appropriate Locations for Nudity

SunBunny

Posted: Jan 30, 2012

Whoooaaaa, our member Bill Bowser just nailed this one BIG TIME in AANR's Febuary issue of The Bulletin in the Letter to the Editor. GOOD JOB Bill!!!
If we all took a step like this things might begin to change and nudists would have say in what is appropriate locations to be nude. Personally I think everywhere is appropriate to be nude as long as you are being appropriate while you are nude. If you have a copy of The Bulletin, read Bill's letter and tell us what you think.
Bill... I'm in!
Absolute Naturists arrow Nudity in Foreign Countries

SunBunny

Posted: Jan 30, 2012

yep, I heard that Spain kinda closed it's doors to nudity. Anybody have any info on that or any other countries doing the same and why. Is the US on the verge of opening it's tolerance levels? SF or NYC? just a thought...
Absolute Naturists arrow Favorite Places to be Nude

SunBunny

Posted: Jan 30, 2012

Now wouldn't that be nice if shopping at Cap was just an every day sort of thing anywhere. I could easily see myself going to a mall and shopping for shoes (heels of course)... wow now that would be great!
hmmmmm, I have to work on this....
Absolute Naturists arrow Club Orient New Face Search

SunBunny

Posted: Jan 30, 2012

I have heard good things about Club "O" and it looks very nice. This wasn't intended as a beat down... business is business. I do think it is a bit of a conflict for AANR but then again... business is busines. I have not been to Club "O" but maybe someday soon we will get there.
Absolute Naturists arrow Nude Karaoke - Good for the Naked Soul

SunBunny

Posted: Jan 30, 2012

You are abosolutely CORRECT... the most fun ingrediant is the Nude Part. We just finished up a talent show here at Natures Resort and I got a chance to join in on a quartet "The Bare Notes" as we called ourselves and did a couple of classics "Tom Dooley" and "If I had a Hammer". So much fun.
If you are ever up in the WA area, LARC is a very active karaoke park. We even specialize in Banzai Karaoke where people just call out a number aand the singer does it, crazy but fun.
Really, karaoke is all about having fun with friends (especially nude friends) and it doesn't matter how good you are or not, people are very supportive at nude resorts, and we all just want to have fun.

Funny you mentioned Shangri La, where I got my start on a Friday night many years ago. Glad to hear they are still doing it.
Absolute Naturists arrow Club Orient New Face Search

SunBunny

Posted: Jan 24, 2012

The following request from Club Orient was published recently in the AANR Club /Trustee Weekly Report.

Request from Club Orient
We are currently in search for "new faces" of Club Orient. As we have done in the past, we only choose real naturists who are in good standing in all naturist organizations/communities to represent all our marketing materials. This year, we decided to request naturist organizations to ask their members to join our search.
We wish to get a better representative not only of our resort, but of the naturist community as well.
The following are the criteria we are looking for:
Must be in good standing with the nudist organization they belong to.
Must not have appeared in any unethical or pornographic photography.
Between 25-35 years old.
No tattoo or very small tattoo is accepted.
At least average built.
Clean appearance.
Must be available for a photo shoot around second week of August.
***
What do you think about this search? What do you think about AANR's involvement? Anything else? Your thoughts please.
Absolute Naturists arrow Body Acceptance and Fat Unhealthy Nudists

SunBunny

Posted: Jan 23, 2012

For the record, this thread has never been about self-acceptance or personal issues. It has always been intended as a discussion of unhealthy living traits that are frequently apparent at nudist establishments. Textiles have the same issues, they are just covered up better. It is about living healthy and long... that's all. Thanks.
SB
Absolute Naturists arrow Attract A Younger Crowd

SunBunny

Posted: Jan 23, 2012

Kamodo,
As the owner of this group and in following your discussion input, I am beginning to seriously wonder if you have confused or lost sight of what this group is all about. It is for the discussion and thought of persons who lead or want to lead a Absolute Naturist (Nude) life. It is not a LGBTI site. There are plenty of other sites dedicated to those discussions and formats, this is not it. You have pretty much divulged that you are not a nudist nor really interested in delving into a nudist mindset or community involvement. My co-moderator and I both agree, as other group members have eluded to as well, that as of late you have not added any constructive ideas or alternative views of various situations or issues that we are dealing with rather you seem to be stuck on the same rhetoric with an LGBTI focus. While I am personally a supporter of most LGBTI causes and issues, that is not what this group is about.
In short, I am of the thought that this is not the group for you. There may be other groups here on NCH that maybe better suited to you. Please decide and take appropriate action soon.
SB
Absolute Naturists arrow Finding A Nudist Mate

SunBunny

Posted: Jan 18, 2012

I don't have any questions, I was only expressing my actual experience. I think the key to to findng a nudist mate is perserverance. As I said, yes you have to cull through the numbers and that can be very exhausting and frustrating. Actually when I met Jack online (Single Nudist) I had pretty much given up on finding someone and then, when you least expect it...BANG, there it is. Crazy, I know... but it was well worth hanging in the process. Were we geographically close to each other when we started the online conversation, no. He was in Bellingham WA and I was in Los Angeles CA. We actually met face to face in Palm Springs CA, where I was managing a nudsit resort. Airplanes fly all over, they really really do.

Long story short, perserverance works if you are willing to let it and not give up or make excuses.
Absolute Naturists arrow Attract A Younger Crowd

SunBunny

Posted: Jan 18, 2012

Geez, did I hear gimmee, gimmee, gimmee.
Kamodo, I do appreciate you offering your views and thoughts on here. I always try to look at reponses as educational or enlighting. I do this by reading what others have to say, processing it against my knowledge and belief system and then responding to what they say, not just ignoring and keeping on my merry path with blah blah blah. Anyway, thats how I roll. I say this because you did not. Let's try again.
1)...so have you ever suggested the Spring Break incentive to any clubs you think young people would go to?
2)Have you ever written to AANR suggesting that they put a bug in someones ear about doing that?

By no answer to either of these questions in your post, you lead me to believe the answer is NO. Both of these suggestions are very easy to accomplish right from the computer you are using to post your thoughts on here.

Once again, "the simple fact is I can't want something more for you than you want it for yourself. It just doesn't work that way." By the way, good try to put it back on me.

Do I want a grey retirement nudst home as your eluded to, no I don't and I am constantly working on that as I view the situation. Is it my job, to change that for YOU as you view the situation, NO. It's your job, if you really and truly want that to occur. It is to your benefit.
As I also said before, "there comes a time when you need to quit talkin' and start doin', maybe now is that time", again.
Absolute Naturists arrow Finding A Nudist Mate

SunBunny

Posted: Jan 17, 2012

Thanks for those responses. They are in line of what I was thinking. Let me ask a another question. Have any of you ever considered joining the nudist dating website... SingleNudist.com? It is the the other communication website that Brian (owner of NCH) started many years ago. As with any internet dating site you will have to cull through wackys and bleeding hearts, but if you are really serious about finding a NUDIST mate this could well be a good place to start. The other websites will get you only nudist negative responses because they are not geared to the nudist mindset so don't bother with those. Those folks align nudity with sex.
hmmmm, so how would I know these things and why would I make such a suggestion? Here is a little story. After a number of years following my divorce from a non-nudist spouse where social nudity was always an issue, I decided that if I ever got married again it would be with someone who understands and enjoys social nudism. I did the non-nudist oriented dating sites and was trounced upon by guys that wanted to get in this "naked chicks" pants as soon as I mentioned I was a nudist in my profile and wanted to meet someone who was a nudist. I never realized that there would be 15,000 male nudists wanting to meet me in 30 minutes... geez, c'mon what a joke. My now husband and I met on SingleNudist. We live a nudist life and are enjoing every minute of it. Maybe you should try it. It works if you want it to.
Absolute Naturists arrow Attract A Younger Crowd

SunBunny

Posted: Jan 17, 2012

ok Kamodo... so have you ever suggested the Spring Break incentive to any clubs you think young people would go to? Have you ever written to AANR suggesting that they put a bug in someones ear about doing that? I believe the answer to those two questions is NO. If I am wrong, my apolgies.
I have to agree with FireProf's response earlier in this thread. It seems like the younger folks don't want to do anything themselves... it is just gimme gimme gimme. The two clubs that I am a member at and even my own non-landed club would welcome any suggestions in this regard. C'mon, the simple fact is I can't want something more for you than you want it for yourself. It just doesn't work that way. I don't know of any club administrators that would outright reject any suggestion that would open the door to a new segment of customers like youger folks that could potentially led to their business longevity. Sure there might be a few old grumblers but there always will be grumblers, ignore them. There comes a time when you need to quit talkin' and start doin', maybe now is that time.
Absolute Naturists arrow Single male. Problem?

SunBunny

Posted: Jan 16, 2012

Skiflydive,
While I can appreciate your frustration with persons who have not experienced the single male discrimination commenting, but to say these members have no business responding is wrong and unacceptable, please do not do it again.
All opinions are valuable no matter what and I for one appreciate, maybe not agree, with what all members of this group have to say.
You probably never read my Letter to the Editor in the August 2011 AANR Bulletin (thousands of nudists did), but in that letter I spoke to the owner of Gymno-Vita nudist club who openly said he discriminated against single men at his club in a previous Bulletin article. He further declared that AANR has no business telling him anything about that either. His club is NOT a 100% AANR member club so he is right, as a private business owner he can do what he pleases. His he right in my opinion as an independent business, but he is wrong in in the promotion of nudism or the nudist world as a whole. As we all know, some of you having experienced, the only way to combat this mentality is to take action to boycott them and speak out openly against them, not just bitch on sites like this. That's what I did and do whenever the opportunity arises. hmmm, guess what, I have not been directly discriminated in the fashion you spoke so I guess you think I have no business writing here about it or in the AANR Bulletin.
Support clubs/resort that don't discriminate... simple as that. The three clubs I am associated with do not discriminate. They are: LARC in Mount Veron,WA; Natures Resort in Edcouch,TX; NorthWest Naturist Boating Club in Bellingham, WA. Maybe members can list clubs that they personally know discriminate or don't.
Absolute Naturists arrow What brought you here?

SunBunny

Posted: Jan 11, 2012

Almost every day I have requests to join Absolute Naturists. As some of you know it can be a little rough and tumble in the honest discussions we have on here so I guess in that way I find these requests intriguing. As the owner of the group, I would appreciate if each member of this group could share a few words as to why you wanted to join Absolute Naturist. Is it meeting your expectations. What you like or don't like. Any other comments or thoughts would be appreciated as well. Thank you.
SB
Absolute Naturists arrow Finding A Nudist Mate

SunBunny

Posted: Jan 11, 2012

I want to know what EXACTLY are the stumbling blocks you have encountered in this area. The desire/inerest keeps arising in peoples intros/profiles so tell me what's the problem? Is it actually the lack of nudist persons interested or is it you? This applies both ways a far as the sexes are concerned.
I think this is an important topic, it was at the bottom of the heap, and I wanted to bring it to the surface again. Let's talk about it, this is your chance to put it out there if you are REALLY interested in finding a Nudist Mate.
Absolute Naturists arrow Nude In Public

SunBunny

Posted: Jan 11, 2012

I have to say that I am AMAZED by the number of views this topic has received. Over 10,000 views and still growing.
Is it the Taboo aspect? The erotic aspect? The sexuality aspect? Obviously a lot of people are looking but I am very sure the majority of these are not nudists. Is this a problem for the nudist/naturist community? Should/Could we exploit it to our benefit? I ask myself these questions when I see things like this...and then lay back nude in the sunshine sipping on some ice tea and say, let them look while I enjoy. What do you think about this?
Absolute Naturists arrow Body Acceptance and Fat Unhealthy Nudists

SunBunny

Posted: Jan 9, 2012

How can anyone honestly argue with this statement:
"Just because we accept our bodies should not preclude making them better and more healthy. As naturists, shouldnt healthy living be part of what we strive for?"
I totally agree with you Armadillo, thanks. That is what this topic was originally all about.
Absolute Naturists arrow Topless Equalty

SunBunny

Posted: Jan 7, 2012

Cyn,
Thanks for your comment, you are a lovely and brave lady for taking a row with us scruffs. We need more input from the women in this group to truly get a balanced perspective. I appreciate all you have to say and thank you very much. Please continue. Am I right Guys?!
SB
Absolute Naturists arrow Why Can't We Decide...

SunBunny

Posted: Jan 7, 2012

Gosh FireProf, I just can't resist commenting on your post. xSkater said in another topic that we needed a little more LOL on here and I think he is right. So here go's: (please don't take offense)
FP: Most people don't like to be "looked at" or "talked about."
SB: Unless you are in Hollywood.

FP: Take for instance a recent comment made about being "almost nude" in public. If a female goes into the super market wearing a caftan (?) and flip flops and NOTHING else...is she looked at differently as the woman who is wearing a dress or pants and top?
SB: Depends how much cleavage is showing. Cleavage seems to always win in that contest.

FP: I would think that lots of men would be following the woman around the store in the caftan wondering..."what's she got on under that thing!"
SB: No, actually just the security guys wondering what may be getting stuffed under there. It was me, remember, and I was there.

FP: How many times have any of us ever gone someplace and said to ourselves...or those with us..."what the hell is that person wearing!?"
SB: Many times... but always at WalMart.

FP: There are those with tatoos and piercings. They are noticed, talked about, joked about...even spoken negatively about...
SB: Not at a Biker Rally, Nosireee, and it doesn't matter what you are wearing or not wearing. Always a bad ending in that book.

FP: Think the vast majority of people just want to blend in the sea of humanity and not be that bright red bouy with the dinging bell, standing out their alone.
SB: Ouch, did I hear sunburn somewhere on the body. More SPF please, especially there. Bright Red Bouy, dinging bells... wow that hurts to even think about it.

FP: Those that are willing to be bouy's are special people and many of those not wanting that attention...sit back and wish they could but...as is evident...there aren't many of those buoy's out there.
SB: But it is always a cozy little party, isn't it.

Thanks FireProf, I enjoyed this little escaped. Hope you and everyone else does as well. Your comment, on a serious note is appreciated and true.
;) backatcha!
Absolute Naturists arrow Anonymity and the Naturist Movement

SunBunny

Posted: Jan 7, 2012

Not a problem... I think we are on the same page as far as FB and I appreciate your words. One of my nieces, family right, graduated from San Diego State Univ. a couple of years ago. She was very popular (not to mention incredibly attractive) at SDSU, consequently had almost the entire SDSU studentbody as friends in FB. If I left my profile open, all these people (about 8,000+) would have access to me or what ever I communicated. I am not really interested in that. To me, that is the flaw with things like FB when applied to the non college student body population that it was originally designed for. Did you see the movie, Social Network? The friends thing on there just doesn't work for me and I just don't have the mental capacity (ugggh)or desire to sit at my computer all day with FB. I don't have an Iphone either...don't need it, don't want it. It's called retired and having fun.
Absolute Naturists arrow Anonymity and the Naturist Movement

SunBunny

Posted: Jan 7, 2012

John,
let me apoigize for my abruptness, I am sure you meant your post in jest. Thank you for ignoring my comment. I had a bunch of irriateing boogeys on me when I responded. No matter, still no excuse, sorry. You are one of the few on AN that provides solid thoughtful input and I appreciate that. I look forward to your continuance and willingness to provide comment. again, mea culpa.

As far as your post, it does dovetail into this media concept and how we react to it. What does a "friend" really mean? What do we feel comfortable sharing with strangers? I believe we have another topic about that. It is a good discussion. Maybe we can resurrect that topic.
SB
Absolute Naturists arrow Body Acceptance and Fat Unhealthy Nudists

SunBunny

Posted: Jan 7, 2012

I do not judge. I do not hide. I speak my mind. I think for myself. I take responsibility or my own actions. Don't put your stuff on me. If anything in this thread or any others has hit a nerve, maybe you need to evaluate that if you so desire.

I try to initiate topics on this AN group that encourages people to think outside of their boxes. To hear other persons viewpoints and possibily gain from them. Does it challenge some people, yes it does. Is that a bad thing, I think not but that is your call. That is why the Absolute Naturist group here on NCH is the most popular and active group. Look at the stats, they don't lie. Read the group mantra, it says it right there. That is the purpose of internet sites like this. If you don't want to allow yourself to hear other viewpoints or be challenged in your opinions, maybe this group is not good for you. There are many other sites that you can share pictures and pleasantries... even here on NCH.
Absolute Naturists arrow Anonymity and the Naturist Movement

SunBunny

Posted: Jan 7, 2012

I am not fan of Facebook. I rarely go to it. Actually I have not even looked at that account in at least a month. I am only there so I can keep in touch easily with some family members and a few close friends. I am not interested in having 100's of "friends". I don't have the time or patience to play games on there and tell everybody about mindless nonsense. If anybody in the nudist arena really wants to contact me there are plenty of other places. I am in the AANR Bulletin fairly frequently, twice in the January issue. I am co-owner of a nudist boating club with a website. Facebook has nothing to do with my principles or me. I am not a heard mentality type and in my opinion that is what Facebook is really all about.
Anything else John?
Absolute Naturists arrow Why Can't We Decide...

SunBunny

Posted: Jan 6, 2012

Roll this around in your head... there would be no Nudist Resorts...just Resorts for relaxation and enjoyment as you deem fit.
Absolute Naturists arrow Body Acceptance and Fat Unhealthy Nudists

SunBunny

Posted: Jan 6, 2012

Now who is waving the Judgment Flag? Sounds like the flag is being used as an excuse again. If you re-read the original topic post and reiterated several times there after, this was never about those who had physical background challenges to weight...NEVER! This was never about judgment...NEVER!Actually I said “Body Acceptance is one of the mantras of social nudity and in my view a very good thing.” We are all human and all different, what is so hard to get about that. I get it and I think everyone else on here does as well.
Let's get real, if this topic is troubling to you, you are choosing to personalize it rather than be proactive and discuss the issues of the topic. If you have ever gone to a nudist club and not seen somebody who is extremely overweight and very physically unfit, you have your eyes closed. Let's take the emotion out of the equation and talk about the original issue which is “when does body acceptance give license to be grossly fat, unhealthy and not a subscriber of even minimal physical fitness”. If this offends you...read this again.
Absolute Naturists arrow Why Can't We Decide...

SunBunny

Posted: Jan 5, 2012

In my opinion... I think the whole point of what this woman is saying, and why I posted it, is why have we let ourselves fall into the trap of letting others determine our behaviors of style or dress. It is really not about Nudism. It is about the mindless heard mentality without thought or challenge. We have been condition and act daily within this mindless conditioning. How mindless is this. I think it is always good to every so often stop our own little worlds and think about the things we do on a daily basis without even thinking. Change of action begins with change of thinking.
Being a nudist has nothing to do with this. I like to be nude, fine. I like to wear nice clothes, fine. I like to wear casual and comfortable clothes,fine. No big deal. BUT I Decide what I want to do in this regard. The legal system, society, religious entities, and the politcs of all these infringe in my right to freedom in this respect. Why, because of a unchallenged belief by the masses that the human body is lewd and offensive. Consequently I am forced to live in a walled compound to live nude when I want to. We only have the illusion of freedom. How wrong is that... think about it, if you can.
Absolute Naturists arrow Why Can't We Decide...

SunBunny

Posted: Jan 5, 2012

... to wear clothes or not? Its a good question I think. What do you think?



naked rant 2 - clothes by nudemuse
Absolute Naturists arrow How To: Talk Nude Quietly

SunBunny

Posted: Jan 3, 2012

Thanks Skiflydive, It is an excellent article. I hope most of you read it. By the way I do have a pair of Black Heels if it helps.

I am trying to think of something I can have printed on a T-Shirt that speaks to this almost backdor approach. Anybody have any ideas?
Absolute Naturists arrow New Year Nude Plans... Not Resolutions

SunBunny

Posted: Jan 3, 2012

My plan is to keep spreading the word that being Nude is a Good Thing. I am going to carry a few AANR and Naturist Society phamplets with my name and email address labeled on them everywhere I go and if and when someone asks I will simply give them one of the info pieces. That way the can check out more info if they want to at their convienence, absorb and think about how they can fit the concept in their lives at their pace, explore it on their own time, contact me for more info if they like and talk about it with their own friends in a more knowledgable way if they want. It is a passive way, but I think a powerful way of passing the word. Hope it works.
Absolute Naturists arrow Most Fun While Nude

SunBunny

Posted: Jan 3, 2012

Tell us about the Most Fun you ever had while totally nude.
It can be anything, indoors, outdoors, with others, by yourself, really just anything... as long as you were having the most fun you can ever remember while you were nude.
Tell us about it...Thanks!
Absolute Naturists arrow New Year Nude Plans... Not Resolutions

SunBunny

Posted: Dec 27, 2011

What are your thoughts and plans for this coming year in the realm of nudity? What are you doing New Years Eve?
It seems like every year I have ask this question and many are all Gung-Ho to make resolutions to change and be more active with their nude life... but like with diets, it doesn't happen. So forget the nude resolutions...what are you really going to do in 2012? Please share your thoughts.
Absolute Naturists arrow Your Best Christmas Memories... What are they?

SunBunny

Posted: Dec 24, 2011

When I was a little kid I remember my parents would wait until Christmas Eve to put the presents under the tree, after I had gone to sleep. In the days prior, I would be all bummed because there would be no or very few presents under the tree. I would make every attempt to talk to all the Santa's I would see at the stores to convince then I had been good all year just as an insurance back up plan. It was always so exciting to get up Christmas morning to find lots of presents under and around the tree. Looking back as an adult, there really weren't that many presents but in a little kid eyes there were lots and lots. I still smile fondly when I think of those mornings.
Absolute Naturists arrow Your Best Christmas Memories... What are they?

SunBunny

Posted: Dec 21, 2011

In your entire life, what are your best/fondest memories of Christmas? Please share if you like.

We wish all of you a wonderful Christmas.
SunBunny & FireProf
Absolute Naturists arrow Anonymity and the Naturist Movement

SunBunny

Posted: Dec 15, 2011

Who is SunBunny? Who is FireProf? Who is Luxorsecurity? These are anonymous nicknames of persons who have used their real names on this site and/or other nudist publications, that's who they are.

One of the greatest detriments to making public and social nudity a reality is anonymity, which this and many other nudist sites encourage or require.

In the Editors Note of the newest issue (31.1) of "N" Nude & Natural magazine published by The Naturist Society this subject is addressed. Please read it if you can or get a copy of this issue ($9 from TNS). Here are a some quotes from the article:

"Anonymity has the appearance of lack of committment to one's stated beliefs and approach to living."

"In the first year's of the 21st century...we have seen a troubling trend among the socially naked wishing to have their name obscured."

"Every publication that regulary allows reference to anonymous abbreviations or nick names is tacitly urging it's readers to hide as if they were doing something wrong".

What are your thoughts on this topic?
Absolute Naturists arrow How To Make Public Nudity A Reality

SunBunny

Posted: Dec 15, 2011

One of the greatest detriments to making public nudity a reality is anonymity, which this and many other nudist sites encourage. We need to change this in our thinking, our actions, and our publication continuance.

Another new topic coming up.
Cassandra Bazhaw, aka SunBunny
Absolute Naturists arrow True Marks of a Leader, What are they?

SunBunny

Posted: Dec 15, 2011

In your opinion and thinking, please describe what you would view as true marks, traits or indicators of a Leader. What would you look for, from all angles, in a person if you needed a leader to pursue a near and dear project of yours?
Absolute Naturists arrow Introvert or extrovert?

SunBunny

Posted: Dec 15, 2011

I appreciate all the valid points and demonstrated experiences that have been shared by "introverts" who have been called upon to serve in leadership positions. It offers greater clarity to my post of earlier and provides more validity. What I have heard is that when someone with a introverted personality type is called upon to serve in a leadership position, they are able and can serve, maybe even admirably.
Now here is where the cheese get's binding. I have yet to hear, see or experience a person with an introverted personality take a first step into an unknown to make something happen, to step into the firing line of either unknown consequence or potentially negative consequence to bring an issue or reality to fruition. I have personally known this type of person and personality trait and they are far from introverts. They may be quiet and inner thinkers, but not intoverts. There my friends is the difference in my opinion.

This thread has led to a very good discussion for another topic specifically about leadership which I will post. Thanks for all your input. Keep it going.
Absolute Naturists arrow Attract A Younger Crowd

SunBunny

Posted: Dec 13, 2011

Ok,no, I did not misunderstand...I know he said he prefers clubs that are within the keeping of positive social nudity, not swinging and junk. That is to his credit and speaks positively to his upbringing. It sounds like he is the type of person who we seek in continuing the future of social nudity.
What I was trying to relay is that using those terms only serves to piss off the pope in the big picture. The old folks are in charge, c'mon lets get real. I don't care what the age preferred dialect is... the old folks will hear that as disrepectful and probably rebuff anything he has to say. His style of writing is hard to understand because it was a very backdoor approach so I had to read what he was saying several times to try to figure it out (and I am no dummy), I got it. There was a very good article in the recent "N" magazine put out by The Naturist Society (TNS) speaking to this exact issue of attracting the younger set. There are alot of things that can be done in any club or resort to make them more attractive to younger persons but I just don't think calling them Stogy or Puritanical in any manner is going to help the cause. Words are powerful and sometimes I don't think the younger generations uderstand that. I would appreciate HarryJ's take on this if he is so inclined, or anybody else's for that matter.
Absolute Naturists arrow How To Make Public Nudity A Reality

SunBunny

Posted: Dec 13, 2011

Isn't this really the "Ultimate Goal" for this group. I know there are many of us who understand that but in another thread it appears that we have some still lost souls. We have another thread title "What is an Absolute Nudist?" which also speaks to this in a more clarifying approach. The discussion in the thread that got me thinking about achieving the "Ultimate Goal" of being and living nude led me back to this topic. To acheive a goal, the goal should be clear and understood by all. In my opinon there is nothing vague about the stated goal. Our individual and collective approach or method in getting there may be different, yet the core goal remains the same.
What do you think?
Absolute Naturists arrow Attract A Younger Crowd

SunBunny

Posted: Dec 13, 2011

I am not sure I would use the words "stogy" or "puritanical" to decribe an orgaization like AANR that promotes without eception safe, healthy, wholesome, respectful and welcoming social and recreational nudity. Maybe we are saying the same things from an age different perspective.
Clubs that promote and/or allow open sexuality, swinging, and disrepectful behaviors onle serve to degrade the positive aspect of social and recreational nudity. They should never be allowed to carry the AANR or TNS brand.
A more important point to consider in your post Harry J is the use of words and how they are perceived by all ages or nudists, especially those that have been around much longer than you. It sounds like you are begining to get a good grasp of wholesome family oriented social nudity, yet name calling and labeling may overshadowed that. For the future and to all the benefit you may bring in your thoughts, please think about the descriptive words you are thinking before inking them.
Thanks for contributing.
SB
Absolute Naturists arrow Introvert or extrovert?

SunBunny

Posted: Dec 13, 2011

Not labels... thought provoking conversation and debate. It helps everybody gain new prespective and keep growing. Try it barefreedom.
Do you have anything of substance to contribute?
SB
Absolute Naturists arrow Introvert or extrovert?

SunBunny

Posted: Dec 12, 2011

Dave88,
I cannot advise you on what you can do to reach your ultimate goal nor anyone elses for that matter. That is not my job here. As for the Absolute Naturists group here on NCH, the ultimate goal is simple (read the description): To be and live nude. That is what I referred to in my previous post.
There are many topics on this group to help you out with that and you as well as everybody else are more than welcome to ask questions or seek insight to acomplish that goal if you are truly interested.

Absolute Naturists arrow Introvert or extrovert?

SunBunny

Posted: Dec 12, 2011

mea culpa Smokey...
but I believe you categorized yourself previously not as just an "introvert" but rather as a "Hardcore Introvert". Maybe you need to reconsider that before jumping on my case. Whatever I guess, but I do agree that our human natures do provide a vast array of extensions within which to view and live life. Some of us are more fluid in the way we encounter daily life. However, in all my teachings in psychology, this is a psycholical trait that is inherent in ones core system and is not changeable, only varied or adapted by degree of given external experiences.
I believe BillBowser started this thread to explore how we view our personalities and consequently how we choose to interact with others. It is an interesting thread as FireProf has stated and not the typical gooblygook usually found in this type of site. Topic postings such as this are always welcomed here on Absolute Naturists. Thanks for posting it BillBowser.
Absolute Naturists arrow Introvert or extrovert?

SunBunny

Posted: Dec 11, 2011

As I have followed this thread somewhat quizical. I keep coming back to an interesting observation. The only two persons who so far consider themselves, by whatever equation, as Extroverts are the same ones leading this Group, FireProf and myself. The simple deduction that could be made is that Introverts are not given to leadership. They have a greater comfort level as supporters, be they strong or weak, but will not put themselves on a firing line inthe same way a leader needs to do. That's ok since it is very difficult for a group leader to lead without a group. It makes sense, look at most all the leaders in any grouping, and NCH is no exception, they usualy are extroverts if you read or listen to their words.
While I have no issues with public speaking or openly giving my thoughts and opinions on any given subject, I do believe there are those who may be equally passionate about a subject but for whatever reasons cannot openly express that but yet will support it to the end. I can appreciate and respect that. In many ways that is why we have sites such as these, so you can express your views in the comfort of your own world and make your statement. It works, it's cool. It's just that I really never thought about it before and relieves me of some frustration in trying to understand why many of you are not greater activist, especially in a group that requires activism to reach it's ultimate goal. It is very easy for me to do it and not so easy with a introvert personality, I get it. Thanks for opening my eyes a little wider on this very human subject.
Absolute Naturists arrow Nude Fun in the Winter

SunBunny

Posted: Dec 11, 2011

My Dearest FuzzyBare,
uhhhh, ummmm, NO! I will leave it to you PolarBares to have the fun in freezing temps, heck, I mean someone has to do it...and it ain't gonna be me, for sure for sure.
You do bring up a good point though, it IS possible to enjoy your nudity in the colder temps so I think your message is a good one. If you cannot make it to a warmer clime in the cold drudges of winter... then find some warm pond water and jump in naked, yeah baby! Have a good time, enjoy the beautiful snow and stay nude.
Absolute Naturists arrow Nude Fun in the Winter

SunBunny

Posted: Dec 8, 2011

That would be:
-> Outdoor Hottubing when snowing = No
-> Outdoor Sauna-ing when snowing = No
-> Anything else outdoors when it is SNOWING...uhhh NO!
I am sure those are all some unique and maybe wonderful experiences but I am in South Texas playing water volleyball when snow people are shoveling. Thanks for thinking about me.
SunBunny
Absolute Naturists arrow Introvert or extrovert?

SunBunny

Posted: Dec 8, 2011

Extrovert here... hard guess huh.
But I do think if anybody can't count their "real friends" (and please don't disect this you intro's) on more than one hand they are not introverts or extroverts... just dang lucky.
Fun Topic, Thanks!
SB
Absolute Naturists arrow AANR & TNS Memberships

SunBunny

Posted: Dec 7, 2011

Support it or Loose it... simple as that.

To BillBowser, photon7378, 1Human, Smoothalx... thank you for your continued support, we are in good company. Your words speak volumes.
SB
Absolute Naturists arrow AANR & TNS Memberships

SunBunny

Posted: Dec 6, 2011

Having just received the latest issue of "N" magazine, the Naturist Society's publication, and reading through the many interesting and educating articles I thought about this post... and in a dishearten way. Why disheartened? Because of a cover letter informing readers that TNS had to let go one of their fantastic staff members due to buget shortages. Their budget is based on membership dues and monetary contributions. Obviously these are not keeping up with rising expenses.

On NCH, and this AN Group more specifically, we "blab" about how much we appreciate nude recreation and would enjoy the ability to live nude as much as possible. Yet, we seem to put those organizations that promote nude living and defend our rights to be nude on the back burner as if they are not important. We make excuses for not becomng members of these same organization that support you no matter. Maybe I am closer to these organizations than many of you since I have regular conversations with their staff people on a variety subjects and provide input to them when ask for it. I appreciate and support these organizations and all the work they do for me and my desire to live and recreate nude. My hubby and I are members of both these organizations and support them as much as we can.

For the price of a carton of cigarettes you can support and become a member of either TNS or AANR for a year and it is much better for your health. For less than the cost of a new replacement cell phone that you don't need you can support and become a member of either TNS or AANR for a year and you will still get all your phone calls. If you consider yourself to be an Absolute Naturist, if you enjoy the ability to be nude in the wonderful outdoors, if you enjoy the ability to recreate and socialize with nude friends, if you would like national organizations to support and help you should the law someday swope down on you... Support these organizations with your membership dollars.
It is simply a matter of priorities...where are yours?
Please join or at least buy something from them. Every dollar helps.
Absolute Naturists arrow Nude Fun in the Winter

SunBunny

Posted: Dec 4, 2011

My suggestion to everyone in the group who reside in a cold winter doldrums... Get the "H" out of there, even for just a few days and go somewhere warm and sunny. It works wonders for depression and the shivers and it is not that hard to do... if you really make your mind up to do it and not make excuses.
Absolute Naturists arrow Like Minded - What Does That Really Mean?

SunBunny

Posted: Dec 1, 2011

Excellent discussion folks... keep it up. I think you are all getting the point of the topic. We use this "like minded" term so loosely that some could be lulled into thinking we all came from the same pea pod. Not so bucko.
ok, I am going to have some cookies now too...
Absolute Naturists arrow The Nudist Click Moment

SunBunny

Posted: Nov 29, 2011

Any new "Click Moments" from anyone? I know we have lot's of new members in the group that we have not heard from. How about a few words on this topic, it is an easy one and I think we have all had one of these moments. Please share.
Absolute Naturists arrow If Nudity was Legal, Would it Become Commonplace?

SunBunny

Posted: Nov 29, 2011

You are right, the whole hoop-tee-do was about being nude in eating establshments and using towel when you sit on a public bench and yes it was focused on the gay district...HOWEVER, the fact remains that public nudity is not illegal ANYWHERE in San Francisco. What that means is that next time I am in San Francisco, I can be nude anywhere I want to be, outside of a food place, and don't have to worry about being arrested. That's a big step. I could probably just wear a sarong in Starbucks and be good too.
I really don't care if it becomes commonplace or not, it would be just nice to be able to be nude with no hassles.
Absolute Naturists arrow Topless Equalty

SunBunny

Posted: Nov 29, 2011

As much as I don't like to think this, Ladies... I think the guys are right. The majority of women ARE NOT WILLING to go topless in public. In fact, women are becoming the greater non-supporters of the right to be top-free.
I would really like to hear WHAT YOU WOMEN ARE THINKING about on this topic. This question is aimed at ALL women on NCH, not just in this group.
This is a challenge.
Absolute Naturists arrow Supporting Nude Living

SunBunny

Posted: Nov 29, 2011

What can you do to support and promote nude living? What have you done? What can you do today? Are you really willing to do what you can to make this happen?

If you truly have the desire to live nude, as the mantra of this group states, you are going to have to do more than just talk about it or do a few random neighborhood excursions. Let's hear from all of you in this group.
Absolute Naturists arrow Introduce Yourself

SunBunny

Posted: Nov 29, 2011

SimplyLiving, thank you for sharing your wonderful story and being part of our group.
As I read your intro I thought, what a perfect place you have for a Nudist B&B, Non-Landed Club or a Mini-Resort. I would really like your input on the two topics related to that here in Absolute Naturist. Welcome to the group.
SB
Absolute Naturists arrow If Nudity was Legal, Would it Become Commonplace?

SunBunny

Posted: Nov 29, 2011

I see my daily life in a nudist community as a microcosm of what the world would be like if we did not put such intense focus on nudity. Most of the hype, sexualization and demonizing would likely go away. Would everybody be nude 24/7, of course not. You probably would not even regard it as commonplace, just not a big deal.
Absolute Naturists arrow Nude In Public

SunBunny

Posted: Nov 23, 2011

Well how about almost nude in public...
As I have probably said from time to time, the downside of living in nude resorts 24/7 is that you really have a tough time (mentally) getting dressed to go to the store or somewhere like that. Finally I hit upon an idea, and it can work for men also but moe so for women, when a ran across a website that had Caftans from Bali. I have bunches of Pareos (sarongs) but they fit loose and in the Texas winds would surely blow open so they are not a good solution. These Caftans are colorful, One size fits all so they are roomy and very comfortable, slip over your head easily and quickly, and you can be totally nude underneath and know one will probably ever know. As soon as you get back to your nudie place, slip it back over your head and you are nude again...simple. I just got back from getting stuff for TG at the local market, wore my Caftan totally nude underneath, and it was great. Got back and within 2 minutes I was nude again....yippeeee. I have to say, it was kinda fun being almost nude at the grocery store with all the other shoppers never even suspecting. One lady even admired my colorful Caftan because they are a little unusual here in TX. She said it look really comfortable... she had no idea just how comfortable it was.
Absolute Naturists arrow Nude Karaoke - Good for the Naked Soul

SunBunny

Posted: Nov 21, 2011

The first time I sang karaoke at a nudist place was ShangriLa in AZ many years ago. I still think they do it on Friday nights. I was scared to death to sing... until I finished my 5th Martini and then had at it. Since then, I karaoke anywhere and everywhere... nude or not, and have lot's of fun with it. My experience is that karaoke is for FUN and part of the fun is singing badly and laughing about it at the same time.
Absolute Naturists arrow Nude Karaoke - Good for the Naked Soul

SunBunny

Posted: Nov 20, 2011

Have you ever? Would You Like To? Let's talk about it and share. Singing Karaoke Naked (not in the the shower either) in front of a crowd can be a freeing experience for the soul. Let's have fun with this one. Please share your thoughts...EVERYBODY!
SB
Absolute Naturists arrow Benefits of The Non-Landed Nudist Club

SunBunny

Posted: Nov 17, 2011

The most critical part of a non-landed club is the leadership. As Cheri said, and as I have experienced from our non-landed club, without the constant activity by the leader... member activity drops off. Something to think about if you want to start a non-landed club. Oh yeah, one more thing, you are probably not going to get monetarily wealthy from all the work you have to do. There are other payoffs though...
Absolute Naturists arrow Nude Fun in the Winter

SunBunny

Posted: Nov 17, 2011

What can you do or have you done during the winter months (brrrrr) that is FUN and keeps your nudist/naturist side out of hibernation?

Please share, your ideas or past experiences just might help one of us enjoy a nude winter. Now Go For It!
Absolute Naturists arrow Hot Tubs and Nudists

SunBunny

Posted: Nov 16, 2011

Who still go's in you asked... well I don't, I won't, nope not gonna... germies are germies dead or alive. Even some medical people I know don't advise it, especially public hot tubs. I prefer cool water anyway, especially in Hot Texas.
Absolute Naturists arrow Clothing Optional

SunBunny

Posted: Nov 16, 2011

As some of you might guess, I am not a fan of C/O - BUT - Our boating non-landed nudist club is boldly listed on our website as Clothing Optional with the caveat that nude is strongly encourage at club events. Why, exactly for the same reason the Travelites do it and also as FrireProf spoke of. If it gives people an opportunty to stick their toes in, why be hardass about it... right? That's the way I roll anyway.
Absolute Naturists arrow Gender Change and Nudist Clubs/Resorts

SunBunny

Posted: Nov 14, 2011

Smokey,
You got it right on so many levels as you always seem to do. Thanks!

In the November 2011 issue of AANR's The Bulletin, AANR President Susan Weaver even made a comment about Transgender. She said, " One friend who planned to go through a transgender experience told me he found it easier to talk to me because I was not judgemental".

So there it is, as I said in a post earlier, you are going to start hearing and seeing more about gender transitions and I think it and would behoove us all to get onboard with this issue.
Absolute Naturists arrow Hot Tubs and Nudists

SunBunny

Posted: Nov 14, 2011

Have you ever thought about what could be swirling around in the water of a Hot Tub at your local nudist club? Why are we so quick to PooPoo sitting on a chair without a towel, but never give a blink to being in a Hot Tub where many people have been in and the water is basically recirculated and change very infrequently. What do you think about this?
Absolute Naturists arrow Nude Cruises

SunBunny

Posted: Nov 14, 2011

Guapo,
Your a good man, La Loca is lucky to have you! Hubby and I are contemplating going on that cruise. I know y'all are going to enjoy yourselves.

Anybody else thinking of doing that cruise? There is a full page spread on the back cover of the November issue of the AANR Bulletin. Also you can go to CRUISENUDE.COM for info. Cruise date is February 9-17, 2013.

NorthWest Outdoor Nudists arrow Nude Winter - Fun things to do

SunBunny

Posted: Nov 13, 2011

Name some fun things that you can do during the winter months in the NW?
This can be anything in the area or getting out of the area.
Absolute Naturists arrow Nude Cruises

SunBunny

Posted: Nov 12, 2011

I checked with a few friends that have been on nude cruises (I have not been on one) and they said that YES you get dressed in the dining room. They said some women wear sheer elegant cover ups or dresses but the guys where pants or shorts and shirts. At the casual outside dining areas nude is the norm unless you are in port where they may require you to be dressed. I guess the dressing in the dining room, which applies to all meals served there, and especialy on the Captain's Dinner Night where it is usually always formal, go's along with the nude etiquette thing. It is not a Ballroom, it is a Dining Room. Just what I have heard... so there you go.
Absolute Naturists arrow Simply Living Nude

SunBunny

Posted: Nov 8, 2011

Yes I am fortunate to be able to live nude as I do, but that is not what I was getting at. I guess my point, for lack of a better way of saying it, is that this type of interaction is possible and quite normal when you remove the issue of sex from the equation. This is what we all need to strive for in our convictions, beliefs and everyday actions if we want it to happen.
I do hope that one day you can enjoy nude living as I do. It is an unbelievable life.
Absolute Naturists arrow Butt / Genital Covers: Should it be Required

SunBunny

Posted: Nov 8, 2011

The Vote is in:
SF Board of Supervisors voted 11 to 0 to ban nudity in resturants but still maintain that it is legal to be nude in public in the City. The sitting on towels is also part of the law. This was a public safety health issue based law.
I don't know how y'all feel about it but I like it. It is what we nudist's do anyway.

The story: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2057309/San-Fransisco-law-change-means-nudist-cover-up.html
Absolute Naturists arrow Simply Living Nude

SunBunny

Posted: Nov 8, 2011

I had an intresting experience the other day which speaks to the essence of this topic.
We are now living at our home in the nudist park in Texas. It is a NUDIST community, not a Clothing Optional. We do have local contractors and other craft people come into our small community. They are not nudists but know we are. Anyway, we are thinking of having an addition to our home but not quite sure what yet. So the contractor and I were walking around our patio area discussing different ideas and taking wall measurements... me completely nude, him dressed. It was no big deal either way and looking back at the moment, it was the perfect example of Simply Living Nude. I just wish my hubby had taken a picture... it was so normal that it would have been priceless.

Absolute Naturists arrow Teaching You Children About Social Nudity

SunBunny

Posted: Nov 6, 2011

Our children are our future and our legacy. They listen to you, watch you, learn from you and mimic you. You are their teachers of value systems and guiding light of right and wrong. What are you teaching your children (or grandchildren) about nudity, social nudity and recreation nudity?

(I made a similiar post on Family Nudists months back but I wanted to get our groups opinions, and I know you have opinions...Thanks!)
Absolute Naturists arrow Gender Change and Nudist Clubs/Resorts

SunBunny

Posted: Nov 4, 2011

I was wondering if this topic would gain much traction... and it hasn't. Maybe because we, as a society, cannot grasp the diffence between a person's gender and sex or the difference between gender and sexual orientation. There are serious homophobes in the world and also in the nudist community. The amount of posts on this topic speaks volumes. I have to say, this is the first topic that Gaijin, Armadillo, Billyjoejimbob, FireProf and I are in accord... how strange yet how good that is. I appreciate those of you who have responded courageously and honestly. That is what this group is all about. I would sure like to hear from more of you on this because it is quickly becoming a reality at clubs across the world and you need toget your ducks sorted out about it because you are going to encounter it someday no matter where you live.
Absolute Naturists arrow Introduce Yourself

SunBunny

Posted: Nov 4, 2011

Debbie's Quote:
"I am wondering where are all the WOMEN on this site!?
Does this reflect the gender division on this whole site or just here?
It makes me sad when men tell me THEY like to be nude but their wives/girlfriends won't do it!
I wish I could tell those women that ALL NUDE WOMEN ARE BEAUTIFUL AND POWERFUL!!"

Debbie, I think you just did tell them and I totally agree with you. Please join me in encourageing women in our group and on the entire NCH system to add their words and viewpoints. It is important. We have women heading up AANR, The Naturist Society and even as club officers at many AANR regions and independent nudist clubs. Why don't we hear more from them here? Your guess is as good as mine but let's keep trying. Welcome to Absolute Nudist, the fast growing and most active group on NCH.
SB
Absolute Naturists arrow Topless Equalty

SunBunny

Posted: Nov 4, 2011

By what I have read staying within the absolute wording... yes. In actual practice, kinda doubt it. Now with that legal opinion and $16 you can buy a muffin at the a US Justice Dept conference. I hear they like muffin tops too.
Absolute Naturists arrow Uninvited Photography of Nudists

SunBunny

Posted: Nov 4, 2011

Gaijin,
BIG DIFFERENCE between ME posting pictures of myself on sites like this and SOMEONE ELSE posting pictues of me on the WORLD WIDE INTERNET that I did not know they took or gave permission for them to take or post. Ther is NOTHING EXAGGERATED about that. I hope you are smart enough to realize that. Maybe not...
This is not a topic to start a game of semantics, it is about a real problem and issue for the nudist community. One that comes up all the time in the Nudist world. What is so hard to get about that. Why do nudist clubs/reorts have policies about not taking photos with out permission or even taking pictures at all. If someone wants to go to a nudist beach and enjoy the sun and fresh air and let their kids play in the water without bathing suits, why should they be deprived of that and NOT do it because someone might take an UNIVITED and Non-Permitted picture of you, your family, your wife, or your kids. WHY? By your own actions, as you have stated, you are stopping your kids from doing that. Is that right? I guess you think it is and by that action you allow the problem to continue. Your choice, you can do whatever you want but don't try to speak for me or others who have experienced the issue. Just because I am a nudist and choose to practice my desire to live nude and be where it is appropriate does not make me a willing participant of uninvited picture taking. Geez, c'mon get real. That is the problem this topic was getting at. I do not intend to, or do I think anybody should need to get in a debate about your DEFINITIONS. This subject post is not about you or anybody else. Let's get back to discussions on the entire Topic of the post PLEASE.
Absolute Naturists arrow Benefits of The Non-Landed Nudist Club

SunBunny

Posted: Nov 2, 2011

What benefits, if any, can nudists be provided by the Non-Landed Nudist Club structure?

Many times here on AN we hear complaints about nudist clubs being to far away or to expensive. So I wanted to open a discussion about often smaller more local non-landed or travel nudist clubs. How do they or could they fit in world? Have you ever thought about starting one? Your thoughts please...

For clarification, Non-Landed is a term used to describe a nudist club that dosen't have a permanent location. They are also referred to as "travel clubs" because their activities involve traveling, even if it is just to the other side of town.
Absolute Naturists arrow Home Nudists: Walking the Talk

SunBunny

Posted: Oct 31, 2011

Thanks for your post Metal. We have many topics here on AN and I look forward to hearing your thoughts in the future. Actually you may want to post one on "Introduce Yourself", which you kinda did here.
Anyway, To keep this post on track, the original question was about self-described Home Nudists who pontificate at nauseam on the joys of nudism and yet will not attempt to step out of the confines of their own home to enjoy real nudism. Any new responses to why this is or how you feel about it?
Absolute Naturists arrow NCH Friends & Friend Requests

SunBunny

Posted: Oct 29, 2011

TexasnNewd, I appreciate your attempt at restraint... I really really do. I also clearly appreciate your position on boobs being a difficult thing to keep your hands off since they are in your face marketed everywhere and tend to make things hard on a guy, my sympathies. You are also correct that the focus many women put on them is incredible. Not a bad thing, just incredible. But boobs are not the point... "pawing" is the point. I am a big girl and I don't need FireProf to defend me on this but a little self control is always a good thing by the men who pounce on women with friend requests. My point is I try to be nice and by not denying all the friend requests but when you really think about it, what is the point of the majority of these friend requests and what value is in it for me. In general, I get a little "icky" feeling about men who's list of friends only include women. Do I want to be part of that stable, no I don't. What do you think about these "ickies"?
Tex, it is always nice to hear from you in your usual blunt and real manner, I always know where you are at on any given subject. Actually, I kinda enjoy your grasp on reality and courage to be non-PC. Also, as equally hard to believe, AN members read these posts on weekends so no duckin' out big guy.
Absolute Naturists arrow NCH Friends & Friend Requests

SunBunny

Posted: Oct 28, 2011

From a another woman's viewpoint, "friends on NCH" is very different than from what most of you guys have said. Let me blunt. From my perspective, very few of the men on here really want to form a social friendship with me, they just really want to look at my pictures. I think maybe the same applies to Blondie. Why do the majority want to look at our pictures... well you can use your imaginations. I guess there are some women on here that like that for whatever reasons but some of us women don't appreciate being "pawed". It is a real turn-off and speaks to the sexualization of websites like this one. As mentioned by BlondieNC and FireProf, women get bashed by friend requests as well as profile views. An example is my Friend Request level exceeds my husbands by several hundreds. My Profile Views exceed his by THOUSANDS. Need I say more. Yes I am probably a more visible person here on NCH so that would explain some of it but DANG people, something else has to be working also. I do appreciate the sincere requests for friendships and the nice conversations some of us have had so don't get the wrong impression. I am in the process of trimming down my "friends" here on NCH, nothing personal for the most part, just doing what I need to do for me.
Absolute Naturists arrow Gender Change and Nudist Clubs/Resorts

SunBunny

Posted: Oct 28, 2011

Should a person who is going or been through gender change be allowed or accepted at a nudist club or resort?
I am relatively sure that many of you have never encountered a person going through gender change, be it female to male or male to female. Many of us have only experienced it from TV programs. From this background, a person going from female to male may have a all the physical characteristics of a male except still have a vagina. Opposite this, a male to female may have female characteristis including full breasts but still have a penis.
When encountered in a nudist resort, where everything is on display and especially around the pool where there are kids playing, what should be the appropriate way to deal with it? Please put youself from a club owner and a club member perspective in your response.
(FireProf, thanks for interesting gender oriented subject from your Topless Equality post.)
Absolute Naturists arrow Topless Equalty

SunBunny

Posted: Oct 28, 2011

I think I would have to agree Fire Prof, I did get your point but it is a point that falls on deaf ears for the most part. A woman's breasts are still sexualized by men and it carries into the laws which have for centuries has been determined by men. This is not man bashing, it is fact so don't get your panties in a bunch. There are men on this site that fantasize and sexualize a woman's breasts.

Another fact is, if an individual feels the need to change their gender, they also must accept the role and laws that are applied to that gender. Sad, but still true... it is The Law! (This does bring up a another good question to post for nudists, thanks!)

As far as a husbands breasts being larger than his wifes, well that is a classic case of where size does not matter when it comes to sexually based discrimination. Title VII aims to stop sex discrimanation in the workplace, but our daily living lives, where we spend the majority of our time, is still fair game for discrimination. This is plain stupid. It is an area that will continually be "gray" until we desexualize breasts everywhere and in every medium. Lawmakers and religious systems, that usually influence lawmakers, specifically need to quit this BS.
Absolute Naturists arrow What Characteristics Should A Nudist Posses?

SunBunny

Posted: Oct 28, 2011

The question is: What Characteristics Should A Nudist Posses?

This question was posted by a Absolute Naturist group member in a differest post. He said: "We are nothing more than the much maligned " special interest group". Except for our belief that being nude is sometimes preferable to wearing clothes, we don't have very much in common. We can't even agree on what charactistics a nudist should possess.".

Your answer and thoughts please?
Absolute Naturists arrow Home Nudists: Walking the Talk

SunBunny

Posted: Oct 28, 2011

It is not a matter of semantics... it is a matter of where your head and belief system is at. It is a difficult subject but only because very few of us live it and believe it without hiding or shame. I still find it absolutely insane when I encounter persons who seasonally reside at nudist resorts/club but don't want family or friends to know back at their home towns. This is INSANE. Why do the feel the need to hide, do they internally think it is wrong? When it comes to home nudists, some of the conversations almost seem like they are living out a sexually based fantasy, like walking out to the mailbox with the robe open or walking in front of the living room window nude. That's flashing people, not social nudism... get a clue.
As far as common characteristics, are there any... really, I mean really really? I don't think so but let's ask the question.

Again, this group is for people who understand and desire to live a nude life... because they belive it is beneficial to their well being and they are not ashamed of it in any way. Most on here are still in discovery phase to be polite. Just look at the number of responses on "Are You an Absolute Naturist?" post. Far lower than the actual 600+ members of the group. Go figure.
Absolute Naturists arrow NCH Friends & Friend Requests

SunBunny

Posted: Oct 20, 2011

What do you see as the point or purpose of "Friends" here on NCH? What value do you derive in this "Facebook" like format on NCH? Do you network with these "Friends"? Let's talk...
Absolute Naturists arrow Top 10 Best Nudist Clubs/Resorts/Beaches

SunBunny

Posted: Oct 17, 2011

I wanted to bring this up to the surface again, only because many of you have had the opportunity to visit new places or had new experiences with social nudity and nudist places. We also have many new members since this was first posted and their input would be appreciated, might give some of us new ideas for new things to do.
Update us please....
Absolute Naturists arrow Talking to the Wall...

SunBunny

Posted: Oct 17, 2011

...is exactly what I feel I am doing when the SAME people keep asking me SAME questions about nudist recreation or living? Yet they continue to be the Wall, not gonna do it - not gonna try it - I am a Wall and I don't move so don't even try to change me.
So what is the point of continuing to answer their SAME questions about social nudity or nudist clubs?
Your thoughts please.
Absolute Naturists arrow Should Nudist Club/Resort Office Staff Be Nude

SunBunny

Posted: Oct 12, 2011

Should the Office Staff at Nudist Clubs & Resorts be nude or not while working? Does it make a difference if it is a clothing-optional club/resort?
The subject arose in a different topic but seems like maybe a good topic for discusssion. What are your thoughts?
Absolute Naturists arrow All The Time Or Just On Sunny Days?

SunBunny

Posted: Oct 11, 2011

It has always puzzled me why someone would go to a nudist resort or a nudist beach and stayed clothed and still claim to be a nudist. It defies logic, but yet it happens. It does pose a certain amount of discomfort to those who are nude, especially women, and that is wrong and disrepectful to the nudists, but yet it still happens. I use to get all hot and bothered about it but then I managed to get above it and take a stance that I was not going to let them upset my nude time so I will ignore them. If they engage me in a disscussion or debate about it I will tell them exactly how I feel and hold no punches. So far they have never engage in a debate with me. I think they have issues with nudity and are disrectful people... not my problem, I will continue to do what makes me happy.
Absolute Naturists arrow Nudists Offended with Nudity... huh?

SunBunny

Posted: Oct 9, 2011

Good point Armadillo. I have first hand experience with encountering these same type of textiles in nudist resorts. For those of us secure in our nudist living, we just simply said to the textiles by our actions "you are on our turf now so you play by our rules just as we have to do in yours". If they find it offensive they can leave, simple as that. We do not find our nudity offensive. A nudist who says they do not want to offend others is really more just saying I am insecure and/or not accepting of being a nudist. One foot in, one foot out.
Absolute Naturists arrow All The Time Or Just On Sunny Days?

SunBunny

Posted: Oct 9, 2011

Bauhausnude, I would really prefer that the word "hate" never be used in any of our topics, it is an ugly word and one that I, as the group owner, never want directed or spoken of in relation to another human by any of our members no matter what your feelings. This applies to any topics by any member of this group. Your cooperation is appreciated in this regard.
***
Now the point of being an Absolute Nudist is NOT about being a hardcore nudist or nude 24/7 but rather the appreciation, enjoyment and the ability to live nude a you choose. Being nude 24/7 in a snow storm will not earn you a merit badge but probably will earn you an idiot badge and a visit to the ER for frostbite. The phrase Intelligent Nudity is often used at nudist resorts to describe their nude policy. Beaches don't have such policies so people should be free to do as they choose without judgement... and by the way they are usually signed as clothing optional beaches for a reason.

I live in nudist communities and have the ability to be nude 24/7 within the confines, and I am nude intelligently, as are all the other nudists who also live there. It is not about windows open or backyards or visits to a beach... we live there 24/7 because we desire to live nude as we choose. None of us feel like we have to prove to anybody that we are nudists, we know who and what we are. We feel we are closer to the main goal "true nudists" seek of living and being nude as we please and where we please. We don't feel the need to judge others on when or how much they choose to be nude. We certainly don't "hate" people who are not nude 24/7, rather we are supportive of their desire and appreciation of social nudity. If you feel you have to "hate" somebody for not being as nude as you are in your "home" or at a "clothing optional" beach, seems like more of a mark of insecurity in your nudity rather than being a Absolute Nudist.
Absolute Naturists arrow Wake Up! Some people don't like nudists...

SunBunny

Posted: Oct 8, 2011

How aware are we in relation to the anti-nudity words and opinions being spoken? What do we do when we hear them? What should we do when we hear them?
In a recent article the Florida Suwannee Democrat publication (http://suwanneedemocrat.com/jasper/x1402469184/UPDATE-Nudist-resort-in-the-works-near-White-Springs) about a new Nudist Resort, there was significant negative speak about it. Here is what one County Commissioner said:
“I don't think it's appropriate for this community,” he said. “Even though it's in Columbia County on the Suwannee River, I believe it will adversely affect the Town of White Springs, the state park (Stephen Foster) and tourism.”
“... a lot of people won't come to the park or to White Springs because of the presence of a nudist resort so close to the town.”
“It degrades society, it degrades our morals that all our forefathers brought here to this country,..."
As I titled my topic, Wake Up!.. Maybe we should keep this other side of opinion in our forefront of thinking. Let me restate the question:
How aware are we in relation to the anti-nudity words and opinions being spoken? What do we do when we hear them? What should we do when we hear them?
Absolute Naturists arrow Butt / Genital Covers: Should it be Required

SunBunny

Posted: Oct 8, 2011

TommyGunn, If I may be a little silly... this issue is focused in the Castro District of SF so you may want to be concerned where the butts have been. LOL. Sorry folks, I couldn't resist.

I was recently speaking with a person somewhat knowledgeable of the issue and he was saying that it was unfortunate that nudists would probably get lumped into this because these folks that it is aimed at are not nudists and don't give a hoot about nudist etiquette. He was also saying that the public nudity display was mainly in the gay areas and not really anywhere else in the city. He had his doubts if it would be so tolerated if it was prevelant in the tourist areas or upper crust areas of the city. Something to think about, hmmmm.
Absolute Naturists arrow Road Blocks to Public Nudity

SunBunny

Posted: Oct 8, 2011

If you are an AANR member and receive the monthly publication - The Bulletin - this would be a perfect opportunity to share it with them. AANR always encourages readers to share it with others after they are done reading it instead of throwing it away or burying it with other publications.
What you did Cent was a perfect way to introduce nude recreation to people, good for you. This is a little off topic but I think a good example how simple can eiminate misinformation that causes roadblocks.
Anybody else had an opportunity like this?
Absolute Naturists arrow Butt / Genital Covers: Should it be Required

SunBunny

Posted: Oct 6, 2011

A blueprint is nothing more than a map of a known experience that provides a graphic for others to follow and build upon. San Francisco could be that to the people who would like to see public or social nudity and an end to the conversation to those who say it will never happen. Yes there will be stumbling blocks, changes, modifications, collaborations and learning experiences from which we can build a better model. That is good and we should all support any effort in that direction.

I have never known change to come from complacency, no matter what it is. If we ever want to experience a time when public and social nudity will be accepted and legal as in SF, every nudist, no matter to what extent, will have to be willing to step up to the plate in whatever way they can to make it happen. To hide or continue be secretive only serves to say by the actions that social nudity is wrong and should be illegal... so either get on the bus or get off. Bill, I am glad you and I are on the same page.
Absolute Naturists arrow Butt / Genital Covers: Should it be Required

SunBunny

Posted: Oct 6, 2011

Dang Smokey, you and I are definitely on the same thought path. I was just getting ready to have some dsicussion with the AANR people in Florida and the TNS folks to see what theya are thinking.
If SF can make it work, it will be a good blueprint for others who are willing to try it. Once again it appears it is the Gay Community who has pushed the envelope and made a change. Some will view that ss good, some will view that as bad. Personally, I salute them for this. Anybody else have a thought?
Absolute Naturists arrow Uninvited Photography of Nudists

SunBunny

Posted: Oct 6, 2011

Thank you Smokey for a very good sumation. I do keep some crime scene tape around just in case.
This discussion has been a very good example of how I envisioned when I said honest and challenging discussions are welcomed. I honestly believe that if we can have spirited discussions like this, all walk away, wipe and off the blood, and have a gained persective or insight into a particular subject that allows us to grow in our thinking then we are all better for it. We should be open to that because it means we are open to change and not stuck in life. Really in the end, as I have surmized from ALL the discussions on Absolute, we all want the same things... to live and let live, to respect and be respected, to have happiness in our lives and finally, to be free to choose how we want to dress or not dress without any repercussions. Of all that, respect and happiness are always on my front burners.
Thank you all for your willingness to speak your minds and put forth your beliefs. That is what freedom is about. Also thank all of you for continuing to make Absolute one of the most successful and active groups on NCH. Now lets all go find that bar Smokey is talking about and have a toast to our contined success and friendship. Cheers!
Absolute Naturists arrow Uninvited Photography of Nudists

SunBunny

Posted: Oct 4, 2011

Gaijin...I think you totally missed the point of that example, But if it did happen I would not be so stupid as to just sit and say... well gee it is a free society, c'mon get real please.

Bill, How would you know how a woman would be harmed or not... remember your a guy and you would smile and pose and hence ENCOURAGE that behavior. That doesn't do anybody any good and is very irresponsible and MOST Nudists I know would agree. Harm comes in many different forms, and I DO NOT HIDE so don't even go down that path. YES I WAS HARMED, don't even go down that path either and guess what, you can't sue anybody if they take it down, forget about any apology, but by then the damage is done and it is on a dozen other porn sites. Maybe you would like to be on a porn or gay website site... not sure, but good luck if you do.

Special Note from SunBunny: I retract and apologize to BillBowser for applying what Armadillo said about posing for the cameras to him on this post. That comment should have been directed to Armadillo and is.
Absolute Naturists arrow Uninvited Photography of Nudists

SunBunny

Posted: Oct 4, 2011

Let me give you a few of my thoughts:
1)I am at a clothing optional beach with my two grandchildren, they are enjoying running in and out of the water as little kids do and they are nude, a guy comes up and start taking pictures of them with a big close-up lens... is that ok because it is a "Free Society" and "Public Space"?;
2) Those of you who have no problem being photographed nude without your permission by strangers... One day you see your picture on the side of a bus in a major metropolitan area with the caption "He has AIDS but still enjoys the sunshine."... is that ok by you becaused it is a "Free Society" and your picture was taken in a "Public Space"?;
I can keep givng more scenarios but let's be honest... it is Just Plain Wrong and a violation of a persons civil liberties to commit such an act. People who take these uninvited pictures are Pervs and Scum in my opinion. Also,if you really think you live in a "Free Society" you don't have a clue where you live or what living is all about.

I have been the victim of having my picture stolen on the internet and used on porn sites and let me tell you, It Is NOT OK and It Is WRONG... obviously you have never had that happen to you.
Absolute Naturists arrow Does the Enjoyment of Nudity Make You a Nudist?

SunBunny

Posted: Oct 2, 2011

Does the simple act of enjoying self nudity, be it private or social, make or define a person as a Nudist?
Your thoughts please....

(Thanks to FireProf for the post on a different Topic that raised this question in my thinking.)
Absolute Naturists arrow Introduce Yourself

SunBunny

Posted: Oct 1, 2011

First of all thanks and hugs to all of you who have expressed your appreciation to me on how I keep this group active. Seems like not a day go's by that I have new requests for membership to our quickly growing group and I truly appreciate yor desire to join in on the many conversations we have.
I would like to once again invite all you new members to say a few words about yourselves and or your reasoning for joining AN and NCH.
Don't be shy, please become a active member of Absolute Naturists. We look forward to hearing from you. Thanks! SB
Absolute Naturists arrow How Do You View Clothing?

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 28, 2011

Simple question.... How do you view clothing (not as in look at it)?

For me, I view clothing as decorative or as body adornement, like a necklace would be. Color draping can enhance the beauty of the human body without taking away the naturalness of nudity, much like what I do with my sarongs (see my pictures). I don't see clothes as neccessary unless they are needed for protection from the elemnts of work or nature.

What do you think?
Absolute Naturists arrow If Nudity was Legal, Would it Become Commonplace?

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 28, 2011

I don't think it would become commonplace, just more relaxed as it is currently in countries where nudity is more accepted. If anything it would give us the opportunity to separate social nudity from lewd behavior more clearly.
Absolute Naturists arrow Butt / Genital Covers: Should it be Required

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 27, 2011

As I eluded to previously and in step with Polo and Brian... I would gladly submit to sitting on a towel or covering up in accordance with a food establishments policy if the trade off is the ability to be nude anywhere in the City. Not sure I would move to SF but I think SF can be be a good experience benchmark for other communities to follow. Interesting that it is the gay community to once again lead the charge and challenge to societal norms. I appreciate them for doing this.
Absolute Naturists arrow If Nudity was Legal, Would it Become Commonplace?

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 27, 2011

If social and public nudity were legal, would it become commonplace?
I read a on-going court case in Canada and the following excerpt led me to this question for you:
"While decriminalizing mere nudity is an important principle, it is unlikely to lead to any significant changes in Canada. Fifteen years after Gwen Jacob won the right for women to be topfree in Ontario, it is still almost non-existant anywhere. Similarly, it is highly unlikely that nudity would become commonplace if it was decriminalized. The social pressure to conform is just too great for most people.

What are your thoughts?

Absolute Naturists arrow Escaping the Closet

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 27, 2011

Hey Lux,
glad you finally got down to the nuts and bolts of her thinking. In the psyc world these are sometimes referred to as break-thrus. This may be the perfect time to share some of The Naturist Society or ANNR publications with her. Even the some of the "womens stories" might assist her in putting social nudity in the perspective that we nudists think of it. View it as an opportunity.
Absolute Naturists arrow Topless Equalty

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 27, 2011

Yep, I sadly can't bicker with that theory either, they have bought me lots of drinks in the past. It is shallow, no doubt, but it was fun then.
But this is what aligns sex with nudity. "Tittie Bars" are all about sexual stimulation. Some of the recent pics posted on NCH displaying young sexy and perky females are continously "Most Popular"... and my point was! Is there a wonder why some of us older and gravity challenged women would even consider placing a pic on here? Seems like our egos are our worst enemies. Can we ever get beyound that? That question applies to both men and women.
PS - Applause for you women who are confident with your life and bodies and are not afraid to display your bodies with love and human grace at any age here on NCH. I am proud to be in your company.
NorthWest Outdoor Nudists arrow AANR-NW Fall Board Meeting at LARC

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 27, 2011

Sept 30 through Oct 2 LARC is hosting the AANR-NW Fall Board Meeting.
Besides all the meeting stuff there is Brekfast/lunch/dinner available and a great Classic Rock Dance Saturday Night.
Go to LARC website for detail or call them up.
I will be the DJ on Saturday night so come out and enjoy. Can you make it?
Absolute Naturists arrow Topless Equalty

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 24, 2011

Detach, your right almost... only two women have responded to this topic. AZlagoon and me, geeez, c'mon ladies. Maybe this does speak to the apathy or just plain disinterest in the subject by women. Could this be a negatve body image type thing, like if they aren't perky I am keping them covered? Is it still to aligned with womens rights and burn the bra protests of the 60's? Did Victoria Secrets do a number on our thought proces? If men were to wear bikini tops over their man boobs would the women get angry and think they were making mock of them? This is all kinda crazy. What's the real deal here? I would really like to hear from a few more ladies on this subject. Guys can you please ask the women in your lives and let us know how they feel about this? This is interesting, Thanks.
Absolute Naturists arrow Challenges to Managing a Nudist Resort / Club

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 24, 2011

What do you think would be some of the challenges to operating/managing a nudist resort/club?
Absolute Naturists arrow Topless Equalty

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 23, 2011

Jaybird,
I would quote you in front of a judge but somehow I don't think it will work.
Why are we talking about this... because women DO NOT have the legal right to be top free in public, thats why. I hear what you are saying, and I am more than supportive of the right, BUT we are not there and until we are we need to keep this type of inequality in the forefront of our thinking to overcome it. Men's voices are as good as womens voices. Tell me, when was the last time you got out publicly and protested this inequity?
Absolute Naturists arrow Topless Equalty

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 21, 2011

Not sure about that Kilted...
I was kind thinking about walking by the frozen food section and getting a bit of a nipply reaction, brrrrrrr. lol, thanks for the post

Any other thoughts about this out there?
Absolute Naturists arrow Introduce Yourself

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 21, 2011

Almost every day we are getting new Absolute Naturists members to join us in the many discussions we have so..... New Members, please tell us a little something about yourselves and let's chat. I think you will find many great people with great experiences here on AN.

For those of you who have already introduced yourselves, thank you and I hope you are enjoying the diverse topics and discussions that we have going on here.

BTW, Everybody, do you realize that we have 573 Absolute Naturists members, the second highest membership level on all of Nudist Clubhouse -AND- the highest number of topics (156) and posts (2,590) on all of NCH. Good Job Everybody!
SB
Absolute Naturists arrow Topless Equalty

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 21, 2011

AZ, Soul searching and questioning our actions is always a good thing in my opinion. It means we are still thinking and alive. We all have biases, how and why we form them, who knows. When we do run up against on them, it seems like the perfect time to evaluate it and put it in it's proper place in our mindset. I do that all the time. I don't want to veer off the topic but maybe this could be an excellent topic for us nudists/naturist to consider. Thanks for your honest input.
Anyone else?????
Absolute Naturists arrow Topless Equalty

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 20, 2011

I ran across a poll about this in a New Jersey publication. I voted on it, YES of course, you may want to vote as well. Here is the website (it is ok, I checked it): http://www.nj.com/hudson/voices/index.ssf/2011/09/daily_poll_should_women_be_per.html
Absolute Naturists arrow Improving Your Life... Any Suggestions?

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 19, 2011

Can you please share with all our readers one thing you have done that has improved your life in a very positive manner?
Let's face it, we can all use an outside voice in this department to maybe get us on a better or different path towards improving our lives. This does not have to be in relationship to nudism, for in the end we all all just people wanting to live a good life. Your experienced suggestions please.
Absolute Naturists arrow nude cam problem

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 18, 2011

Alex,
Andy is correct. Sounds like this guy is into sex and not social nudity. Unfortunately you will encounter that on nudist sites on the internet and on many chat groups.
Glad we could help. There are lots of people with good experience in the social nudist arena on this group so never worry about asking a question like this, we will probably have all the answers you need. take care,
SB
Absolute Naturists arrow 2012 NCH Bare-2-Breakers Contigent

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 15, 2011

Would you be interested in joining fellow NCH members on forming a NCH Contingent for the 2012 Bare-2-Breakers walk/run event in San Francisoc on May 20, 2012?

--> I will be there, so I am in!

Maybe we could even put together be a weekend NCH Meet up somewhere in the Bay Area if there is enough interest and we can talk Brian (NCH Owner into it. Your thoughts/interest please.
Absolute Naturists arrow Bare to Breakers

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 15, 2011

It is actually a run or walk sort of thing... I am walking myself. Totally understand what you are saying, they always need helping hands and supporters are appreciated for sure... thanks Smokey.
That's 3 persons for our NCH Contigent, maybe I sure start a new topic.
Absolute Naturists arrow Bare to Breakers

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 15, 2011

May 20, 2012 is the next B-2-B Event in San Francisco, CA. I am planning on being there and participting. It will be fun.
Would any of you be interested in getting together an contingent from NCH to go. If so maybe we can talk Brian into starting something up.
Go to their website for details.
Absolute Naturists arrow Topless Equalty

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 15, 2011

WTF!! .... I like that, it's how I have always thought about this type of inequity. I kind of figured most of you would be supportive but have any of you strongly encouraged and supported the women in your lives to go topless, even around your own house or yard. Maybe it is this type of encouragement that would help them get over the body issues or years of negative teachings.
Absolute Naturists arrow Butt / Genital Covers: Should it be Required

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 15, 2011

I think this SF legislation all stems from a place many of us are not really in tune to... the Castro district of SF. The people who are nude are for the most part not nudists, just gay guys wanting to be naked. They would probably never venture into a nudist venue, it is not their thing. This is another case where "real" (you know what I mean so c'mom) nudists get a slap in public because of the naked peoples actions. I don't know of any nudists who would have a problem carrying or sitting on a towel. It is what we do. As far as the resturant, I have no problem with a genital/butt covering wrap of some sort. My husband has a "man wrap" which he can quickly wrap around himself when appropriate. Let's be honest, I have seen some guys who the close and upfront table high sight of their genitals, for whatever reasons, would make me loose my appetite. This is especially the case if they happen to bend over or stand in the aisle way just inches from to me. Actually I have seen some women who when bent over could also fall in this same category. For the opportunity to be essentially nude all the time, I don't think it is such a big price to pay. But then again this legislation is more about being the naked person in the Castro District of SF, not a social nudist who understands nude etiquette.
Absolute Naturists arrow Butt / Genital Covers: Should it be Required

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 14, 2011

What are your thoughts on requiring or mandateing some sort of butt covers for sitting on when nude in a public place or covering of genitals in public eating areas?

San Francisco, known for tolerance and where public nudity is not illegal, has introduced legislation that would require nude persons to carry towels or other covers to sit on when in public places and to cover their genitals when entering resturants. What do you think?
Absolute Naturists arrow Topless Equalty

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 13, 2011

Isn't it More Important to have the legal and social ability and the CHOICE to go topfree for women....
What we choose to do or is up to the individual, like being nude. If it was legal, you could have the choice to be nude or not. Topfree may well be a step in that direction, at least here in the US.
Absolute Naturists arrow Where do I start.

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 13, 2011

You can start by completing you profile so we know a little more about you AND writing a post in the Introduce Yourself topic. That is what it is for.
There are people in this group with good knowledge and are always willing to lend a thought.
SB
Absolute Naturists arrow Topless Equalty

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 13, 2011

alexx...
So you think a nude woman would be less sexually stimulating then a bare breast?

This my friend is exactly what I hope this group will help you overcome from your country's conservative teachings and sexual suppressions: social nudity is not open sexuality. I believe you ae on the right track so far.

You are a courageous person and I appreciate all you have to say. Thanks for being part of our group and offering your honest viewpoints. It is good for all of us to read this.
Absolute Naturists arrow Nudist B&B's

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 13, 2011

AZLagoon, thanks for the post, I was hoping you would chime in on this topic.
What AZ said...
"I've always felt that public beaches and big resorts are a bit too intimidating for a first-timer...especially the ladies. We try to set an environment for new nudists to move at their pace and take the burden off of the spouse/significant other to lead them to the water, so to speak."
... has always been my exact thinking as a perfect way to introduce a reluctant spouse or partner to social nudity. I have been to a number of resorts and yes the people for the most part are friendly and accepting, but it is still intimidating to the first-timer, especially ladies.
I have never been to AZLagoon but it sounds and looks like what I hope all CO/Nudist B&B's should be like. Maybe some day we will have a chance to stay there on our way to or from Texas. I wish there were more CO/Nudist B&B's across the country.
Again, thanks AZLagoon.
Absolute Naturists arrow Topless Equalty

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 12, 2011

I think Detach is on to something, but why are women reluctant. Maybe the body image issue has alot to do with that. Like if they aren't "perky" I don't want to expose them. Another thought is that the female breast is still viwed as erotic by many men, hence the staring or leering which is NOT a good feeling on the recieving end. Guys stare at my boobs all the time when I am dressed. I can only imagine that they would go ape shit if I took my top off, probably even want to take pictures. Maybe exposing them might eventually get us back to normal thinking on female breasts.
Absolute Naturists arrow Nudist B&B's

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 12, 2011

Have you ever been to a Nudist or CO Bed & Breakfast? What are your experiences? Do you think they are a good alternative to a resort/club for someone who is thinking about trying nudism?
Your thoughts on all or any question is appreciated.
Absolute Naturists arrow Topless Equalty

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 12, 2011

Do you think females should have the legal right to be topless(bare breasted)anywhere and anytime they choose(as males currently do)? What arguements (pro/con) could you provide for your view?
I know I may be speaking to the choir but discussion is always good. Your thoughts please.
Absolute Naturists arrow Nude Normal

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 8, 2011

What do you think about living "Nude Normal"?
I was intrigued by what Billyjoejimbob said in a post on another topic speaking about people in other countries...

"they don't really understand why somebody would want to be nude all the time. They also like their fashion and having nice things. So, I think overall it is just a different mindset. There is no need to be a "nudist" because doing things in the nude that make more sense in the nude are just normal to them".
Your thoughts?
(Thanks for the topic idea Billyjoejimbob.)
Absolute Naturists arrow Nudity in Foreign Countries

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 7, 2011

How is social nudity, family nudity, recreational nudity, nude living either viewed, dealt with or accepted in other countries outside the US?
I was intrigued by a recent post that related to this in another Topic. I think it would be interesting to hear first hand from persons who have had experiences with social nudity in other parts of the world, like Italy, Croatia, France, etc.. Please share.
Absolute Naturists arrow Family Nudists

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 7, 2011

I hear the same things many times from "nudists" when children are around. I think FireProf is absolutely correct with the thought that they still associate social or recreational nudity with sex and therefore it is illegal or wrong when children are around in their mindset. Consequently, they probably relate this to others they meet, how sad.
This is where I draw a line between nudists and people who like to be naked, and I am not judging, but I do think there is a BIG difference.
Absolute Naturists arrow Winter Nude Plans

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 7, 2011

As usual, we will be heading for Natures Resort in South Texas (Rio Grande Valley). Yes we are Winter Texans. We will spend 6 months or so playing water volleyball, going on bike rides, eating tamales and good BBQ, and enjoying the warm weather with our friends there. That's it!
Come down and visit Natures Resort this winter if you can.
Absolute Naturists arrow Introduce Yourself

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 6, 2011

I was thinking it was a good idea and probably long overdue for all the new members, and even some not so new but unknown to most, to give a brief intro about themselves and let us all get to know you little better.
Seems like almost everyday I get requests from persons to join Absolute Naturists and I am sure there are some interesting people with enlightening experiences on here. Please share however you like, thank you.
SB
Absolute Naturists arrow Winter Nude Plans

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 6, 2011

What are your nudist plans or thoughts for the rapidly approaching WINTER (Brrrrr)?
Absolute Naturists arrow Family Nudists

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 1, 2011

What are your thoughts when you see a family enjoying social nudity or nude recreation?

I belong to another NCH group, Family Nudists, not because I currently have a family with little ones in tow, but because I am very supportive of families enjoying social nudity. As I peruse the topics on that group, if I can ever lend a thought or experience, I do. For me, everytime I see a family enjoying nude recreation it brings a smile to my face. It puts life in a very natural perspective. We nudists get so use to being around only adults, or worse yet demanding that resorts not allow children because "we old folks" don't want to be bothered with children, that we tend to get removed from the normalality of nudity and view it as only an adult activity. I remember once I went to a resort in Southern California and really got a chuckle. In the pool, where most people were at, there were kids squealing and shooting squirt guns at each other, the parents huddled in groups chatting with each other, and some older couples doing water exercises... all in the same pool. It was great. Not sure what they thought of it but I enjoyed the experinecing the balance of it all.
I really encourage all of you to involve your familys in social nudity and encourage friends and neighbors with familys to do the same. Don't discourage it at your clubs or resorts. It brings a more naturalness to nudity. Please share your thoughts or experiences.
Absolute Naturists arrow Uninvited Photography of Nudists

SunBunny

Posted: Sep 1, 2011

What can we do, as nudists, to stop the taking of univited photos of us at resorts, beaches or other places we may enjoy being nude?
As we all know, this continues to be a problem and many times these photos end up on the internet. It is not always just the hot babes either. It is our children, our mothers, our sisters who are just enjoying themselves naturally. I have even heard of men being photographed and their picture ending up on gay websites. Besides being an extreme invasion of our privacy, it can obviously cause endless harm to our personal lives. It is even a deterent to people who would like to try social nudity. Your thoughts, experiences or actions please.
Absolute Naturists arrow Spreading the Nude View

SunBunny

Posted: Aug 30, 2011

Social Nudity is very misunderstood by the masses. However there seems to be a growing curiosity and willingness by non-nudist's to try it.
On another topic, "Talking Nude Quietly", I noted a real willingness by many of you to take a leadership role in getting the word out, even through quiet means. Using that as a stepping stone, what ideas or actions do you think we can do to take it a bit further and continue to educate and introduce the curious to the Nude View? Creativity is always welcomed.
Absolute Naturists arrow How To: Talk Nude Quietly

SunBunny

Posted: Aug 30, 2011

Good Job! Maybe more of us can do something like this. Basically a broadcasted invitation to join you at a AANR affiliated nudist club. Facebook could work easily for this also. Let us know how it works for you.
Texas Nudists and Resorts arrow Understanding Nudity Laws in Texas

SunBunny

Posted: Aug 30, 2011

Great! Let us know what they have to say. It is always good to hear it from a law enforcement standpoint. I agree with you, there is still murkiness within the laws. Maybe we can get a coalition of Texas folks to team up with the TNS Action team to try to clean up the murkiness. What say y'all?
Absolute Naturists arrow The BEST thing about being a Nudist?

SunBunny

Posted: Aug 28, 2011

Never having to do much laundry for sure! I hate doing laundry so that is the best for me.
oh, one more... and probably much bigger in the whole scheme of things. Meeting other nudists for the first time, everbody totally nude, there just is always an instant kinship and friendship without any pretentiousness based on clothing. There just are no false barriers. It is so nice to be real.
Absolute Naturists arrow The BEST thing about being a Nudist?

SunBunny

Posted: Aug 27, 2011

What do you think the Best Thing is about being a Nudist? Give some practical examples if you can from your standpoint?
Absolute Naturists arrow Talk about your Nude Summer

SunBunny

Posted: Aug 26, 2011

Tell us about what you did this summer in regards to nudity. Did you visit clubs? Go to a nude beach? Meet new nudist freinds? Take a nude vacation? Get a great all over tan? What- what -what did you do? Summer is coming to a close and it is alwasy gooe to recap on the nude fun we had and how your lives would maybe enrichened by nudity. Please share....
Absolute Naturists arrow Bodypainting

SunBunny

Posted: Aug 8, 2011

I am totally fine with body painting. While it may be a bit on the side of exhibitionism, so what... have some fun and live life. I would like to do Fantasy Fest sometime. Maybe Deb can share some insights to Fantasy Fest.
BTW, still out cruising on the British Candian waters and enjoying myself. Just have internet for a day or so, it is pretty remote but lots of sunshine and plenty of nude time on the water. Thanks to FireProf for minding the Fort for me while I am out. Be back soon folks... until then keep on posting!
Absolute Naturists arrow can nudity sell clothes?

SunBunny

Posted: Jul 11, 2011

In this context, yes. Sex sells. I think the articles very first line says it all: "If sex sells, then nudity cannot be far behind". Once again the reinforcement and understanding by the clothed world that nudity and sex are the same. I find it offensive and demeaning as a nudist.
I think it would have been far better (and just as alluring) for the ad company to go to nude resorts and get nudist to say things like "I shop for all my clothes at Zappos" or "I love to dress up with Zappos".
Thanks for posting this, I think I will write to AANR about it.
Absolute Naturists arrow Social nudity and gender equality

SunBunny

Posted: Jul 11, 2011

Gy, please correct me if I am wrong but I believe the question (topic) within your statement for group members to respond to is:
Is there a difference in your communication patterns with the opposite sex when they are nude verses when they are clothed?
This question is for both men and women to answer.
Absolute Naturists arrow National NUDE Donut Day

SunBunny

Posted: Jul 11, 2011

No worries, we will do it again... and probably before the next real National Donut Day. I like nude donuts, what can I say.
Anybody have any date suggestions for the declaration of the next Nude Donut Day?
Absolute Naturists arrow Naturism as a Philosphy - Nudism is Not

SunBunny

Posted: Jul 11, 2011

To me, being a nudist is the desire, willingness, and appreciation of just being nude. A naturist, while the nude part applys equally, involves a greater appreciation of being nude in harmony with nature. It is a deeper caring for the environments within which we live and with a desire to preserve. I think this is where it becomes more of a philosphy of living than being a nudist and going to a resort/club or your backyard.
Absolute Naturists arrow Are you an Absolute Naturist?

SunBunny

Posted: Jul 9, 2011

I just brought the Nude Cruise topic to the surface again. It is a good and informative topic but unfortunately got buried. Can we talk about nude cruises there and get this one back on topic please.
Absolute Naturists arrow Nude Cruises

SunBunny

Posted: Jul 9, 2011

We have not been on a nude cruise yet, although we are planning on going on the BIG SHIP cruise in 2013 just to experience it with that many people. The main reason we have been reluctant is that you have to be dressed so much. Dinners, in port, off ship, breakfast, etc.. Seem like nudity is an accomodation rather than an norm. Also there is no mandate to nude so it seems like it is the perfect opportunity for pictures to be taken by non-nudists and gawking.
NOTE: I thought it might be a good idea to bring this back up to the top again since there has been conversation on nude cruises. Maybe we can share experiences on any cruises you have been on, nude or not, to get a sense of what it is like.
SB
Absolute Naturists arrow Nude Recreation Week - Celebration Plans

SunBunny

Posted: Jul 8, 2011

As soon as the NCH approves my recent pictures, you can see what it is like here in Parks Bay, WA. This is the perfect way to enjoy Nude Week. Floating on the boat enjoying the sunshine with friends... totally nude in the fresh air.
Absolute Naturists arrow Most Fun Nude Moment This Summer

SunBunny

Posted: Jul 8, 2011

For me it was fun but probably more silly...
we had a BBQ Contest at LARC and I was eating some ribs drenched with delicious bbq sauce. I was really enjoying them, so much so that when I looked down and had bbq sauce all over my boobs (I was nude of course). Needless to say, I had more than enough willing helpers to clean me up...it was funny.
Absolute Naturists arrow Most Fun Nude Moment This Summer

SunBunny

Posted: Jul 8, 2011

So far this summer, what has been your most fun moment while you have been nude?
Absolute Naturists arrow Naturism as a Philosphy - Nudism is Not

SunBunny

Posted: Jul 8, 2011

I just read an article that talked about being a Naturist was a philosphy and being a nudist was just an action. What do you think?
Nude Boating arrow New Boating Club in the NW

SunBunny

Posted: Jul 8, 2011

The NorthWest Naturist Boating Club is on a club cruise in Parks Bay, WA. This a a quiet bay located in the San Juan Islands of the Pacific Northwest that is perfect for nude enjoyment. It hase been a beautiful and fun time.
Nude Boating arrow Nude Boating Flag

SunBunny

Posted: Jul 8, 2011

I have posted a picture of me and the burgee. Check it out.
We are on the hook here at Parks Bay on Shaw Island, WA. It is located in the San Juan Islands and a perfect place to be nude on the boat. There are additional pics of this too.

Fireprof: We are in the process of aquiring it, let you know when it becomes available.
Absolute Naturists arrow Nude Recreation Week - Celebration Plans

SunBunny

Posted: Jul 5, 2011

Hey Capt, it is the only way to really feel where the wind is...enjoy yourself. I love sailing.

We will be getting off the dock early and heading out to a nice bay here in the San Juan Islands and meeting up with some friends from our nudist boating club. A 4-day boat cruise, very nude, very natural. As soon as we are off the dock, the clothes come off too.
Texas Nudists and Resorts arrow Favorite Resort

SunBunny

Posted: Jul 5, 2011

Did y'all hear that Natures Resort finally completed the new expansion. I have heard that they are filling up pretty fast. You can see them on their website. BTW, people are coming over from Sandpipers. I still think NR is the better of the two in the Rio Grande Valley.
Absolute Naturists arrow Nude Recreation Week - Celebration Plans

SunBunny

Posted: Jul 5, 2011

Kicked it off on the 3rd with a nude Fireworks show at LARC; Saw another Big Fireworks show over Bellingham Bay on the 4th while Nude on the Boat; Nude Cruising on the boat from the 6th to the 10th all around the San Juan Islands; yep that's about it.
Most clubs/resorts have activities and open houses at this time so it is the perfect opportunity for you guys to take your "not so sure about this" wife's to one of the activities.
Absolute Naturists arrow Are Nudists/Naturists Cool People?

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 29, 2011

dkk.. see the topic "I like to use the term "naked" over nude..". Good stuff. Maybe you can add a thought to it (others too).
SB

BTW, Let try to keep this thread on topic please. It is a good one and I hate to see it innocently HiJacked. Thanks.
Absolute Naturists arrow YOUR Nude Quote of the Day

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 29, 2011

"Sometimes it is better to ignore the stupidity of pettiness than to respond to the pettiness of stupidity."
SB
Northwest Nudists arrow 4th of July weekend at LARC

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 29, 2011

LARC has lots of things going on this coming weekend. BBQ Contest with some good eating afterwards, games, karaoke, fireworks...and freindly people at a beautiful park. I have to say that the park is looking better than ever beore. I will be there and I can introduce you to new friends. Everyone is invited and a free day pass on your first visit, just ask at the office. Leave a note here if I might see you.
Absolute Naturists arrow Are Nudists/Naturists Cool People?

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 29, 2011

In all my experiences, I would say that Nudists are no different on the Cool Scale as the Textiles... they just prefer to be nude and some prefer to be naked (yes there is a difference). I think sometimes people are lulled into thinking all nudist are cool because you usually encounter them in only recreational settings where people are laughing, having fun and being social. Take them out of that environment and they turn back into their trueselves... some nice, some social, some friendly, some funny, some showboats, some arrogant, some judgemental, some racist, some just complete buttheads. If you watch close, you will see those traits pop out every now and then at the clubs/resorts (as some of you have).
The one caveat to this are the Naturists. For the most part they are the tree hugging, moss kissing, greenies of the nude living world and I mean this in a good way. They respect and are passionate about the connection between life and earth. I have always found them more open and accepting of lifes variables. You usually will not find them at a nudist resort.
Absolute Naturists arrow Are Nudists/Naturists Cool People?

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 28, 2011

Are nudists/naturist cool people? Everyone seems to think that the people at nude resorts are totally cool and open minded people just about everything. What do you think?
(thanks Detach, your rant is the basis of this topic)
Absolute Naturists arrow Nude Recreation Week - Celebration Plans

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 28, 2011

How do you plan to celebrate Nude Recreation Week, July 4-10, 2011? Inviting friends to join you? It may be the perfect opportunity to introduce someone to social nudism... go for it!
Absolute Naturists arrow What is a non-nudist?

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 28, 2011

Gaijin, me militant....hmmm, maybe you just don't understand passion or want things to stay the way they are. I am a full supporter of nude recreation. Anybody that has read my topics and comments should get that. I am also a full supporter of peoples rights to live nude as long as they cause no physical harm to others. The mantra of the group is:
"For People that understand, support, and desire to live nude as nature intended."
To be real honest, we have a number of people in this group that are in the bleachers with no idea what game they are at. Maybe these are the "non-nudists" you speak of. What I try to do at least get everybody to think about nude living as a possibility. Why else are you here? I always welcome others to chime in on the process with their thoughts and experiences. Some thoughts, opinions, delivery styles, and positions are challenging to some because it calls for a radical (not militant) change in mindset,instilled values and moral beliefs. These are usually the ones that are the quickest to call such discussion militant or radical rather than just another opinion upon which to consider and respond should they so desire. It is easier to do. It does nothing for intellectual conversation or movement.
There is another part of the group descripton: "Honest and courageous discussions on social nudity welcomed."
As such Gaijin, I accept your words as opinion, to which I have chosen to repond without calling names or labeling. Thanks for your post.
Absolute Naturists arrow Are you an Absolute Naturist?

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 27, 2011

A simple yes or no is all I am asking. No excuses or rationals, no harm no foul. Just yes or no. Read the mantra and respond, thanks.

Me: Yes, Absolutely!
Absolute Naturists arrow What is an Absolute Naturist?

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 27, 2011

Until the day that you can "casually" go anywhere nude or clothed, a casual activist mindset is hogwash. It is to forgiving and open to compromise. I have heard, and continue to hear, tons of excuses and reasons why absolute nudism can't work from AN members. If that is what you believe, then it won't because you are not willing to try. Social nudity and nude living are not understood by the persons who need clothes and the laws that uphold their beliefs. The only way I know to change this is by constant education and demonstration, not compromise or casualness. Is getting arrested ok with you, no. Is getting cited and fined ok with you, no. Is loosing your job ok with you, no. Is having "friends" judge you ok, no. We need to either get on the bus or get off the bus, it is that simple. There is no such thing as kinda on the bus. Whether you want to accept it or not, the majority of the world is not nudist friendly or even tolerant. That is what I am trying to change and it is pretty tough when you have folks who say they are an absolute naturist saying you are wrong. Activism is about creating change. Living nude is not currently accepted and that is what we should be trying to change. Convince me that I am wrong.
Absolute Naturists arrow When Did Nudist Clubs Die?

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 19, 2011

Viewing the wonderful historical pictures in the ASA Days Group here on NCH provided me with the epiphany for this topic. There is one consistent theme throughout all the pictures, people are nude.

Here is my epiphany (please bear with me):
In the days of ASA, there were groups of people who enjoyed simple nudity in social settings. They played simple outdoor games, had potlucks and BBQ's, enjoyed swimming and sunbathing, and preferred the good company of other nudists. They did not have debates or rules about tattoos and piercings, they did not have discussions about shaving their pubic hair, they did not distinguish between the acceptability of children at club functions and the need to have adult only environments, they did not constantly complain about driving distances or membership fees, they did not include sex or swinging in their desire to enjoy their social nudity, they did not expect to be entertained nor was there an expectancy of upscale services, they did not wear erotic clothing nor have discussions about underwear verses outerwear, they did not feel a need to be exhibitionists on dance floors, they laughed and enjoyed each others company and appreciated the freedom and escape from their textile mandated lives, and best of all, they did not wear clothes at nudist clubs because they went to their nudist clubs to be nude. They joined nudist clubs, not resorts, for the sake of enjoying healthy nudity without mitigation and that was the direct value these clubs brought and provided for them. It was a simple time. It was a utopian nudist environment.

For whatever reasons, these clubs started to allow membership of persons who desired this utopian environment, claiming to be nudists, but that did not understand, appreciate or completely accept the simple concept and principles of social nudity. This is when these club's unwitted demise began to occur. The paradigm shift of the nudist mindset from having to wear clothes to wanting to wear clothes occurred and thrived. This is when, in my opinion, nudist clubs died.

Here is my reasoning. As the textile norms gained greater momentum at nudist clubs, the simple outdoor games fell by the wayside, the potlucks and BBQ's were replaced by restaurant type dining with bars, swimming and sunbathing gravitated to hot tubs and coconut oil tanning, and the preference for good company moved to exclusionary circles of cliques, heated debates and bias rules about tattoos and body or genital piercings commenced, shaving pubic hair became a focus and style, intolerance and strict guidelines were established for acceptance and inclusion of children, adult only environments became more of a norm, persons began to seek locations and venues that were more amenable to their acceptable driving distances and costs for entry or membership fees, clubs began allowing or turning an eye from sex or swinging from groups openly seeking such entertainment in their desire to enjoy their social nudity, an expectation of club entertainment became the norm with calendars of events determining attendance, the demand for more upscale services with resort like atmospheres was quickly replacing the simplicity of nudist clubs, wearing erotic clothing became a norm and many times a competition, discussions about the appropriateness of underwear as outerwear ensued, dance floors became hotbeds for sexually charged exhibition, public drunkenness, voyeurism and hidden cameras replaced the laughter and enjoyment each others company, the separation, freedom and escape from textile living became minimal, and worst of all, nudists began wearing clothes at nudist clubs with the expectation and demand for allowance regardless of the premise of nudist clubs being place to be nude. Grass root oriented nudist clubs were now being forced to compete with corporate based clothing optional resorts. The enjoyment of simple unmitigated healthy nudity and social interaction was no longer the primary focus of value for viability for continued existence.

What we are witnessing today in decreased membership and club closings is the direct result of what we have done to ourselves as nudists and we have no one to blame but ourselves. Can it be changed or reversed, perhaps, but only with consistent reorientation, acceptance, and enforcement of complete nudity at nudist venues. Will that occur, I doubt it. However I am willing to give it a try.
Absolute Naturists arrow When Did Nudist Clubs Die?

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 17, 2011

When did nudist clubs begin their demise? Why has membership waned? What was the cause? Can clubs be reversed to recapture the former wholesomeness of nudity as portayed by the ASA Days group posts? Your thoughts please.
Absolute Naturists arrow Underwear, Outerwear, and Swimwear

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 15, 2011

If revealing sexy swimwear (itsy bitsy bikinis, thongs and speedos) are consider outerwear and allowed to be worn almost anywear without prejudice, why is underwear that reveals the same or less and probably not nearly as sexy not acceptable and considered as outerwear? Why do nudists have a problem with underware and not swimwear? (not talking about in the pool and soap suds) Your thoughts please?
Absolute Naturists arrow Best youth friendly resort?

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 15, 2011

Chris, for the record, you were never "kicked off" the AN group and therefor you never had to be let back in. Weather you decide to stay or leave is up to you. You asked for advice and you got it. Nothing more to say.
SB

To fbh1, one of our newest AN group members: you have probably given the best advice and comments of any of us on this subject. I look forward to hearing much more from you in the future. Thankyou.
Absolute Naturists arrow How do you find Naturist Friends in Ct.

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 15, 2011

Yes, that would be my recommendation... SingleNudist.com.
You have to do a little sifting to see what works for you but there are more eligble women on there than men so go for it if you are sincere. The best thing of it is they are nudists so you don't have to do the convincing junk. My husband and I met on SingleNudist, since we were both nudists and had been previously married to non-nudists, and it has been great. I really appreciate Brian for starting that one. Good luck.
Absolute Naturists arrow Perv Bait Women

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 14, 2011

The original topic question was:
"When women post sexy teasing profiles with pictures that depict sexuality and not pure nuditity on sites like this, why are we so quick to bash the fellas for sexually driven responses?".
It was not about how the NCH site is managed or operated. I think the knee jerk negative response to men who make sexually suggestive comments or continually post crouch shots may be a result of this. The topic is intended to give another perspective or rational to these actions and I asked for others thoughts and opinions. Again this is not about NCH policy or management. Can we get back on topic please. I am hoping the information you provide will be very valuable to everyone.
Absolute Naturists arrow Best youth friendly resort?

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 14, 2011

I appreciate your opinion and yes opinions are welcomed on Absolute Naturists. There is nothing wrong with challenging an opinion and I do not think that equates to turning on someone or "kicking their ass". I simply asked tht he maybe consider changing his tone, said how the words were probably going to be received from my own experiences at clubs and I got blasted for it with no constructive thought. I am all for changing how things are at clubs in regards to age and activities. They need desparately to be changed, even at 58 years of age I get tired of it. I would really like to see this change as much as anyone else, but words and tone are important. That was my point. We have had very many spirited conversations like this and that is what makes this group interesting and thought provoking. It is not about siding, it is about discussing your point of view, correcting a misinterpreted discussion, or adding a new perspective to a discussion, or learning and moving on, and that is respected always. That was my point and still is my point. FireProf can speak to his side if he so chooses. Thanks for your thoughts.
Absolute Naturists arrow Perv Bait Women

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 14, 2011

Appreciate your reponse Brian and please understand my intentions were not to discredit NCH but rather to bring to focus a potential issue in the internet nudist community. I believe we are on the same page on most of what you said. My point is that these women hurt the female population of nudists... everywhere. I appreciate the women on NCH that enjoy positive social nudism and I wish there were more of them on here. But why are so many reluctant to be here, that is the point I was making and it is an issue that is discussed in this group many times. It is not about kicking anybody out for things they do at some resorts and clubs. Keepng women on this site who have not been logged in a very long time (2008 & 2009) with suggestive photos and blank profiles does not really help the cause. They are not nudists and you are not going to educate them. Maybe we should ask the few women on NCH what they think about it. I just said what I think about it. If I am wrong I will be the first to admit it and apologize for the assertion. I don't think I am and this is what hurts the nudist community. You have a tough job, I understand that, in fact in this group we all do. It would be nice to find some way to stem the influx of pervs and nudist fakers which really hurts the entire nudist community. Eliminating these female perv baits who's motivations are not all that altrusictic would be a good start. I really doubt you will find them at a nudist club/resort... probably more likely on Craigslist.
Absolute Naturists arrow Perv Bait Women

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 14, 2011

When women post sexy teasing profiles with pictures that depict sexuality and not pure nuditity on sites like this, why are we so quick to bash the fellas for sexually driven responses?
Look at: Beautiful, Modelchic, sexie_jamie, dietric, Lucy, leatherbinhell, Olga, fancynancy, Nela.voj,juliewilson, chernoibialo, rodrigomaciel, rachels15, toomuch, prager x2anthia... and others like it. I think it is curious that many of these have not been on in a very long time and never joined any groups. Yet the profiles continue and are even listed in the people to meet search. This is plain and simple perv bait and proves still that sex sells. Need we ask why women don't come to resorts or join group like this. Image and first impressions are very important. This is what brings the pervs into quality nudist sites like NCH and reduce their value.
Your thoughts please.
Absolute Naturists arrow Best youth friendly resort?

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 14, 2011

ah, you did... thanks for the less than mature reponse. It is really what I expected from you anyway although I was hoping for a little more openness. You truly sound like the spoiled brats that want everything yet want to give nothing. Cypress and others like it would not even exist if it weren't for your previous generations, the ones you have consistently bagged on. Enjoy them and good luck in the future.
Absolute Naturists arrow Best youth friendly resort?

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 14, 2011

Chris, I have to say when you keep using terms like retirement homes, elderly, geezer rock so forth and so forth... you are not helping your quest. The "elderly" will put a foot in you butt, it will be well deserved and nothing will be changed at the clubs/resorts. I think many of us have been kind to you, we have provided some positive avenues for you to pursue, are supportive and understand your points and your quest eventhough we may be "elderly" in your view so I for one would appreciate a little more courtesy in the future on the words you choose. It is plain disrespectful in my opinion. It is not hard for me to visualize the negative response you may get from the "nudist retirement home residents" when you so freely lead with that type of wording even on here. You will always get further with honey than you will with vinegar. I hope you understand and appreciate this small piece of advice.
Absolute Naturists arrow HELP CORRECT THE M/F RATIO

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 13, 2011

What you have said Andy is true and correct. Kudos to both you and Bee. If this site was ONLY composed of real nudists who "get it" (thanks FireProf) then that would be more likely to work or happen. There are many fakers and horny desparate men on here. In addition there are some men who will not even tell the spouses that they are on NCH, or who put up a fake picture of a woman and pretend to act like a couple. FF, you know what I am talking about. But what the hey... when the Crouch Shots still exist, the show me more pictues still exist, the give me yor email me and lets chat comments still exist and the "Your Hot" comments still exist, why should a different result be expected. There are two topics on Absolute Naturist that even better demonstrate my point. They are Nude in Public = 97 posts/8,228 (and still growing) views -and- Nudist Women =55 posts/6,634 views. I wrote these titles purposefully to see what reaction I would get and guess what, exactly what I figured would happen. The pervs came out of the woodwork. There are many more quality topics and even directly related to positive nudity in this group but without the female based sexually oriented titles those topics get essentially zip. So lets get real about it. Do you think the ratio even has a chance of correction with this garbage going on continually. True there are some of us women who believe and support the cause enough and are strong enough to stand up to the stupidity that prevails but we are few and I think some of us many times really even question why we continue to do it. But that is the reality we women have to deal with. It happens at clubs/resorts AND it happens especially on the internet AND it happens for sure on this site, NCH. Just being real. Truly, while I know you have good intentions Andy, maybe we should do all we can to "Help Correct the Perv/Faker/Boys Locker Room Mentality Problem" on this site first and at least. That is how you can start correcting the M/F ratio. My apoligies and appreciation to those men on here, few that you, that respect women and respect the cause of positive nudism for all. It is not to hard to figure out who you are by the way you post responses. You are the ones that give us women the reason and courage to stay. I don't know what else I can say.
Absolute Naturists arrow Are Clothing Optional Clubs/Resorts Hurting Nudists?

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 9, 2011

It's all good, thanks for the lively discussion. That is what this group is all about.
SB
Absolute Naturists arrow What is an Absolute Naturist?

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 9, 2011

In your mind, what is an Absolute Naturist? Does being an Absolute Naturist have an activist mindset about it? Do Absolute Naturists really desire to live nude full time? Do Absolute Naturists really desire to change society to an acceptance of nude living?
This group is about people who desire to live nude all the time and create communities or areas that would support their desire. Yet I hear the opposite many times from members. If you continually give reasons as to why you can't be nude, continually provide reasons for wanting to include non-nudists in the nudist community, desire to have nude places to go where you can wear clothes, won't lift a finger to promote positive nudity, Why do you consider yourself an Absolute Nudist and why are you here?
Absolute Naturists arrow Best youth friendly resort?

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 9, 2011

Chris, what I tried to communcate earlier was that you should take it upon yourself to get a bunch of your friends together and visit a club of your choosing. Bring your music, games, beverages, whatever and make the place your kind of place. Take your thoughts, ideas and desires to the club owners and let them know what you would like to see and how you can partner with them to make it more ameanable to youth. It will be a win-win. The geezers will undoubtably give you a hard time and talk smack but screw them, go enjoy yourselves. This is how things are changed.
Absolute Naturists arrow Are Clothing Optional Clubs/Resorts Hurting Nudists?

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 9, 2011

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't always make them drink. BJJB, I have to agree with FP, you just don't get it. To continue to try to explain is just not worth it, you are not ready to drink.
FP, I agree that this post has gotten somewhat off track but I do not think restating it will help. All anybody has to do is re-read the initial post at the top, it was very clear. If you want to post your thoughts, please re-read the topic and think about it first. Seems to me that this topic has brought to the surface the real issue as to why it has gotten off track. The same can be applied for many other topics in this group. It is simply because we have the majority of people, not all, claiming to be nudists when they are really not. They don't get the concepy of nude living. They are afraid to leave their homes, they are afraid to tell family and friends that they are nudist, essentially they are afraid to be nudists. The entire premise of this group is about being activists in bringing nudity to the forfront as a positive way of living. If you are going to be an activist, you can not be afraid of taking actions or the consequences of those actions. The majority of people in this group, may well be hurting nudists by expounding on nudism when they don't even get it or live it. They are basking in the light of being a nudist when they are not. This hurts nudism. If you are going to be a nudist, be a nudist... it is that simple.
Absolute Naturists arrow Are Clothing Optional Clubs/Resorts Hurting Nudists?

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 8, 2011

BJ, let's talk about the Big Picture. You are a strong person in your convictions and I respect that. I am as well. It is the examples we set that make our strengths and convictions of value to others, not us. We are mere drops of water in a very large pond, but our ripples spread in many directions. We are viewed as role models to many like it or not and that is a responsibility. When a person looks to us on the acceptance of social nudity, the values or benefits we place in belonging to or going to nudist clubs/resorts, our acceptance of people for who they are and not what their bodies look like... we many times determine their mindsets and future. Again, we are the examples. How we act at a nudist club is an example many will follow. How a nudist club acts will set the examlpe also, they are a role model that will be followed just as we are. If we minimize that we also have minimized our own convictions and beliefs in social nudity. Clubs have minimized their purpose in being a nudist club. That my friend is the Big Picture and the real picture, like it or not. I totally understand that and accept that. I don't cry, I set the example. It is what gives value to everything I do. Why else would I give my time on things like this group. It is my hope that I may in some way have an impact in another persons life or way of thinking. That is true value and essentially priceless. Thta is what I am about. It is not about my ego, someone telling me what to do or not do, requirements, hardcore or not hardcore, or getting my feelings hurt. As I said, I am a strong person and I can deal with all that. I am quite sure you can too. It is all about the Big Picture involved in opening the positive aspects of nude living and nude recreation, overcoming body acceptance issues, allowing our trueselves to be revealed, to not fear others rejection and to live our lives honestly, openly and happily. Are you with me on this, I hope you are. Anybody else have a thought on the Big Picture?
Absolute Naturists arrow Nude Fears

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 8, 2011

abkmlk, thank you for your honest,personal and courageous post. I appreciate it.
Some thoughts... I think it is always sad that people, even in the aged lives, allow others to run their lives and care more about others opinions and feelings rather than their own loving spouses.
In the case of Weiner, in terms of character judgement, was it worse to show pictures of himself in his underwear or to boldy lie about it. Pictures are stupid, lying is morally wrong. Maybe your wife should consider that. You are a good man, an honest man, and that is probably more than can be said about those she fears. Again, thanks for the post.
Absolute Naturists arrow Children Raised As Nudist... Choice?

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 8, 2011

Lux, did you say that we are given the choice to be textiled?
I would aree that most children make their own choice at a point in their life and we should support that. Hopefully being raised in a nudist background has given them a better foundation on the concept that family and social nudity is not a bad thing and there is nothing to have fears about it.
Absolute Naturists arrow Are Clothing Optional Clubs/Resorts Hurting Nudists?

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 8, 2011

...and I for one am glad it won't go away.
Please read the first line fo this topic again. It says " This group is about people who desire to live nude all the time and create communities or areas that would support their desire" yet I keep hearing reasons and excuses to the opposite from group members. I know what my motivation is, do you? Am I missing something in the concept of the group?
I get so tired nudist wannabes or should I say the clothing optional one foot in and one foot out types minimalizing the concept and benefits of social nudity and nude living. Most of these people have more excuses and continually look for excuses and inclusionary rights to not be nude. So if that is the case, why do you insist on bringing the textile mentality to a nudist resort/club. Dump the clothes, get with the program, quit the excuses and the politically correct and inclusive mumbo-jumbo and get real. I choose to belong and go to nudist resorts/club because I am a NUDIST and not afraid to say it or be it. I truly desire to live nude full-time and I am committed to do what I can to make that a reality. I think it adds very positive benefits to my life and I enjoy it. Do clothed people at nudist resorts/clubs bother me... frankly yes, because they are not nudists, don't get nudism, usually expound on the joys of nudism because it is hip to do, and totally infringe on my nude sanctuary in this superficial textile based society. When I ask them why they are clothed, I usually here that it is their right to be clothed or not, it is clothing optional and nudist are supportive of that. WELL PLEASE take your right to the Mall and don't come back until you are ready to enjoy social nudity completely... get it!
Absolute Naturists arrow Children Raised As Nudist... Choice?

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 8, 2011

What about children that are brought up in the nudist lifestyle? Do they ever make a conscious choice to be a nudist, or was this choice made for them by their parents? And the same question applies to children that are brought up in a textile family.
This topic was originally posed as a question (word for word) by member dbo in relation to the other topic regarding the nudist choice. To not confuse the other topic I have posted the question here. Thank you dbo.
SB
NorthWest Outdoor Nudists arrow Black Ties & Heels at LARC

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 8, 2011

The second annual Black Ties & Heels Dinner & Dance is being held at LARC on June 25, 2011. It is a prepaid $10 for a New York or Grilled Salmon complete dinner. It was a fabulous time last year. Great food and great music. I will be there with my black heels on, join me. More details go to LARC websit or ask.
Absolute Naturists arrow National NUDE Donut Day

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 8, 2011

I forgot to post where I got my naked donuts at (always do actually). It is Rocket Donuts in Bellingham, WA. It is the home of GORT... remember the old movie "The Day the Earth Stood Still", yup he is there. It is a really cool retro donut shop. If you ever find yourself in Bellingham, drop in and visit GORT and have a very good naked donut. Check it out at:
http://www.rocketdonuts.com/index.htm
Absolute Naturists arrow The Nude Living Choice

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 8, 2011

Who's responsibility is it to determine if a person wants to live nude or not? Who makes that choice for them? Who lives the responsibility of that choice? Is that choice made before or after a visit to a nudist resort/club? Your thoughts please.
Absolute Naturists arrow Best youth friendly resort?

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 8, 2011

Chris, Why don't you inform us on what "facilities or events for younger people" that you think would help make the "retirement village's more friendly to youth? Maybe you could send a letter or article to the editor of AANR's The Bulletin for publication to let all the clubs know about your ideas. Obviously we don't know. BTW, Do you belong to AANR and do you know what they do?
Absolute Naturists arrow Advertising Social Nudity

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 8, 2011

The original simple and plain question was:
"Would you be willing to place a small advertisement (classified) in you local publication simply directing readers to AANR and TNS?".
So far it sounds like the answer is the answer NO. Why no? Are you just not interested in this type of promotion? Are you afraid of something? Do you not want to spend any of your own money on it? Do you think there is a better way to do this?
Absolute Naturists arrow Are Clothing Optional Clubs/Resorts Hurting Nudists?

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 7, 2011

Capt, Cheers and thank you for the straight up talk.
dbo, IMHO...No!
Again, why do you join a golf club? Because you are a golfer. Why do you join a Tennis Club? Because you are a tennis player. Why do you join nudist club? Need I say more. If you really are one, be one and quit the nonsense.
Absolute Naturists arrow Are Clothing Optional Clubs/Resorts Hurting Nudists?

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 7, 2011

If you go to a tennis club, do you play golf? If you belong to a cigar club, do you smoke cigarettes? If you go to a nudist club, do you wear clothes? It seems to me that nudist clubs are the most forgiving in allowing contrary actions to continually occur... and I think that is hurting nudists. In all my experiences, nude clubs allow time for the newbies to get the drift. This applies to both management and members. They are usually very supportive. But in the end, it is a nudist club and people who want to become members or visit the club should get with the program and be nude. I think clothing optional clubs are allowing the momentum and acceptability for being clothed at nudist clubs, and this is hurting the nudist plight. To me, clothing optional means being clothed when practical, but complete nudity is expected most of the time. It is clothes-tolerant... not nude tolerant.
Fireprof... I agree that the management is a guilty party when they remain dressed and waive fingers. This definitey hurts the nude movement because they are looked at as role models and the examples of behavior at their clubs...it is very contrary and just plain dumb.
Absolute Naturists arrow Best youth friendly resort?

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 7, 2011

Friendly or socially responsive? I think you will find most clubs are friendly to the age groups you stated, the problem is are they really socially responsive to what this age group likes to do for recreation. That was the premise of another thread and the answer was probably not. What are you looking for exactly in this post so we may all respond intelligently?
Absolute Naturists arrow Advertising Social Nudity

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 6, 2011

I probably would have shyed away from Craigslist also, only because it has been used by the not so positive aspects of nudity. As you say... WELL, and as they say in Hollywood, any publicity is good publicity.
What I was originally thinking was something more localized, like a local newspaper or penny ad type publication. Wording like: SOCIAL NUDITY IS A GOOD THING. Learn more at aanr.com -or- ENJOY NATURE NATURALLY. Learn more at TNS.com.
Absolute Naturists arrow Advertising Social Nudity

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 5, 2011

Would you be willing to place a small advertisement (classified) in you local publication simply directing readers to AANR and TNS? What would you say?
We all know and enjoy the pleasures of social and nude living. Let's share it with the world. We can start by a simple introduction such as this. Thanks Labrat for providing the basis of this post.SB
Absolute Naturists arrow Attract A Younger Crowd

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 5, 2011

Wow Labrat, thanks for the very insightful and well thought out post. I like many of the ideas you have. One thing that struck me, in a broader sense was the advertising in regular publications. Yes that is very expensive for one person to undertake... BUT, what if each of us here, just in this group, was willing to spend and place an simple ad (maybe even cheapy classified type) simply directing people to AANR and TNS for starters. It would be interesting to see what would result.
Absolute Naturists arrow National NUDE Donut Day

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 5, 2011

While I agree with Andy on the posted jokes, there are sometimes when we just need to have a laugh about stuff like everyone else. No harm no foul in this instance. I think (hope) we all get what Andy is talking about. Apreciate you thoughts Andy. By the way, I have actually been to Randy's Donuts. Glad you all like the lightheartedness of this topic.
Absolute Naturists arrow Reach out and Tell a Friend

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 5, 2011

Thanks for the very honest post. I think all of us can learn from your approach to "damage control" and how approaching it as yuo have can have positive outcomes. I look forward to hearing more from you in the future.
SB
Absolute Naturists arrow National NUDE Donut Day

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 3, 2011

Yup, those naked donuts sure were good today, up in the Flybridge of our boat, second cup of coffee, naked as a Jaybird, checking out all the boats in the harbor... ah, life is good. Maybe I will try an Apple Fritter next time.
Cheers to having a little nude fun on Nude Donut Day.
Absolute Naturists arrow National NUDE Donut Day

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 2, 2011

UPDATE: June 1, 2012 is declared by me, Sunbunny, as National NUDE Donut Day...again. Let's all eat a donut and have some fun.
***
Original Post
Friday, June 3, 2011 has been declared by your Fearless Leader (me, SunBunny) to be National NUDE Donut Day. So go get a donut(s) and eat it in the Nude. Tell us what kind of donut you had (I think plain cake is a naked donut), did it taste any better while you were nude, what were you thinking about as you were eating that donut, did you invite anybody to eat a donut with you, or- or- or, just tell us whatever comes to your mind about eating donuts nude.
*Actually every year, the first Friday in June is National Donut Day. There is a historical reason for this, it's not just another Hallmark Holiday. Krispy Kreme and Dunkin Donuts will be giving free donuts (see link below). You can read more about it at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/02/national-donut-day-2011-dunkin-donuts_n_870514.html
Absolute Naturists arrow The Ideal Nudist Club/Resort

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 2, 2011

Hoya, you are definitely not an idiot... actually I applaud for having the courage to speak your mind and put forth your thoughts. Please keep it up, you are great addition to this group.
BTW, I like some of your ideas on this subject, thanks!
SB
Absolute Naturists arrow YOUR Nude Quote of the Day

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 1, 2011

Live it or Loose it.
Absolute Naturists arrow Simply Living Nude

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 1, 2011

I think we are all conditioned, trained and forced to wear clothes. It started when we were very young, before we had any say over it. I said in the topic narrative "Living nude begins with overcoming the mindset of the neccesity of clothes, indoors or outdoors". We all have to deal with the textile rules of engagement,that is not what I was talking about... that is a different story and I get what everybody deals with. Even living in a nude resort, you still need to dress to get groceries and stuff.
I do think it is interesting that almost all of you fell back into the "need to because" excuses so quickly without exploring in your heads the reasons why we think we need to wear clothes. I think when you over come the belief that you NEED to wear clothes, you begin to truly realized just how ridiculous they are in any setting. Also, you begin to relieve yourselves of the hangups and fears about social nudity and the ability to talk about the simplicity of nude living becomes easy.
Absolute Naturists arrow The Ideal Nudist Club/Resort

SunBunny

Posted: Jun 1, 2011

Hypothectically speaking, as the owner of your own nudist club/resort, how would you operate it. What rules would you have, what activities, what promotions, what outreach, etc. ... in essence, how or what would you do to make it the ideal club/resort?
Absolute Naturists arrow Simply Living Nude

SunBunny

Posted: May 31, 2011

Living nude begins with overcoming the mindset of the neccesity of clothes, indoors or outdoors. It means simply living nude. "Clothing optional" is one foot in and one foot out. "Where appropriate" is one foot in and one foot out. "Living nude" is living nude. Where is your head at and why?
Nudist Communities Formation arrow Are Nude Community Formations Now Occuring?

SunBunny

Posted: May 25, 2011

Jim,
your answer on Pentanque: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5s9BpxOsOY4

SB
Nude Boating arrow Nude Boating Flag

SunBunny

Posted: May 25, 2011

I agree with FireProf, this symbol is aligned to much with truckers, rednecks, titty bars, nude women, swingers. Wrong message. If the company designed it for you, they don't get the nudist arena. I would not fly it. Again my simple points, don't make it look like a traditional burgee and yacht club encrypted design, make it classy, distinguishable and easy to read from a moving distance, make it simple and clear so anybody knows what it is about be they nudist or textiles. If I was going to do it, this is what I would do: small flag 12x18 swallow tail rectagular (white), 1/2 tail tip border red, Applique/Cut & Stitch lettering in blue, top centered lettering - NUDIST, lower centered lettering - USA. This I would fly and it says it all proudly and distinctly. The reason for the Applique/Cut & Stitch is that it is more durable and resistant to wind, water and fading.
Hoya, Thanks for keeping me in the loop.
SB
Absolute Naturists arrow The Price Of Nude Recreation & Enjoyment

SunBunny

Posted: May 25, 2011

As you all know, I rarely start off a post on topics. I like to hear what you all have to say before putting my 2cents in. But I feel a little more impassioned about this topic so here go's:
Any club will have a cost factor so as to cover the costs of operations. They are businesses. True, Landed nude clubs usually have higher membership fees than Travel (non-landed) because of their overhead costs. Mixed into this is the costs of supporting nude recreation support and protection groups such as AANR. yes... cost cost cost, but what is the value to you. There is really no such thing as a free lunch.
When we structured are "annual" membership fees for our club (NWNBC.org) we wanted to keep that in mind and our overhead costs were minimal in arriving at a figure. Boating is an expensive form of recreation just by itself, but those of us who enjoy it pay the price of admission because it bring personal value to our lives. Anyway, our annual fees including AANR annual fees is $58. Of that, $15 is for club expenses and $43 if for ANNR Annual Membership. Now if I equate that to one or two nice dinners at a nicer resturant (or even McDonalds 10 times a year), membership in our club and AANR is undoubtly cheaper, and for the whole year not just two dinners worth. Did I derive as much pleasure and personal value out of those two dinners, perhaps, but not a years worth. My point is if nude recreation has value to you, you will find it in your budget. If it doesn't you won't.
Absolute Naturists arrow The Price Of Nude Recreation & Enjoyment

SunBunny

Posted: May 25, 2011

What value do you place on nude recreation and personal enjoyment? Nude recreation is a niche market and with that comes a cost. In addition, the priviledge and protections to continue to enjoy this nude personal enjoyment has a cost.
What is it worth to you?
Absolute Naturists arrow Why Join a Nudist Club?

SunBunny

Posted: May 24, 2011

I belong to three clubs, two co and one nudist,I own one of the clubs, I belong to AANR and TNS, I contribute articles and letters to the editor to the AANR Bulletin, I openly talk about social nudity and nude recreation with anybody I meet,so I think I do my fair share to support the clothes free nudist endeavor. Why do I join clubs and do the other stuff I do, because I truly believe social nudity is a positive way to live for everybody and I put my money where my mouth is.
I guess when I posed this topic, this is the type of input I was looking for. This question was meant to be really about self-introspection, hence look in our own backyards before looking in others. It is an attempt to arrive at some answers as to what we can do to insure that social and recreational nudity continues to exist.
Absolute Naturists arrow Why Join a Nudist Club?

SunBunny

Posted: May 24, 2011

Why do we choose or not choose to join a Nudist/CO club?
Many on NCH do not belong to a club or even belong to AANR or TNS. So why are we harping on getting young people involved, providing deep thought solutions and philosophies when there are many of the older generation that are not involved. Seem like we should look at our own backyard first. Tell me what you think, Thanks.
Absolute Naturists arrow Attract A Younger Crowd

SunBunny

Posted: May 24, 2011

First, my thoughts on the word "patience" and the younger generation. I am not sure the word patient is in the mindset of a group that was raised in the era of Internet, Iphones, Social Networks, Texting, and 500+ TV channels. Maybe we need to let that one go. My definition of patience and theirs is very different in time aspects I am sure.
ok, now I am going to go against the grain of bending over backwards to get younger folks involved in organized nudism. Note, I didn't say social nudism, I said organized nudism. I think we all want better things for our kids and grandkids, that is what we all have worked so hard for. But we must never forget that we can't make their lives for them. Yes we "geezers" know and have experienced the joys and freedoms of nudism so naturally we want it for them also. But we can't want it more for them than they want it for themselves. Only they understand what they want, need and enjoy. We will never make them drink out of our same glass. Let it go.
I say let them enjoy what they want as we have done. In some ways it seems like we geezers have gotten caught up in this make happen now mentality sense of urgency when maybe we don't have to. The Clubs/resorts that some of us frequent and enjoy have been there for years. Just look at the ASA days. Many of those pioneers were probably saying the same things about us. I cringe everytime I say something to my grandkids that I remember hearing my grandparents say to me...funny how life has a cycle. I think the clubs/resorts will have the same cycle. We just need to let it evolve naturally.
Absolute Naturists arrow The Nudist Click Moment

SunBunny

Posted: May 22, 2011

I always liked being nude but the magic moment 'Click" was my first visit to Elysium (now closed and long gone) as I was sitting on the gentle slopping lawn late afternoon. It was so peaceful and natural, so removed from the madness and demands of the world, pure and fresh... that is when I woke up to my place in the world and said yes this is how I want my life to be. Mid 70's I think, it has been so long ago but I still remember the moment as if it were yesterday.
Absolute Naturists arrow Favorite Beverages While Nude

SunBunny

Posted: May 22, 2011

Goombay Smash... have a few, sitback, enjoy mahn... it's all good on da islands
Absolute Naturists arrow YOUR Nude Quote of the Day

SunBunny

Posted: May 22, 2011

What is your favorite original nude saying that could/would be YOUR Nude Quote of the Day?
Ponder all the things you say when you are nude and see what you come up with and share. Have fun!
Nude Boating arrow Nude Boating Flag

SunBunny

Posted: May 21, 2011

This is what I was kinda thinking, not a burgee since it is not a yacht club but more of a statement type of flag that all nudists could fly anywhere. They can still be in different shapes. Flag pole at home, somewhere on the boat, but the design has to be easily recognizable and not to complicated with graphics... more like colors and letters. it can come in several sizes maybe like a small one for boat/RV and bigger one for home. AANR and TNS quit offering theirs. I think the demand was not there. Check out Prestige Flag in San Diego, CA - http://www.prestigeflag.com/index.php. They may be able to help in the endeavor. We have a burgee from them, good quality.

ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS DISCUSSION... since this is the Nude Boating NCH group, there may be some of us who have YC burgees flying from a jackstaff or shroud. There is a website that actually identifies most burgees if they are registered. They are tradition in the YC arena. We have one or jackstaff from our YC. I would like to fly one that is not confused with a YC, like those for Happy Hour with a martini glass. This one should maybe just say NUDIST. Like maybe white with red edging with big blue letters. Simple to read and not hiding anything. Let it be a statement of pride as well as information to vistors or passerbys.
Absolute Naturists arrow Preferred Nudist Environments

SunBunny

Posted: May 20, 2011

My Favorite and Most Preferred is where I am at Right Now... on our boat, anchored in a small bay in the San Juan Islands, WA. It is just beautiful and feels so good to feel the sun and air all over the body, completely nude as nature intended. Love it.
Absolute Naturists arrow Nude In Public

SunBunny

Posted: May 19, 2011

We kinda got side tracked on the whole boating thing. Since this is a really good thread in it's original intention, let's get back to Nude in Public stories please...
thanks everybody, SB
Nude Sailing arrow Nudist Boaters in USA

SunBunny

Posted: May 18, 2011

A new way to network with other nudist boaters. I just created a Google Group named Nudist-Naturist Boaters USA specifically for communicating and networking with all nude boaters in the USA. This resulted from discussions we had in the Absolute Naturists NCH Group.
Check it out and tell me what you think. Thanks!
http://groups.google.com/group/NNBUSA
IMPORTANT NOTE:This is not a NCH group, it is just another way to communicate with boaters.
Nude Boating arrow New Nudist-Naturist USA Boaters Group

SunBunny

Posted: May 18, 2011

A new way to network with other nudist boaters. I just created a Google Group named Nudist-Naturist Boaters USA specifically for communicating and networking with all nude boater in the USA. This resulted from discussions we had in the Absolute Naturists NCH Group.
Check it out and tell me what you think. Thanks!
http://groups.google.com/group/NNBUSA

IMPORTANT NOTE: This is not a NCH Group, it is just another way for boaters to communicate.
Absolute Naturists arrow Nude In Public

SunBunny

Posted: May 18, 2011

You are absolutely Correct... You are first, FireProf second... who's next?
Actually because of this discussion, I just created a Google Group named Nudist-Naturist Boaters USA that is open to all intersted folks to join and network. Check it out.
http://groups.google.com/group/NNBUSA

I run several of these groups on Google, we even use one for our club communications soI have quite a bit of experience with it. I just never thought of it before, thanks Hoya. This one is public so it is on Google's directory. Tell everyone you know and lets get the group going. You are going to have to have a google account to join. It's free and you can use any email address you want when you get your google account.
SB
Absolute Naturists arrow Nude In Public

SunBunny

Posted: May 18, 2011

Actually there is one, a fellow based in FL has Yahoo Group name Naked Yacht Club with a very nice burgee, we have one and we paid a bunch for it because of the low volume I guess. However, I am not sure what the status is now since some of the nudist yahoo groups, bareboating for example, have become ultra gay oriented sites. I am trying to get in touch with the group owner via the group. I will post what I find out. We have been thinking about creating a burgee (flag)for our club, but I do like the idea of global nude boater flags better. Let me work on that.
FireProf, I would love to have you as my first customer.
Absolute Naturists arrow Reach out and Tell a Friend

SunBunny

Posted: May 18, 2011

No worries folks.... call me what you want, just don't call me late for the BBQ. Actually I thought Lux was using his Spanglish. Whatever, still here LMAO, doing my small part to change the world.
SB
Absolute Naturists arrow The Nudist Click Moment

SunBunny

Posted: May 18, 2011

What/When was your "Nudist Click" moment when you accepted nudity and the desire to live nude as part of your life?
Absolute Naturists arrow Reach out and Tell a Friend

SunBunny

Posted: May 18, 2011

One more time for me... I was out talking to local boating related businesses about getting discounts for our club members (NWNBC.org) when one of the Yacht Charter owners somewhat arrogantly asked me what is so different about our club than any others in the area... to which I paused, calmly looked him in the eye, smiled and said we are clothing optional and are affiliated with national nudist organizations... they are not. He paused, looked at me and looked at my club business card and said "cool, is this the website where I can find out more information on your club".
Absolute Naturists arrow Nude In Public

SunBunny

Posted: May 18, 2011

Speaking of nude on boats... a couple of years ago we were cruising on our sailboat down the Trincomali Channel in the Canadian Gulf islands. It is traveled by a fair amount of boaters. It was a beautiful day, sun shining, so I laid out nude on the bow with a comfy pillow,my ipod and our comm radio to communicate with the helm. Hubby was at the helm and would let me know if we had any lookylus approaching. He comm'ed me and told me that a very large ship had just turned our way and was approaching... but I had dozed off until I heard the water churning and look over to see a very large Canadian Navy ship, huge white numbers on the side of the huge gray hull, with it's Bridge towering over and with complete view of me completely nude facing them. Hubby was laughing and jested that I had just seen the entire Canadian Navy (they have a small Navy) to which I quickly responded... and they just seen the entire me. Yes,it was a wonderful cruise.
Absolute Naturists arrow NAKED CONVERSATIONS WITH NUDE WOMEN

SunBunny

Posted: May 18, 2011

I have to agree with you Hoya, that was exactly my consternation with this video also... the limited perspective. Yet, it was enough to stir up significant debate here in the group. This is what vids/movies like this are for, to raise our thought processes. For that reason, I like it and I encourage all members to post anything like this. I think it helps us all continue to grow.
Nude Boating arrow New Boating Club in the NW

SunBunny

Posted: May 16, 2011

Sometimes I think hearding cats is easier than gathering nude boaters (or any boaters for that matter). Keep shouting!
Absolute Naturists arrow Bare to Breakers

SunBunny

Posted: May 16, 2011

My opinion... Considering the media picked up on this change (I read it in the Wall Street Journal) it is a Super great thing. It shows that there are really much worse things than just being nude and having fun. I wish I could go this year... it is going to be huge fun.
Absolute Naturists arrow Favorite Topics

SunBunny

Posted: May 16, 2011

Which topic of over the 100 posted on Absolute Naturists is your Favorite. Why? Add to it with a challenge and bring it to the top if you would like.
There have been so many excellent topics posted, and so many excellent response posts submitted, it really seem a shame to let some of them get buried. What do you think.
Absolute Naturists arrow Nude Fears

SunBunny

Posted: May 16, 2011

In my quest to live nude as nature intended,
knowing and understanding that it is not a bad thing, what I fear most is _______________________. (fill in the blank) Please be more global than just saying "being arrested", I think we would all agree on that.

Absolute Naturists arrow Bare to Breakers

SunBunny

Posted: May 15, 2011

Nude - 1 / Drunk - 0.
The Bay to Breakers & Bare2Breakers is this coming weekend (May 22, 2011) in San Francisco celebrating it's 100th Anniversary. In the past the nude contigent Bare2breakers, often got threatened and harassed on nudity issues. This year Nude is Good and Drunk is Not. What do you think about this change?
Absolute Naturists arrow Busy Schedules and Nudity

SunBunny

Posted: May 15, 2011

Hoya,
as Gym put it so eloquently... if you step on toes it is probably because we are barefoot all over. Never worry about that, this group is all about stepping on toes and talking about stuff nobody wants to talk about...Right everybody? Appreciate your input, keep it up.
SB
CA Valley Nudes arrow Any naked hiding spots?

SunBunny

Posted: May 13, 2011

Here are three places from my old times in the CA Central Valley:
1) Millerton Lake: drive to the end of Sky Harbor Road, there is a picnic ground area where you can park your car there. There are trails you can use to walk to further up river. I would lay out nude overlooking the lake river in some of these remote areas. Keep an eye out for snakes.
2) Millerton Lake: If you have a boat, I often basked nude up river just down from the log jam, just anchor in a nook and enjoy; The bass fishing guys never minded at all.
3) Central Coast: I used to get nude between Morro Bay and Cayucos. Near where the old Standard Pier use to be. Sometimes had to cover up briefly if someone walked by but then it was usually a fishing person and they didn't care.

It has been a long time since I have been at any of these places so times may have changed. Check it out before relying on my past good time info.
Nude Boating arrow Where in the world?

SunBunny

Posted: May 13, 2011

Sorry for the drift off subject but to answer Hoya's question: Absolute Naturists is a group here on Nudist Clubhouse. Browse or search groups and you will find us. No URL. Our nude boating club is NWNBC.org. You can always add a note to somebodys profile without being a premium member, try it.
SB
Absolute Naturists arrow Favorite Beverages While Nude

SunBunny

Posted: May 13, 2011

What are some of your favorite beverages to indulge in while you are enjoying your nude time? Have a special recipe/mix to share, please do.
Absolute Naturists arrow Attract A Younger Crowd

SunBunny

Posted: May 12, 2011

Interesting that I was thinking along the same lines of casualness versus clubby. There are some logistics to work out but I think it can be done.

Thanks for the link Skiflydive. A very good article to make you think. There are lots of other good articles on this site that I would definitely recommend reading. Very good perspectives to ponder in many areas of nude life.
Absolute Naturists arrow Busy Schedules and Nudity

SunBunny

Posted: May 12, 2011

How can busy people, no matter what their age, fit nudity into their schedules and lives? Your thoughts please.

BTW- this a milestone, Topic #100... congrats everyone.
Absolute Naturists arrow Attract A Younger Crowd

SunBunny

Posted: May 10, 2011

Visit the Family Nudists group. I did ask? So far, no responses... hmmmm
Why Don't you ask your kids, grandkids, neighbors kids, nudist club member's kids, the coffee house crowd or whoever would be of this age group and tell us what they say, better yet have them get on (join, ugh) NCH and let them tell us old farts what they want.
Family Nudists arrow Teach Your Parents Well

SunBunny

Posted: May 9, 2011

Let's hear from the younger set on what they think about nude living and the current nudist club formats.
Parents, ask your kids what they think and please share if you can. This is the great debate going on now so it would be good to hear the younger generation's ideas and thoughts. Please, we seriously need the input.
Absolute Naturists arrow Attract A Younger Crowd

SunBunny

Posted: May 9, 2011

I think what the last two poster's said is what I was trying to say when I spoke to the "deadwood" (thanks Fireprof) grumpy sleepy fuddy duddys runing the show at clubs. They don't get social networking or gameing as the younger folks don't get sitting around having a drink playing cards or Shuffle board. I have to believe that some younger folks like and appreciate social nudism, look at Vita Nude, so maybe if you "Oldsters" stop treating social nudity as a bad thing in your mindsets and teachings, start telling the "Deadwood" to stand down and go play Shuffle Board and encourage the younger generation to step up and suggest and change things at the many clubs... then MAYBE MAYBE we would begin to accomplish attracting a younger crowd.
Nudist Communities Formation arrow Living Nude 24/7

SunBunny

Posted: May 9, 2011

Intelligent nude is part of living nude 24/7 no matter when you are... unless you are a polar bear or a desert lizard Living nude to me is overcoming the mindset of the neccesity of clothes, indoors or outdoors.
Northwest Nudists arrow So we are starting a small group in Kennewick WA

SunBunny

Posted: May 9, 2011

Build it and they will come. Having just launched our NW boating club (nwnbc.org) we know first hand that it takes someone to step and take the lead if you want to make it happen. Don't be discouraged if it is slow, seems like nudists in our area are still thawing out from the cold wet winter.
Keep moving forward, it will happen!
NW People, put your Uggs on and GO!
Northwest Nudists arrow WA Nudist College Students

SunBunny

Posted: May 9, 2011

Maybe you can reach out a little to some who do have more time... like Vita Nude. Sure the weather in the NW is NOT like Florida but there is a time a place for everything and I know for a fact that local clubs are more than welcoming of the student population. LARC has a booth at the Western WA outdoor event every year. Get a hold of them and maybe you can join them at the booth for a little bit. I think it would really put a younger and more relevant face on things. I would be happy to get you more details IF you are interested.
Absolute Naturists arrow Reach out and Tell a Friend

SunBunny

Posted: May 7, 2011

So Do We!!! LOL! ROL... but on the towel. ok so much for my silliness. Just thought I would get on the so's with two of my favorite people.
By the way FireProf I appreciate your caveat on not hijacking the thread on the personal hygiene. I was contemplating posting it as a Topic but there are just so many varibles that I am not sure what value could be achieved. I will leave it to the group membership to decide. In any event, I think we can fairly correctly imagine what the underwear of some of these textiles who ask such a question probably looks like. oh...TMI and no I really do not want to know more. LOL one more time, it is a good thing.
Absolute Naturists arrow Attract A Younger Crowd

SunBunny

Posted: May 7, 2011

Hey Lux,
thanks for all your posts and congrats on getting out there more and talking to folks. I appreciate that.
ok, Back to the subject. As you may find or experience the more you get involved, the fuddy duddys either live full time, almost full time or at least have homes at many resorts and are just not willing to give it up on weekends so the youngsters can come and play. In essence many take a posture as if they are club owners and have full rights to say what go's on, when quiet times begin and end, appropriate decibel levels for music and music preferences, types of games and activities and so forth. This is where things go astray. So the issue of fee paying is not the guiding rule in many of these cases. Now don't get me wrong, there are a number of older folks that are as hip as any and I think younger people actually enjoy them. Anyway, if club ownership stood up to these fuddy duddys and attempted to balance out activities and standards for their club so that all could equally enjoy as you say... we would not be talking about this. My experience so far is that they won't because fuddy duddys are typically on their Boards and Committees and serve as a substantional and consistent part of the club's income. I have seen it personally and it exists in many of the current model clubs. Am I wrong in this school of thought anybody?
Nude Boating arrow Where in the world?

SunBunny

Posted: May 6, 2011

Hi Hoya,
I guess I quit being amazed how many nude boaters you encounter on the waters... I love it! Our rule is be nude whenever and whereever you can. I keep telling my hubby that maybe we ought to take our boat your way, I would love to cruise that area nude. see us at nwnbc.org
Also invite you to join Absolute Naturists if you are interested in spirited discussions.
SB
Absolute Naturists arrow Attract A Younger Crowd

SunBunny

Posted: May 6, 2011

Commenting on the Quote:
I think the whole life style may dissappear "as we know it" if we don't make efforts to bring new generations in... but that is ok with me. Change is good. Actually lets get real, young folks are not going to join in the current structure, that is why we are talking about it and AANR is having issues with membership. Most of us grew up in a time when public nudity was taboo. The young generation did not and their knowledge base is much broader and more flexible in these formative years than ours ever was.
Most resorts/clubs are now like retiree homes... no fun for young folks and even I sometimes get tired of the old grumpy sleepy fuddy duddys at these clubs. I think we need to get away from the club/resort membership type structure and move to a "Fun Center" structure that embraces social nudity that provides a safe and fun environment with a variety of activities to keep you going. Many say the younger generation are not "joiners" and I say BS to that. They just don't join stuff that is of not direct value to them. They join gyms don't they? Fun Centers could work in my opinion and active fun folks of all ages could enjoy them and would join them. Keep the retirment clubs for the grumpy sleepy fuddy duddys (and you know the ones I am talking about).
Absolute Naturists arrow Reach out and Tell a Friend

SunBunny

Posted: May 6, 2011

Thanks FireProf!
In this case we didn't even know they were boaters but it all worked out fine and even better. Yes, you may encounter someone who freaks but most will at least give you the courtesy of listening. It will be their decision to act or not so understand that and let it be. I drop a pebble in the water and hope one of the many ripples will touch sombody. You just never know where your words will go.
Any other stories out there? Let's hear some.
Absolute Naturists arrow What Can You Do to Promote Positive Naturism?

SunBunny

Posted: May 6, 2011

Perfecto FireProf! Just be honest, be yourself and don't make a big deal out of it, I think we are on the same page in our approach. It seems like the subject of social nudity is not that hidden anymore, most folks get it or are at least curious. Word of mouth is always the best form of advertisement no matter what... so talk about it casually, openly and honestly. You may be surprised in the positive responses you get and MORE So how your own confidence will build in talking about nude living with people.
Absolute Naturists arrow To shave or not to shave

SunBunny

Posted: May 5, 2011

Very cute Andy...I am not sure if I got it right but the Nakedist would view it more as a Homophobic weird type of "dude" thing versus the nudists see it rathers a simple preference thing.
Anyway, yes these types of threads continue, almost exclusively by males with most not adding any educational value, and usually with the same upmanship or exhibitionist tone. I have heard the cries for help... yeah yeah yeah... look it up on the internet, no need to share here.
Dave88, I too wish they would go away... but they will not. I try to look at as a perspective from the non-nudist school of thought or the Nakedist. Sorry folks, I live in nudist environments and we just don't have a pressing need to talk about shaving your balls or who has the longest pubic hair. Time to get on with the real program little shavers.
NorthWest Outdoor Nudists arrow LARC Activities in Mount Vernon

SunBunny

Posted: May 5, 2011

If you have never visited LARC I wold encourage that you put it on your want to do list. Here are some more activities:
Friday - May 20
Meet & Greet / Campfire Wine & Cheese 7:30pm
Movie Night 8:30pm
Saturday - May 21
LARC Beautification Day 9:00am
Victoria Day Karaoke Night 8:00pm
Sunday - May 22
Breakfast 9:00am Build your own Breakfast Burritos
Friday - May 27
Meet & Greet / Campfire Wine & Cheese 7:30pm
Saturday - May 28
Rain Drop Festival Weekend Dance 8:00pm
Absolute Naturists arrow Reach out and Tell a Friend

SunBunny

Posted: May 5, 2011

Recently Jack and I have had many opportunities to talk about our nudist living and clothing-optional activities due to our new boating club, NWNBC. Not just with people we know, because they all know already, but with total stangers. Here is an example. Just the other day we were in Costco looking for a new printer/scanner/yadayada machine. Just before we had gone to the local Office Depot looking at the same printers for price comparisons. While looking at Costco another couple came up and started looking at the same one we were looking at... and they said had just seen us over a Office Depot. As we talked we mentioned that we needed a new printer on our boat for our new club business, the NorthWest Naturist Boating Club, a Clothing-Optional boating club. Their ears perked up with interest, they are boaters as well, we exchanged information, mentioned the AANR and Natursit Society affiliations, and they are interested in joining our club. A very positive response from total strangers.... so there you go.
This is the type of response we have gotten every time... from the nail salon, grocery store, to Costco.
Absolute Naturists arrow Attract A Younger Crowd

SunBunny

Posted: May 5, 2011

"The whole lifestyle will just dissapear unless we attract a younger crowd" said Nicky Hoffman of the Naturist Society.
This was a quote in a recent article in the Monday May 2,2011 edition of The Wall Steet Journal. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703856704576285653184636030.html
What are your thoughts on this statement?
Absolute Naturists arrow Reach out and Tell a Friend

SunBunny

Posted: May 4, 2011

Start out the Nude Season right and tell a