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nakedtao

Posted: Jun 10, 2008

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I've started this group as a place for nudists and naturists with progressive or liberal political leanings to come and talk about politics, especially politics and its effects on nudism. So, let's talk naked politics!

Red

Posted: Jun 26, 2008

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"You know I was thinking all this excitement about nudist with the shape the country is in don't you think they would have more important things to worry about than us running around naked ??"

It's a media diversion. If you give America something tasty, they won't want to look at any big issue news, then they would have to think. Now everybody waits for CNN so they can find out what there opinion is supposed to be. Why else would Entertainment News be at the top of every report? Another example, 97,000,000 viewers voted for the American Idol. Barely a fraction of people who will vote for the next President. Diversions

DennisC_VA

Posted: Jul 25, 2008

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Politics are more complicated and time consuming than the average "game playing consumer" has the patience to tolerate. Seriously! Look at the games we play:

Poker: A little complicated but easy to follow and somewhat predictable once you know the core rules.

Video games: Scripted. Some variation on re-play but mostly predictable, easily understood rules, a clear set of action-options and a well defined pay-off at the end.

Scrabble: Limited sets of letters for each player, mostly requiring patience and a little creative thinking.

Stock market: Buy in and hold on! Watch the numbers go UP and DOWN, UP, and DOWN.

But politics... worse than a Dungeons and Dragons run by a clinically insane Dungeon Master with players that get up and shift seats randomly throughout the evening!

The main "characters" give out information on themselves and position opinions in the smallest doses and with the least details possible. Sometimes they change allegiances (parties) or simply drop out of the battle (campaign) when it gets too expensive, and it is also really unclear what the objectives of each side are all the way up to the last 10% or 5% of the "war".

That's one opinion anyway, but I can't stand to write about it anymore at this point. I am bored with the whole thing and cannot believe how little ACTUAL progress we are making at improving the way society is governed, votes taken and the collective money spent!

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DennisC_VA

Posted: Jul 25, 2008

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I just read the Wikipedia.org entry on "progressivism" and found much of it agreeable. I definitely need more information on what the contemporary objectives of progressive politics would be before deciding if that is where I fit.

nakedtao

Posted: Jul 26, 2008

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Fair enough. One of our Canadian group members keenly pointed out how the group is called "Progressive Nudists" and not "Liberal Nudists." I think this has to do with the fact that the term "liberal" has been demonized in the US since at least the Reagan years, so liberals are forced to use the term "progressive" to describe their politics.

I feel that nudists are socially more liberal than the mainstream, so Libertarians are more than welcome in the mix (libertarianism is best described as being socially liberal and economically conservative).

nakedtao

Posted: Jul 26, 2008

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As for the notion that politics is considered too time-consuming to those who would rather play games, you're absolutely right. Politics itself is like a game - one that directly or indirectly affects the ways that you and I live day-to-day. And political campaigns are especially time-and-money-consuming - and I should know, having myself run for my city council (and lost by almost 800 votes). I do wish more people would pay attention to politics and get involved.
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